Mushihime-sama

[EOJ]

Nice score Twe.... why don't you try to play without Rapid/Hack shot?!?

Because it's less painful for my hands when I use rapid fire. I'm sure I'll do a no-rapid fire ALL pretty soon though. But the game is more fun for me now with rapid fire (the main reason I use it is actually for the C and A+ power shot, which just hurts my hands too much to do by myself for long periods of time). There are many parts of the game where I still have to tap the buttons myself (rapid fire is of no use), for example many parts of S3, the S5 midboss, and parts of Stage 4.

40milions in the second stage is a good score; what tipe of option do you use?!?formation or trace?!?

I use trace through the whole level (though formation would work just as well up until the midboss), I get a 110~120,000 counter after the midboss. My best is 45 or 50 mil, iirc.

[kotaro]

I used the formation for the second mid boss..I do it as the player in the dvd do..but I can reach only 80.xxx of counter, but destroing the bouns enemies after the mid I can reach 58milions at the end of the stage..I think that 45 millions in this stage is a good score cause the you start to improved your score in the Thirs stage; im my last run I did 223milion in the 3°stage..

[EOJ]

Yeah, I can do the DVD 'formation' method on the midboss too, but I prefer the trace method. It's easier for the second part of the stage to have trace than formation. I often end stage 2 with a 130,000+ counter.

223 mil on stage 3 is great! I am currently using the trace option pattern (based on the Japanese player SIN's pattern), but I can do the first half of the DVD player's strat as well (I just have a low success rate with that).
I plan to practice and refine Stage 3 and stage 5 the most, as that's where most of the points are in this game. Anyway I've only been playing Maniac mode for about 2 weeks now (well, I played it last year when it came out for a week or two, but that was in YOKO and it was near impossible to play), so I still have lots of room for improvement.

[GaijinPunch]

I can't seem to do so well with Trace on the 3rd stage. W/ Formation, like on the DVD, I can get the counter up pretty high. 40,000 by the time I destroy the right arm... but I usually die after that. Getting better though.

Has anyone seen the new vids on Super Play? Is he using rapid fire? Looks like for the 4th stage midboss he is. He gets super close and holds down C, and easily gets 100,000 on the counter. Best I can do is the same method from the bottom, and up to MAYBE 80,000.

[kotaro]

In the Super-play vids the player use a rapid fire in my opinion....in the 4°srage mid boss I can reach 145.xxx counter, going near the head of the mid tapping C very fast.To get an Higher counter on this mid you have to tap A since the appearing of the mid and than go in front of it tapping C;your counter going up very well...in the 3°stage I think that the formation is better than the trace..It allowed the player to imrproved the laser counter putting the last righ trace of the formation in the body without damege too much the monster....like un the insanity dvd....but I can reach only 65xxx of counter...damn..

[GaijinPunch]

So w/o rapid fire hacks, you get a higher counter by increasing the child counters, and then tapping A and not C on his 2nd wave of attacks (where you stay in the middle and go up and down).

[EOJ]

So w/o rapid fire hacks, you get a higher counter by increasing the child counters, and then tapping A and not C on his 2nd wave of attacks (where you stay in the middle and go up and down).

No, you have to tap A slowly (2-3 times a second) until the part where you go up and down in the middle close to its mouth-- you need to tap C as fast as you can there.

[EOJ]

in the 3°stage I think that the formation is better than the trace..It allowed the player to imrproved the laser counter putting the last righ trace of the formation in the body without damege too much the monster....like un the insanity dvd....but I can reach only 65xxx of counter...damn..

Well, using trace I can get 60,000 after the right arm, and I peak at about 70,000 after the left arm. I think it's much easier than the formation method.

[kotaro]

@GaijinPunch: exactly you have to improved (with/without HackFire) first, the child counter named "laser counter" with tapping A in the right way, with a correct frequence;then starting to tap C furiously you create what in the dvd the called "reset counter"(maybe you know japanase as me?!?!) and your total cunter start to go up and up...in the 4°nid boss you must go near the mouth tapping C....I do this mid-boss as in the dvd..this is the best way I've ever seen, also in JApan all player use this way..

[GaijinPunch]

Yeah, thought that was the best way, but watching this recent replay, he really got the counter up high. Was wondering if it was a hack, or I was doing something wrong.,

I might need to switch to the trace method for stage 3. One thing though... i keep dying on stuid bullshit. Until I do that, everything else means nothing.

[EOJ]

I might need to switch to the trace method for stage 3. One thing though... i keep dying on stuid bullshit. Until I do that, everything else means nothing.

Do you have SIN's vid? After a bit of practice, it's not too hard to emulate his pattern.

[GaijinPunch]

I've got a really old 1CC video, which isn't much of a score. I assume it's not SIN's. I've got the DVD of course, and the new one that just showed up on super-play.co.uk.

[EOJ]

I've got a really old 1CC video, which isn't much of a score. I assume it's not SIN's. I've got the DVD of course, and the new one that just showed up on super-play.co.uk.

The new one (by COR) is a very safe but not great 'trace' replay. He gets about 155 mil. SIN gets 203 mil in his 'trace' pattern. I've gotten has high as 175mil (just this morning!), but once I refine the end of the pattern, it should be close to 200 mil.

[GaijinPunch]

W/ the formation, I'm pertty good about raising the counter by 30,000 on the right arm, and another 5-10,000 before the screen starts to scroll left. The formation trick is rather hard though.

My 2nd level needs some help as well. I rather suck.

[EOJ]

Okay everyone, I am going on vacation from tomorrow until June 29th,
and I will not be online during that time. So any scores you post from now until June 29th will not be updated until June 29/30.

Thanks.

[kotaro]

@GaijinPunch: the most important thing you've to learn about the econd stage to improved your score is the NanaBushi leaching...you've to put reko on a nanabushi hitting it using Hold C tapping A harder to increase the child counter and than tapping C to improved total counter....I used to get a 6.5xx of total counter before start to tap C, on the first NanaBushi..in this I can reach 19.xxx-20.xxx of total counter...but is quite diffucult because you have to stay in the middle of the enemies fire without seing your hitbox..If you see the dvd you can learn more about it..I normally use the trace till the mid then I change into formation to cath all the enemies bonus after the mid---

[Ex_Mosquito]

Done on my mates cab. Not enough to go up a place on the scoreboard, but now it should be harder for me to be pushed off at least.

40,790,080 - Ex_Mosquito - ALL (Lx3) - PCB

Proof:- http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mark9/Mushi.jpg

[GaijinPunch]

Yaeh, I know about the counter raising on those things. The problem is I get killed most of the time, so for now, I'm trying a slightly more timid approach.

[Neverland]

Good Score Mosquito!
do you want try to realize a 1cc no miss?

[LUNardei]

Yaeh, I know about the counter raising on those things. The problem is I get killed most of the time, so for now, I'm trying a slightly more timid approach.

Actually if you use the old strat on the scorpion start from 0 or 30.000 seems the same thing. The counter of when you begin the scorpion seems really helpful only with the new formation (and default fire) strat!
This means that if you use the old strat you can be timid with the nanabushbzz (weird name...) and lose only a few million.

[Ex_Mosquito]

Thanks heh I may do. I only really get to play mushi over my mates house on his cab. The 2 lives I lost were due to sloppy play. I unfairly lost the first on one of the big tree thingys on stage 5 and the second I was snippered by a popcorn bug on the ground from behind, was totally unfair!

[GaijinPunch]

Actually if you use the old strat on the scorpion start from 0 or 30.000 seems the same thing. The counter of when you begin the scorpion seems really helpful only with the new formation (and default fire) strat!
This means that if you use the old strat you can be timid with the nanabushbzz (weird name...) and lose only a few million.

I assume the old strat is just using trace, and holding C, not killing the mid-boss, and the new one is using C+A-renda , and killing the mid-boss? I seem to do much better w/ the latter, although I only gain about 30,000 on the counter, at best.

I"m also finding the formation method on stage 3 better for me. If I die, it's easier to jack up the counter w/ the formation, as you can get the child counter to several hundred on the right arm.

[LUNardei]

I assume the old strat is just using trace, and holding C, not killing the mid-boss, and the new one is using C+A-renda , and killing the mid-boss?

Precisely!

I seem to do much better w/ the latter, although I only gain about 30,000 on the counter, at best.

It's a bit low. The new strat (as said before) seems to need a huge nanabushskyrocket before the scorpion to work well. I suggest you to try again the old one

I"m also finding the formation method on stage 3 better for me. If I die, it's easier to jack up the counter w/ the formation, as you can get the child counter to several hundred on the right arm.

Uhm, I need to stick again on maniac to try better all the new stuff. But not now

[GaijinPunch]

It's a bit low. The new strat (as said before) seems to need a huge nanabushskyrocket before the scorpion to work well. I suggest you to try again the old one

Well, assuming I don't die before the mid-boss (I'm still not very stable) I can get it to about 20,000 before him, then about 50,000 when I kill him. It drops about 3,000 or so, but I get it back to 50,000 quickly, and eventually over 60,000. That's ideal. If I use the old method, I get fewer points, and at best, an equal counter.

[LUNardei]

Ah, ok, gotcha. That 30K was before the scorpion at best. I thought it was after, sorry

[EOJ]

I assume the old strat is just using trace, and holding C, not killing the mid-boss, and the new one is using C+A-renda , and killing the mid-boss? I seem to do much better w/ the latter, although I only gain about 30,000 on the counter, at best.

No, the trace method does not involve holding C at any time. You should start this midboss fight (like with every midboss) by slow tapping A (2-4 times a second) to jack up the main counter. Keep doing this then fast tap C when your laser counters are 600+ (I usually start at 7-800+). I use trace, come into the fight with about 25K, after slow A tapping I have nearly 50K (usually 45-47K), then after rapid C tapping I can get 80K+. This is all without rapid fire, and really isn't that hard to do. With rapid fire I can get 120K+.

I'm on vacation (currently in Tainan, Taiwan), but couldn't help myself from responding to this!

[kotaro]

Another little improvment for my score....I'm learnig how to improved my counter against the 5° stage'e mid boss...in this run I reached only 110.xxx but I can do much better I think...^_^





AST-KOT-350.433.600 WPower DefaultFire 5°Stage Maniac Mode

I think I can reach 400milions....

[GaijinPunch]

The stage 5 midboss is a bitch. I try to do the trick where you stay on the side, but it won't work on the left side for me, as my monitor cuts off about 10 pixels. I do pretty good until all that other shit appears and then I die.

Getting a bit better w/ the 2nd stage midboss, although I will admit, I've never gotten more points on the stage, w/ the trace method. You forfeit several million by not killing the midboss quickly.

Also doing trace on stage 3. My score suffers a bit, but it is a much safer method.

[kotaro]

I also used the tattic of stay on the side tapping C but is quiete difficult...MY problem is that I can't reach a higher counter cause I damaged the mid-boss too much while I'am incresing my child counter as usually do...
If you use the formation against the mid of the second stage you can kill it very fast and then you can do a lot of points killing the enemies bonus I think..I do it in this way.....I'm studing a different way in the stage 3 to improved my counter in the right part of the body, but I learn to arrive against it with 36.xxxK, so the counter go up very fast when you start tapping C...

[GaijinPunch]

I think stage 3 trace method is save, and easy to get a 50-60,000 counter after left arm, w/ very little effort. However, if you die, there is no "comeback". For formation, you can easily jack the child counter up on the right arm and get "back in the game".

For stage 5 midboss, I tried by not starting to fire until his second wave of bullets. I died though.