Armed Police Batrider - yay or nay...?

RoninBuddha · Post by **RoninBuddha** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:46 pm

"omg, so colorful bullets, shoot! shoot!

WTF?!! where did that bullet come from?!

whhaa. i cant see!"

my usual reactions.

still i LOVE this game...

Psychic peopls ftw!

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:29 am

I mostly die not from any major enemy but because of those annoying little sniper dudes that run around on the ground.

Gungriffon Geona · Post by **Gungriffon Geona** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:15 am

I can see the bullets all the time, it's just some of the ships are really hard to control because they move rediculously fast. That's not to say I don't like it. I love the game, it's just some of the ships aren't to my playstyle.

gunbird18 · Post by **gunbird18** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:19 am

Asking a Raizing fanboy (like myself) if you should get Batrider is like asking my 3 year old daughter if she would like to watch Dragon Tales for the 10th time that day.

Response: "Yes, of course, why do you ask such a silly question, Daddy? It is the greatest cartoon I have seen or ever will see!"

But I agree with BM. Try in MAME, if possible, before you buy. Make sure it is what you are looking for in a shmup and then if you likey, then whip out the credit card and charge away. You will not regret it. I have played this silly old game time and time again, when I could easily pop in DDP:DOJ, Galuda, or Ibara, for some serious action. You will never see another shmup like Batrider, that is guaranteed!

Oh.....

, so I guess I could have just said yay!

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:51 am

Surprised to see someone bash Bakraid over graphics - it may have fewer visual effects than most of their games, but damn - it's absolutely crystal clear with what's going on.

Cigs is right, you're Wrong about Batrider (OMG Heretic!!11) so I shouldn't say, but I remember someone mentioning in the past that Bakraid's bullets become *literally* invisible at points due to hardware limitations...even with the generous amount of extends that's pretty weak.

But I don't know how often, etc. hopefully the original poster will see this topic.

roker · Post by **roker** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:22 am

Icarus wrote: and Garegga is the original, the one for lunatics. ^_-

I'll probably never 1cc this game

but that doesn't stop me from putting in a few hours a week on it

it's endlessly addicting

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:39 am

Gungriffon Geona wrote:I can see the bullets all the time, it's just some of the ships are really hard to control because they move rediculously fast. That's not to say I don't like it. I love the game, it's just some of the ships aren't to my playstyle.

That`s why there are so many of them to choose from. I usually select a single ship because I want to get used to it - some are extremely fast as Miyamoto or that...blonde....sunglasses whatever dude (the one next to strawman I suppose) but others can be REALLY slow but have huge, screen clearing weapons. I suppose using a slow ship will get you in a lot of trouble later on since you will have to lure all those aimed shots to have a remot chance of surviving

.And then again, you can always select them with pressing C, so the weapons and the options get powered up and the ship slows down a little. I found many of them too fast too but now that I got used to it I don`t wanna play shmups with slow ships anymore.

Soldato J · Post by **Soldato J** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:52 pm

FrederikJurk wrote:
Soldato J wrote:
Plus in Garegga you can nuke flamingos = teh WIN

But seriously, a resounding chime-in for Batrider--I love it
You bomb flamingoes in Batrider too, don`t you know? Level 1, destroying the shed before you tip over the huge sign. That´s actually another thing I like about Batrider - it`s self-references, Black Heart, Bashinet and all those other freaks. Not that I ever played Mahou or something but I still like that "all-stars" setup.

EH?!? HORY crap, I do not remember ever seeing that! Methinks I have a weekend project now...thanks for the tip

PINK BIRDS WILL BURN!!!!!!!!!

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:14 pm

Okay, just remember to destroy the house behind the big sign AND THEN tip over the big sign, it will then fall on the house and birds will come out. Quite hectic to time it right and not being killed by those nasty flying snipers.

Soldato J · Post by **Soldato J** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:19 pm

FrederikJurk wrote:Okay, just remember to destroy the house behind the big sign AND THEN tip over the big sign, it will then fall on the house and birds will come out. Quite hectic to time it right and not being killed by those nasty flying snipers.

[shudders with gleeful anticipation] I can hardly wait!! Will I get a wonderful point roll for nuking them with the Snail?

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:23 pm

WELCOME TO VIOLENT CITY

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:44 pm

Neon wrote:I remember someone mentioning in the past that Bakraid's bullets become *literally* invisible at points due to hardware limitations...

Offhand I can't recall ever having that sort of thing happen, at least when playing on MAME...even if it does happen, it's at least the fault of the hardware and not sadistic designers who you can almost hear shouting a Chipp Zanuff-esque "Find-uh-me!" in your ear as you play.

Bishamon · Post by **Bishamon** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:50 pm

Yay.

Just yay.

cigsthecat · Post by **cigsthecat** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:50 pm

FrederikJurk wrote:Okay, just remember to destroy the house behind the big sign AND THEN tip over the big sign, it will then fall on the house and birds will come out. Quite hectic to time it right and not being killed by those nasty flying snipers.

Just to clarify, you don't bomb the birds. Destroy the building first, then the sign and the birds come out. Then you just shoot them.

Destroying the building and sign with the aura instead of the shot gets you more points as well.

Acid King · Post by **Acid King** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:09 pm

BulletMagnet wrote:
Neon wrote:I remember someone mentioning in the past that Bakraid's bullets become *literally* invisible at points due to hardware limitations...
Offhand I can't recall ever having that sort of thing happen, at least when playing on MAME...even if it does happen, it's at least the fault of the hardware and not sadistic designers who you can almost hear shouting a Chipp Zanuff-esque "Find-uh-me!" in your ear as you play.

The bullets don't go invisible in mame. I played the ROM quite a bit before I bought the board and was surprised when it happened. To my knowledge (since I've never played completely through the advanced course), it only happens twice; once after blowing up the first form of the water levels boss and on the big tank at the end of the railroad stage.

Odd that this topic would appear. I'm going to get another board and Batrider is the one I'm leaning towards due to it being a pretty sweet game and being fairly cheap.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:15 pm

Soldato J wrote: [shudders with gleeful anticipation] I can hardly wait!! Will I get a wonderful point roll for nuking them with the Snail?

Ah, well... you don`t get as much point as bombing the stuff at the very beginning of the stage and the underground subway shortly after. It certainly isn`t as crucial as in Garegga I am afraid. Either way you can still bomb the birds but your bomb stock will be empty since the aforementioned bombing spots. In a replay Icarus picked up many little fragments from the cars after the shed and bombed them with it in short bursts; I am not so much into the game to tell much difference here.

Soldato J · Post by **Soldato J** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:18 pm

FrederikJurk wrote:
Soldato J wrote: [shudders with gleeful anticipation] I can hardly wait!! Will I get a wonderful point roll for nuking them with the Snail?
Ah, well... you don`t get as much point as bombing the ...stuff at the very beginning of the stage and the underground subway shortly after. It certainly isn`t as crucial as in Garegga I am afraid. Either way you can still bomb the birds but your bomb stock will be empty since the aforementioned bombing spots. In a replay Icarus picked up many little fragments from the cars after the shed and bombed them with it in short bursts; I am not so much into the game to tell much difference here.

I will save all my sheckels (read:bomb fragments) for the glorious nuking I plan on giving those birds. Just for old times sake, you understand (I am NOT sick!)

Post by **Icarus** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:18 pm

JOIN THE HI-SCORE THREAD
JOIN THE STRATEGY DISCUSSION
STOP FAFFING AROUND IN THIS THREAD AND GO DO IT

cigsthecat · Post by **cigsthecat** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:45 pm

LEAVE ME ALONE I PLAY FOR FUN

Post by **Shatterhand** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:17 pm

Batrider is great, it's my fav raizing game by far.

And I prefer playing it just for fun indeed... when I found out the game had so many secret ways to score, I begun to get annoyed by the game.

Only recently I found out the game starts at max ranking, it means I probably always played the game at max ranking, as I just started it out in Mame (Or Raine a few years ago) and played the game..

Still I managed to 1CC the game a few times in NORMAL mode. I actually managed to 1CC the game playing on Raine, without sound, running at like 15 frames per second, and probably max ranking

How do I make rank goes down? Could I start up the game, press F10 in Mame to speed up emulation and just wait a few minutes?

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:19 pm

I LIKE TO BLOW STUFF UP. BTW HOW DO YOU SCORE?

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:32 pm

WHAT IS RANK!
BTW I DONT LIKE IT!

Post by **Icarus** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:43 pm

CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:54 pm

Icarus wrote:JOIN THE HI-SCORE THREAD
JOIN THE STRATEGY DISCUSSION
STOP FAFFING AROUND IN THIS THREAD AND GO DO IT

Man, its okay, I am not deaf! Eh, I mean: blind.

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:02 pm

deaf

on topic: YAY

freddiebamboo · Post by **freddiebamboo** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:04 pm

NAY

MAME EMULATION RUINS THE GAME

TOTALLY UNPLAYABLE

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:10 pm

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:07 pm

freddiebamboo wrote:NAY

MAME EMULATION RUINS THE GAME

TOTALLY UNPLAYABLE

IBTN.

freddiebamboo · Post by **freddiebamboo** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:12 pm

Sorry Fred, was being sarcastic

Some people on this forum have said similar words with feeling though...

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:41 pm

I was having additional input lag problems with my mame setup at the time without realizing it, so I wasn't quite exaggerating, for my case...it was pretty bad, although people managed to 1cc Batrider and Garegga. I haven't tried the newer mame builds which according to the changelogs have improved on it.