Dunno, just feels horrible to me, always has. Or do what I do which is get the clear then never touch the game again..Some-Mist wrote:after you achieve a 1CC, do you just go back and clear the game over and over again with no regard to your score?
"it's good if you ignore the bad parts"Xyga wrote:if you don't give a crap about its flaws nor ranking in score boards there's good times to have with it
you're up for the WR of stupid comments now?Bananamatic wrote:"it's good if you ignore the bad parts"Xyga wrote:if you don't give a crap about its flaws nor ranking in score boards there's good times to have with it
you could say the same about nazi germany
Strikers1945guy wrote:"Do we....eat chicken balls?!"
This is entirely true, and it goes both ways.Bananamatic wrote:I don't understand why people need to defend a game from criticism (sometimes by not even making a counterargument, rather by telling people to ignore it)
you're still allowed to like and play it
Shepardus wrote:What do people actually like about ESP Ra.De, besides apologizing for the boss milking?
I want to point fingers at fan autism, but I think people just want to express how much they like something and why they like it. When someone comes along with an opposing opinion, it detracts from their enjoyment, and as a result they try to defend and justify the thing they enjoy because they don't want to believe that they have shit taste. The problem is that, on the internet, everything needs to be turned into a debate about objective truth instead of an expression of opinion. While it does generate decent discussion from time to time, develops individual tastes, and gives people a slightly increased appreciation for a thing, people mistake typical banter for ultra serious discussion with a winning side and a losing side.I don't understand why people need to defend a game from criticism (sometimes by not even making a counterargument, rather by telling people to ignore it)
you're still allowed to like and play it
No it's his usual, it's really what he thinks. One thing's wrong? It's all shit. It's banana, yet another would-be Judge Dredd of video gaming.Rue wrote:From what I see, your criticism about milking activated a few almonds and made people think that you're claiming an entire game is awful due to the milking alone.
Strikers1945guy wrote:"Do we....eat chicken balls?!"
I should probably duck out because I'm not even sure how to address this - I don't feel like you're disagreeing with me? But the one thing I want to point out is that if boss milking is so horrible that it turns off people playing for score, why were/are kamui and other folks still playing Garegga competitively within the last 5 years?Bananamatic wrote: "It's perfectly fine to not want to add a competitive aspect to these games and rather enjoy them on a survival level"
you could make the argument about every aspect of every game
"not every game needs to cater to people who like boss fights, just enjoy the stages"
"not every game needs easy modes, enjoy the difficulty instead"
the result is that less people will play it and then you're wondering why it's not as popular
adding a sensible scoring system doesn't detract from the survival aspect in any way, it just turns off people who enjoy playing for score
Hah. Well for my part I can't help but take game/media/art I love and graft it onto my soul so when someone criticises it, they're criticising me. >_<Bananamatic wrote:I don't understand why people need to defend a game from criticism
Not a rhetorical question. I wasn't trying to imply that there are no other qualities, I was just asking because nobody was really talking about the game besides the milking and I wanted to hear people bring something new to the table. For what it's worth, I do like the aesthetic, if not much else.Sumez wrote:I honestly don't care that you don't like the game personally, which you have a fine reason for. What I'm reacting to is arguments like this, which implies either that the boss milking is a be-all and-all thing, or that the game doesn't have any other qualities (which I think it obviously has):Shepardus wrote:What do people actually like about ESP Ra.De, besides apologizing for the boss milking?
I think that's exactly right. The boss milking is very tedious but with the exception of the first boss, isn't all that easy to do and high risk, especially in stage 4. As I mentioned before and as others have said, it's what Esprade is often known for, but it's really also not all that important either. Like saying you shouldn't buy a Mercedes because their engine is factory-limited to 250kph... I mean, outside of Germany, who goes that fast anyways??PROMETHEUS wrote:i dont know how to compare esprade's milking to garegga, but esprade's milking doesnt seem fun, Its probably more simple and repetitive, it just seems like a big flaw in the game, overlooked the points given by the weak shots of second attack
Someone asked on the previous page. There is a thread about just that.copy-paster wrote:Quite surprised no one talked about the secret cruel ending, one of most downer endings there!
Also can anyone show the player hitbox on all characters? The placement seems uncertain to me.
toby wrote:Enjoy!
) it not something i intend to ever return to; the level structure/pacing is particularly weak and the only sort of oomph the game has is when you get decent medal drops which is too easy to manipulate and doesn't even require skill with JD. the first 4 stages are cool and the last two/ending just seems rushed.
