Deathsmiles (1/1/2/2/3/3, no EX stage) is probably one of the most approachable options, to be honest. You really played it for an entire year? What parts were giving you the most trouble?DoctorKwack101 wrote:I actually dedicated my life to Deathsmiles for an entire year back in 2015, even going so far as to record footage of my runs and analyze what I was doing wrong, just so I could finally say I 1CC'd a bullet hell game, but in the end I never did it. The shmups always win.
I got pretty good at blasting through all six stages and maximizing my score, but all of my work would come crashing down during the Jitterbug fight and then Tyrannosatan would just clean up the mess. I seriously didn't understand how I was supposed to fight Jitterbug without taking damage. He's a beast!Keres wrote:Deathsmiles (1/1/2/2/3/3, no EX stage) is probably one of the most approachable options, to be honest. You really played it for an entire year? What parts were giving you the most trouble?DoctorKwack101 wrote:I actually dedicated my life to Deathsmiles for an entire year back in 2015, even going so far as to record footage of my runs and analyze what I was doing wrong, just so I could finally say I 1CC'd a bullet hell game, but in the end I never did it. The shmups always win.
If you're analyzing your mistakes, there's nothing there that should be particularly insurmountable, especially if you know where the life-up items are, and how to get both score extends. You can also watch other players' replays to see how they handle particular sections.
You might want to practice some of those stages on higher difficulties, since extra health items appear in them only when the difficulty is at a certain level (off the cuff I forget which ones, though I'm sure there's an ST thread you could check); IIRC the last stage's difficulty is the same no matter what route you take, so if you can get there with an extra life or two it might help you to get over that last hurdle.DoctorKwack101 wrote:(also, I could only do 1/1/1/1/1/1 runs because bumping up to 2 or 3 would always always end up making me take damage......)
Yeah, I just got scared away from the high rank stages because the extra damage I took always ended up nullifying whatever health the cakes gave me. I was like, "Rank 1 is easy so I'll just do Rank 1 all the time!" Apparently beating Jitterbug without using bombs also gives you a whopping two cakes or something like that, which is what I saw in a lot of replays. But the odds of me beating Jitterbug without using bombs are a nice resounding ZERO >_<BulletMagnet wrote:You might want to practice some of those stages on higher difficulties, since extra health items appear in them only when the difficulty is at a certain level (off the cuff I forget which ones, though I'm sure there's an ST thread you could check); IIRC the last stage's difficulty is the same no matter what route you take, so if you can get there with an extra life or two it might help you to get over that last hurdle.DoctorKwack101 wrote:(also, I could only do 1/1/1/1/1/1 runs because bumping up to 2 or 3 would always always end up making me take damage......)
Thank you for this list! I'll be sure to check these games out.Shepardus wrote:Just going to link to this post I made a while back: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p1264101
If you do well up until then, you can pretty much bomb all the way through Tyrannosatan. If you also bomb through Jitterbug, you might need to actually try for the first half of Tyrannosatan.
Thank you for showing me this, I appreciate it!opt2not wrote:Also, give this guide a read: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=34497
It's got a lot of fundamental tips and strategies that apply to all games of the genre. I've used it as my bible when I got to the point that I needed to up my game as well.
I practiced Deathsmiles until I made myself sick of it, which is a shame because it's a great game. I agree with you, I should bounce around a little and just play these games to have fun, not beat myself up for failing to 1CC them.Kollision wrote:overall tips unrelated to the game in question:
1. if you hit a plateau and you're starting to lose the sense of fun just step away from the game for a few days
2. play more than one game at a single time; a mix of old school and danmaku is nice
3. abuse practice modes; e.g. dedicate a whole evening to just a single stage or boss; come back later and reap the results during an actual credit
4. watch someone else who's more experienced play the game and check for ways to improve your own strategy (don't try to mimic, this always leads to anger, and anger leads to fear, fear leads to hate, hate leads to.... well you know the drill)
above all have fun
fuck those who brag about being able to beat these games in a sitting, in a week, in a month
Ahhh, this is a great list! I will definitely try some of these games out and see if I can achieve the mythical 1CC. Thank you for writing this up for me.donluca wrote:I'm in the same boat as you, I'd advise trying the following games:
Batsugun Special, first loop only. -> First game I beat at normal "arcade difficulty". Pretty satisfying.
Mushihimesama, Maniac Easy Mode -> It took lots of time until I realized when and where to bomb
Mushihimesama, Arrange Mode -> I always manage to reach the TLB and then I get wrecked.
ESPGaluda 2 -> I think I 1CC'ed it at my second or third try.
Crimzon Clover, Novice/Easy (can't remember), also Variable -> took me a month or so, but managed to beat it.
Mushihimesama Futari/Black Label, Easy mode, Ultra/God -> Tons of fun, took me a little short of a month to 1CC it.
Blue Wish/Resurrection -> easy and normal (don't remember the names) -> Really, REALLY satisfying. I love to play this game over and over.
Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu -> I almost managed to 1CC it, I learned how to get through the lasers at the last stage but then dropped it (don't remember why)
Hope this helps!
P.S.: keep in mind I'm REALLY bad at shmups. Like, really REALLY bad.
I'm going to guess you're referring to Arrange or Omake mode (or even BL?). Regular Esp2 is no slouchdonluca wrote:ESPGaluda 2 -> I think I 1CC'ed it at my second or third try.
You know I'm... actually not sure if I ever tried the MBL version!Muchi Muchi Spork wrote:I seem to recall Deathsmiles Megablack being an even easier clear than the original Deathsmiles if you know what you're doing in regard to the absolute easiest route.
I've accidentally 1CC'd the Deathsmiles games just while screwing around and not trying.
Gosh now that you mention it I'm not 100% sure about this. Issue is that I've been working on a SCART to JAMMA adapter for quite a bit to make my X360 run on my Astro City cab and didnt' play galuda2 for a while, but you might be 100% correct.Keres wrote:I'm going to guess you're referring to Arrange or Omake mode (or even BL?). Regular Esp2 is no slouchdonluca wrote:ESPGaluda 2 -> I think I 1CC'ed it at my second or third try.
If you just want to 1cc, build up a hyper (1000 skulls) during the last portion before Jitterbug, use bombs to avoid getting hit if necessary.DoctorKwack101 wrote:I got pretty good at blasting through all six stages and maximizing my score, but all of my work would come crashing down during the Jitterbug fight and then Tyrannosatan would just clean up the mess. I seriously didn't understand how I was supposed to fight Jitterbug without taking damage. He's a beast!
Also, the long final level that runs up to Jitterbug would usually knock me down a health point or two as well, especially when the enemy mobs start coming from left and right simultaneously. Even if by some miracle I managed to make it through everything unscathed, Jitterbug would do me in. -_-
the DDP ports are ass, just emulate itfinisherr wrote: If you play MAME, Playstation (JP) or Saturn (JP), get a copy of DodonPachi and play that. Don't ask me how to do this if you don't already.
