Raiden III Comes to PC! Release 3-17-06!

LRa · Post by **LRa** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:40 am

elvis wrote:
Frogacuda wrote:
Kaspal wrote:yes, it does work on any WinXP version... but just in case, you must have the japanese compatibility mode on... it wrked for me right away... and the damn game its pretty SWEET!.
How do you turn the japanese compatibility mode on?
Under WinXP:
Control Panel -> Regional and Language Options

From there, add support for East Asian languages. You'll need your WinXP CD to do so.

It's not obligatory.

BTW, can you use the joystick instead of the keyboard? I tried with no success.

PooshhMao · Post by **PooshhMao** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:19 am

Yes, run the included config.exe utility. Experiment a bit, I have dual joypads working here perfectly.

It's a *very* slick conversion, better than perfect I'd say, and plenty of fun too - but I feel that quite a bit of that old Raiden charm isn't present, I like II/DX better.

The green laser is okay, but not half as useful as the colgate gun, the ship's too large and looks a bit clumsy in-game, the debris is less detailed, the scenery is unaffected by explosions (except for the tank craters)

Still, I'm enjoying it, and it's quite challenging.

Nei First · Post by **Nei First** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 10:40 am

I still haven't played Raiden DX.

NoMaD · Post by **NoMaD** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:16 am

It doesn't seem to work on any graphics card lower than a GeForce FX (I own a GeForce 4 Ti 4200), which is a bit lame.

Guess I'll have to take it over to a friend's place whenever I want to play it or hope they'll release some kinda patch for lower end cards - which I find a bit absurd seeing as the graphics don't seem to require too much graphical stress :/

LRa · Post by **LRa** » Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:26 pm

PooshhMao wrote:Yes, run the included config.exe utility. Experiment a bit, I have dual joypads working here perfectly.

It's a *very* slick conversion, better than perfect I'd say, and plenty of fun too - but I feel that quite a bit of that old Raiden charm isn't present, I like II/DX better.

The green laser is okay, but not half as useful as the colgate gun, the ship's too large and looks a bit clumsy in-game, the debris is less detailed, the scenery is unaffected by explosions (except for the tank craters)

Still, I'm enjoying it, and it's quite challenging.

Experimented a lot with the config file, couldn't succeed.
And there are very few options, so not much to fiddle with.

lawnspic · Post by **lawnspic** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:25 pm

I just got this game and when i run it it just hangs and crashes then i have to terminate it ctrl+alt+del. To get it working i have to run in win 95 compatability mode or it wont work, any ideas? i have all the required system specs, 2.8 HT P4, radeon 9700 and 512mb ram. Thanks

PooshhMao · Post by **PooshhMao** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:13 pm

WinXPSP2 English, ATI X800, works out of the box... no clue.

lawnspic · Post by **lawnspic** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:23 am

yeah i have no clue either whats going on

moonblood · Post by **moonblood** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:00 am

with my old 64mb geforce 3 I just got 'please wait' then a black screen but music & fx.
I've then tried it with a asus 9400 XTD 128mb ddr and it showed the menus but then the same, black screen & sound. I guess a need an even beefier graphics card... will it work on any geforce fx (5200, etc), is this 100% confirmed?

NoMaD · Post by **NoMaD** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:31 am

moonblood wrote:with my old 64mb geforce 3 I just got 'please wait' then a black screen but music & fx.
I've then tried it with a asus 9400 XTD 128mb ddr and it showed the menus but then the same, black screen & sound. I guess a need an even beefier graphics card... will it work on any geforce fx (5200, etc), is this 100% confirmed?

I'm using a GeForce 4 Ti4200 and I get the same thing, so I guess that's correct.

doctorx0079 · Post by **doctorx0079** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:13 pm

Will it work with my old Radeon 7000? How much RAM do you NEED?

Post by **Shatterhand** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:15 pm

Does this come in DVD media or CD media ?

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:32 pm

a little OT but man this game has CRASHED on the arcade platform..

rom only is down to JPY5000 (yeah thats about $40)

too bad the mobos are still ~JPY100K tho...

Kaspal · Post by **Kaspal** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:32 pm

moonblood wrote:with my old 64mb geforce 3 I just got 'please wait' then a black screen but music & fx.
I've then tried it with a asus 9400 XTD 128mb ddr and it showed the menus but then the same, black screen & sound. I guess a need an even beefier graphics card... will it work on any geforce fx (5200, etc), is this 100% confirmed?

i run it with ABSOLUTELY no problems on a GF-FX5200 (a cheap ass VGA)... so i really dont know what's up with the game crashin o you guys.

Post by **nZero** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:43 pm

doctorx0079 wrote:Will it work with my old Radeon 7000? How much RAM do you NEED?

Nope. GeForce FX5200 or Radeon 9500 or better.
No idea about the stated requirements, a readme would've been nice.

Solid port. I'm hoping to see more Type-X to PC conversions.

lawnspic · Post by **lawnspic** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:22 pm

I got it to run with the windows compatability mode set to either 95, or win me or 98. It hangs otherwise. This is very odd

moonblood · Post by **moonblood** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:35 am

picked up the cheapest fx5200 card I could find yesterday (needed a little upgrade for outrun among other things anyway) and what do you know, now it works like a charm (yay!)... so there you go. nice game

Post by **Shatterhand** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:30 pm

needed a little upgrade for outrun among other things anyway

Outrun? Those new Outrun games also got PC versions ?!?!

moonblood · Post by **moonblood** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:03 am

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E1 ... e&n=468642

PooshhMao · Post by **PooshhMao** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:29 am

Didn't know either, perhaps we might see Afterburner Climax too?!

Post by **Shatterhand** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:43 pm

Hey, that's GREAT! Now I am out to find what are the minimum specs to run this game.

Edit: PC version is out only in 6th may.

Rev. Stuart Campbell · Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:50 am

1. There is DEFINITELY no Tate option on the main menu, I don't know where the other poster imagined it from. All you can do there is choose between tiny screen, full-height screen and full-height, horizontally-stretched screen.

2. I too have fiddled with every single option in the separate config prog and nothing has successfully enabled joypad support.

3. I've got a GeForce5200FX, East Asian language support, and have tried both Win95 and Win98 compatibility modes, and I still get the same thing as several other posters, in that when I try to start the game, it freezes visually at the "Loading Now" screen, but the game itself appears to be playing behind it, judging by the music and sound. (So I can't confirm whether there's a Tate option ingame, and I'd be wary of believing the person who said there is, since they also said there's one on the main menu when there isn't.) Worryingly, it also doesn't sound like it's autofiring.

elvis · Post by **elvis** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:20 am

NoMaD wrote:It doesn't seem to work on any graphics card lower than a GeForce FX (I own a GeForce 4 Ti 4200), which is a bit lame.

Guess I'll have to take it over to a friend's place whenever I want to play it or hope they'll release some kinda patch for lower end cards - which I find a bit absurd seeing as the graphics don't seem to require too much graphical stress :/

It required Direct X 9, hence the need for a GeForceFX 5200 or Radeon 9000 or greater.

"Graphical stress" has absolutely nothing to do with it. Your GeForce4 card simply doesn't have the hardware required to perform the calculations required by the game's engine. Raiden 3 in arcades is based on Taito's "Type X" hardware:

http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=677

Which is (you guessed it) a PC in a box with a DirectX9 card and a version of WindowsXP embedded. Technically speaking, that makes a home PC with an ATi Radeon card the closest thing to the arcade version (in terms of hardware - no comment on tate options or lack thereof, as I don't own it on PC, primarily because I already have it on PS2, but also because I find the whole Raiden series boring).

I can pick up an AGP GeForceFX 5200 or Radeon 9200 locally for AU$50 (US$37). That's about half the cost of the game. I've seen half the folks in this place spend ten times that on an arcade monitor.

[edit] And a big sunny hello to Reverend Stu. So nice to see you back and playing nice.

nihool · Post by **nihool** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:26 pm

Rev. Stuart Campbell wrote:1. There is DEFINITELY no Tate option on the main menu, I don't know where the other poster imagined it from. All you can do there is choose between tiny screen, full-height screen and full-height, horizontally-stretched screen.

2. I too have fiddled with every single option in the separate config prog and nothing has successfully enabled joypad support.

There DEFINITELY is a tate option in the main menu, but you have to enable fullscreen via the seperate config tool first. In the tool menu, on the first page, choose the SECOND option and confirm by pressing the middle button at the bottom.

Pad-support can be enabled by launching the config tool and selecting the second page. There, in the dropdown menu, choose the THIRD option (player 1), it should look like this:

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Now, click on the buttons and another dropdown menu with the available windows-keys appears, click on the dropdown menu again (so that it closes again but stays highlighted) and press the desired button on your pad. Save by pressing the middle button at the bottom of the config tool. Done.

I everything fails, there´s always this little helper:
http://www.electracode.com/4/joy2key/Jo ... ersion.htm

Hope this helps.

Btw, this is my first post on this forum, hi everybody

Post by **Shatterhand** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:27 pm

The PC version does have a Tate mode. It rotates both to Left and Right, but only if you are playing on full screen. (It won't make sense when playing on a window anyway).

Yeah, I got the game

I am running it on an GeForce FX5200 and Windows XP.

Edit: Oh well, Nihool beat me

. I also configured my pads and I can even play in 2 player mode with 2 pads now

.

Post by **nZero** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:12 pm

elvis wrote:It required Direct X 9, hence the need for a GeForceFX 5200 or Radeon 9000 or greater.

"Graphical stress" has absolutely nothing to do with it. Your GeForce4 card simply doesn't have the hardware required to perform the calculations required by the game's engine. Raiden 3 in arcades is based on Taito's "Type X" hardware:

http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=677

Which is (you guessed it) a PC in a box with a DirectX9 card and a version of WindowsXP embedded. Technically speaking, that makes a home PC with an ATi Radeon card the closest thing to the arcade version

Actually that would be a DirectX 8.1 card or higher. The Radeon 9000/9200 and 8500/9100 do not fully support DirectX 9. The GeForce FX would of course be the first in that particular line to support the full DX8.1 specification.

I wouldn't be surprised if the PC port is a full DX9 app, requiring a Radeon 9500 and/or GeForce FX (or S3 Chrome S20, or XGI Volari V5, or...) or better.

I imagine some people would be helped by getting their video drivers and Direct X version fully up to date, as well... I couldn't fullscreen with my X800XL until I used the DX9 installer packed with Raiden III.

Necronom · Post by **Necronom** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:43 pm

@nihool:

Thanks for the instruction to get the tatemode runnig. And yeah...welcome and hello

kemical · Post by **kemical** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:49 pm

type-x hwardware basically is a pc with a usb dongle/key, maybe we will see other type-x stuff released?? (or maybe there already has been?)
Raiden 3 is cool, but something is missing, I think if the backgrounds were more interactive it would be a bit closer to the Raiden 2 feeling.

Post by **Shatterhand** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:01 pm

I wish the ship was a little faster.

Still a cool game indeed. Not fabulous, but entertaining enough.

elvis · Post by **elvis** » Mon May 01, 2006 1:52 am

nZero wrote:Actually that would be a DirectX 8.1 card or higher. The Radeon 9000/9200 and 8500/9100 do not fully support DirectX 9. The GeForce FX would of course be the first in that particular line to support the full DX8.1 specification.

I wouldn't be surprised if the PC port is a full DX9 app, requiring a Radeon 9500 and/or GeForce FX (or S3 Chrome S20, or XGI Volari V5, or...) or better.

Ah yes, you are correct. The 9200 is indeed DX8.1 only.

Taito Type X hardware is configurable at the game manufacturer's request. It may contain any card from a 9200 up to and including an X800XT (ie: their entire current AGP line).

And yes, Raiden 3 is a DX9.0c title. The official system requirements are quite specific:
http://raiden.mossjp.co.jp/pc/SystemRequirements.html

Anyone playing on DX8 hardware will need to upgrade. The PC requirements have been listed on the official site for quite some time.

kemical wrote:type-x hwardware basically is a pc with a usb dongle/key, maybe we will see other type-x stuff released?? (or maybe there already has been?)

http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=677

Homura made it to PS2. Shikigami 1 and 2 both hit PC, so I wouldn't be surprised if 3 will appear on PC in 12 months time.