Was this a good find?

jpolz · Post by **jpolz** » Mon May 15, 2006 11:33 am

So I was browsing around the local Game Stop and way in the back I found that they had a sealed Tekken 5/HORI Stick package for $69. Needless to say I had been looking for a good stick for SHMUPing so I grabbed it.

I really like the stick and from what I've seen on eBay & PlayAsia, $69 for the game & the stick was a good deal.

Also, what the hell is going on with Rez?? Up until last week, I never saw any copies lying around, now all the local game shops have at least one and are selling it for $40???

Arznei · Post by **Arznei** » Mon May 15, 2006 11:47 am

I bet you my life that those Rez copies are remakes by gamedirectexpo. They're doing that to all rare games which really sucks.

I wouldn't say this was a good deal, considering you can purchase a HRAP from play-asia for $10 more, and Tekken 5 is $15 on special at play-asia right now (and we all know you bought it for the stick, and not the game).

jpolz · Post by **jpolz** » Mon May 15, 2006 11:59 am

What are the main differences between the Tekken 5 stick and the HRAP?

Post by **system11** » Mon May 15, 2006 12:12 pm

Arznei wrote:They're doing that to all rare games which really sucks.

I'm having trouble imagining a world where this is a bad thing.

jpolz · Post by **jpolz** » Mon May 15, 2006 12:17 pm

bloodflowers wrote:
Arznei wrote:They're doing that to all rare games which really sucks.
I'm having trouble imagining a world where this is a bad thing.

It's only bad if you own an original pressing and you were planning on trying to sell it for an outrageous sum of money in the future.

Somebody should re-release Radiant Silvergun just to piss off the eBay collectors.

Arznei · Post by **Arznei** » Mon May 15, 2006 12:55 pm

jpolz wrote:
bloodflowers wrote:
Arznei wrote:They're doing that to all rare games which really sucks.
I'm having trouble imagining a world where this is a bad thing.
It's only bad if you own an original pressing and you were planning on trying to sell it for an outrageous sum of money in the future.

Somebody should re-release Radiant Silvergun just to piss off the eBay collectors.

Yeah, exactly. Imagine if they started releasing old SNES games in their full glory again. Or even original PS1 games. Some of them are almost impossible to find these days, and for the people that do own them the last thing they want is companies ruining their collection's value by rereleasing games just for more publicity.

Post by **Ghegs** » Mon May 15, 2006 1:07 pm

Arznei wrote:Yeah, exactly. Imagine if they started releasing old SNES games in their full glory again. Or even original PS1 games. Some of them are almost impossible to find these days, and for the people that do own them the last thing they want is companies ruining their collection's value by rereleasing games just for more publicity.

We've been over this.

benj · Post by **benj** » Mon May 15, 2006 1:08 pm

This may sound strange to you, but there are actually people who don't buy games just to resell them. Why should I care if the value of a game I own drops? I hardly sell any game, because I bought them to play them. Collectors don't sell games because they want to put them on a shelf or whatever. The only people who suffer are jerkwads who hoard rare games to make a profit.

Post by **Ghegs** » Mon May 15, 2006 1:11 pm

Moved to off-topic.

And I agree with bloodflowers and benj.

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Mon May 15, 2006 1:24 pm

Imagine if they started releasing old SNES games in their full glory again. Or even original PS1 games.

That would fucking rule. Lower prices and better selection.

howmuchkeefe · Post by **howmuchkeefe** » Mon May 15, 2006 2:24 pm

Buy the rights. Then, you can put all those hoarded, unenjoyed games in a big pile in your cave and sleep on them when you aren't flying about the countryside setting fire to peasants.

Ceph · Post by **Ceph** » Mon May 15, 2006 3:30 pm

I dont want to start this anew, so let me just say this:

Reprints = Good but Indistinguishable Reprints = Bad

Asking for indistinguishable reprints is pretty much an indication of flawed character; because it's either envy "I want it too, I just can't (don't want to) afford it" or schadenfreude "just to piss off collectors". Someone who really only cares about gameplay doesn't mind cheaper "best of"/"platinum" versions.

DC906270 · Post by **DC906270** » Mon May 15, 2006 4:12 pm

i think its good to re-release rare games, so long as they dont re-release the expensive games i own, like Radiant Silvergun, without giving plenty advance warning so i can re-sell my copy for what i paid, otherwise i could lose a shit load of money

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Mon May 15, 2006 4:29 pm

jpolz wrote:So I was browsing around the local Game Stop and way in the back I found that they had a sealed Tekken 5/HORI Stick package for $69. Needless to say I had been looking for a good stick for SHMUPing so I grabbed it.

I really like the stick and from what I've seen on eBay & PlayAsia, $69 for the game & the stick was a good deal.

$69 for Game + Stick seems a very good deal. The lowest price I have seen in local game store for a Hori Street Fighter Jam is $60.

Simular to the Hori Tekken 5 Stick, the Street Fighter Jam uses the case of a RAP and mounted Sanwa Joystick, in additional it also got hardware auto fire.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Mon May 15, 2006 4:31 pm

Good deal? Decent, but it's bested: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=8594

SAM: The CFJ stick is a real RAP (although buttons are soldered in). The US T5 Hori stick is NOT a RAP so it doesn't have the Sanwa stick, turbo switches, better quality, etc. (nor does the stick ever mention itself as a RAP anyway). However, the JP T5 Hori stick is a RAP with all the standard RAP features.

jpolz · Post by **jpolz** » Mon May 15, 2006 4:41 pm

Ganelon wrote:Good deal? Decent, but it's bested: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=8594

SAM: The CFJ stick is a real RAP (although buttons are soldered in). The US T5 Hori stick is NOT a RAP so it doesn't have the Sanwa stick, turbo switches, better quality, etc. (nor does the stick ever mention itself as a RAP anyway). However, the JP T5 Hori stick is a RAP with all the standard RAP features.

I assume that the stick & buttons can be swapped out for upgraded components shoudl the need arise?

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Mon May 15, 2006 4:44 pm

Ganelon wrote:SAM: The CFJ stick is a real RAP (although buttons are soldered in). The US T5 Hori stick is NOT a RAP so it doesn't have the Sanwa stick, turbo switches, better quality, etc. (nor does the stick ever mention itself as a RAP anyway). However, the JP T5 Hori stick is a RAP with all the standard RAP features.

Oh, I see.

I have confused with the JP T5 Hori stick I got.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Mon May 15, 2006 6:23 pm

jpolz wrote: I assume that the stick & buttons can be swapped out for upgraded components shoudl the need arise?

Sure, but the buttons will need soldering rather than a quick swap.

jpolz · Post by **jpolz** » Mon May 15, 2006 6:26 pm

Ganelon wrote:
jpolz wrote: I assume that the stick & buttons can be swapped out for upgraded components shoudl the need arise?
Sure, but the buttons will need soldering rather than a quick swap.

Good enough.

Arznei · Post by **Arznei** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:08 am

benj wrote:This may sound strange to you, but there are actually people who don't buy games just to resell them. Why should I care if the value of a game I own drops? I hardly sell any game, because I bought them to play them. Collectors don't sell games because they want to put them on a shelf or whatever. The only people who suffer are jerkwads who hoard rare games to make a profit.

I don't buy games to resell them either. But I also don't want my collection of games to decrease in value over time. It should be the other way around. I'm not even that much of a collector.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Mon May 22, 2006 8:54 am

What a load of bollocks.

Basically if you bought the game at $50 and its worth $150 now.. if it gets re-released and lessens the value, you were a plonk not to sell it at $150. If you kept it and moan about it, thats just stupid.

If you have games that are worth more than their origonal release price. Sell them now and stop moaning.

You either want the game, or you want the profit. Take which ever.

About the joystick, its still $100 at my local. and the shelf is stocked to the brim with them, so I guess they didnt sell any yet. It does include the game though.

I'm gonna get the HRAP eventually, I don't like game graphics on my sticks.

Twiddle · Post by **Twiddle** » Mon May 22, 2006 10:08 am

bloodflowers wrote:
Arznei wrote:They're doing that to all rare games which really sucks.
I'm having trouble imagining a world where this is a bad thing.

the world of those who frequent the atari-age forums and similar people who also invest in butter stocks

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