PS2 Ibara Impressions

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:48 pm

Fuck Play Asia.

Well, I should get the $5 coupon with my order, right? Meaning I can cancel my Under Defeat preorder, then re-preorder it to get $5 off ^_^

Moogs · Post by **Moogs** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 4:13 pm

TerminasluT wrote:To anyone who preordered from NCSX, did any of you guys got there orders shipped already? I was hoping to get it before this weekend .

Mine arrived this morning.

landshark · Post by **landshark** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:06 pm

I'm having issues seeing the bullets as well. I tend to grab a bullet, mistaking it for a smaller rose.

The bosses are insane, which is great. It actually feels like you are fighting a boss.

The title screen reminds me alot of Dimahoo for some reason and I love the weapon name voices. The title screen is a deep "eee bah rah". No damned chick voice like so many imports (sorry - it's always bugged me). Suprisingly good music too.

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:25 pm

landshark wrote:The title screen reminds me alot of Dimahoo for some reason and I love the weapon name voices. The title screen is a deep "eee bah rah". No damned chick voice like so many imports (sorry - it's always bugged me). Suprisingly good music too.

The commentator's voice is awesome!

MASHEEEEEN GANNN!!
BAAAAAHNAAAAHHH!!
FAIBBBBU UEEEEII!!
ROKKETTTTTOOH!!

Post by **Dave_K.** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:38 pm

Kiken wrote:
landshark wrote:The title screen reminds me alot of Dimahoo for some reason and I love the weapon name voices. The title screen is a deep "eee bah rah". No damned chick voice like so many imports (sorry - it's always bugged me). Suprisingly good music too.
The commentator's voice is awesome!

MASHEEEEEN GANNN!!
BAAAAAHNAAAAHHH!!
FAIBBBBU UEEEEII!!
ROKKETTTTTOOH!!

Collect enough bomb fragments and UUUMMPPAA!! (How this means bomb I don't know)

Geezer · Post by **Geezer** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:45 pm

If you want the booklet you need to buy from someone who sources their games from Japanese distributors as opposed to Asian ones. Here is one.

I have one on the way from Yesasia, so it's doubtful that I will get the booklet.

Kiken · Post by **Kiken** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:58 pm

Dave_K. wrote:Collect enough bomb fragments and UUUMMPPAA!! (How this means bomb I don't know)

I'm pretty sure he's actually saying:

BOMMUBAAAAAHHHH!!!

Ord · Post by **Ord** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:34 pm

Isn't the booklet just a reprint of the Arcadia stratagy guide from last year? If so Icarus has the scans on his wonderful site "Featheredwings.net", under the scans section. I know it's not the same thing as having the booklet in your hands, but it better than nothing, no?

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:41 pm

Ord wrote:Isn't the booklet just a reprint of the Arcadia stratagy guide from last year?

Yip. It's essentially the same. The booklet just has some more explanations for beginners about Ibara's basic gameplay concept.

Post by **Icarus** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:23 am

Y'know, I was half-tempted to dispense with the Scans section as I haven't been keeping it up to date. Actually have all the Arcadia issues with the complete Ibara guide in it as well -_-;;

Cthulhu did a very nice translation of Arcadia's Ibara system explanation, located somewhere on my site updates thread. (It's on the 3rd page, if you're interested)

I'll probably spool that off into a fully-fledged ST guide (about the size of my Garegga ST) in the near future.

On topic: had a quick go of Arranged last night, and so far it's kind of meh. Hasn't grown on me at all, just feels like a hacked up Cave-flavoured shmup with Ibara's graphics. Haven't figured out al it's nuances yet, but there seems to be less coherency/consitency about Arranged. Might just be because I'm so used to playing Raizing-styled Ibara...

Arcade Mode is still as sexy as ever, although it feels... different... to the PCB.

Most noticeable is the fact that you spawn a lot faster after you die on the PS2 version than you do on the PCB. Not as fast as you do on Arranged, but it's close.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:28 am

I asked somewhere before but didn't get an answer. Can anyone that bought the Black Label PCB comment on differences between it and arrange (other than the 1 credit). I don't recall Black Label being super easy like it sounds (although I got to level 3 the one time I played it).

Thunder Force · Post by **Thunder Force** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:38 am

Loading times in this conversion seem more painful than usual. Perhaps to be expected when Type X has around eight times the RAM of a PS2, but still...

I'd be happier with an option to turn off that opening girls portrait and voice clip altogether, like the option Shikigami No Shiro II had to skip intermissions like that. Rather than have to watch it load up for a few seconds, them load out again after displaying it, to wait again to load in the level animations.

sammaza wrote:Arrange mode is so cool...You are constantly changing your layouts on the fly and it never stops! You get to points where you are in massive bullet "mazes"! ...sometimes like in level 2 Boss I have to use bombs to get free...but thats when you get mad points if there are tons of Boss's bullets on the screen and you kill him at that time...Then your raking in the points...I Luv the animations on the ground (Playing on 29in Neocandy Arcade cab...), so I can een see the little cow in the field on the begining of level 2 eating grass...and how your little buddy guys spurt smoke from the rear every time they fire the flamethrowers. Its just sweet !

Favorite weapons so far are Gattling guns, missiles, and of course Flame throwers...

BTW! This game can be 1cc'd if you can master the ship configuration switching on the fly...

ex. You can switch to "back" fire mode and go to the top of the screen and clean up at certain points you have too!

Yeah I can't believe how kickass this Black Label mode is. I expected I'd prefer the original Raizing mode, but now I barely even think about it. Black Label's clear Rank meter, Thunderforce-esque weapons toggle system, total formation control, bombing for roses gameplay, plus clearer bullet patterns, and hitbox refinements, take this game to a whole new level of fun.

zakk · Post by **zakk** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:27 am

Thunder Force wrote:Loading times in this conversion seem more painful than usual. Perhaps to be expected when Type X has around eight times the RAM of a PS2, but still...

Ibara is not TypeX. None of the new Cave games are. Custom SH3 based boards.

Thunder Force · Post by **Thunder Force** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:43 am

zakk wrote:Ibara is not TypeX. None of the new Cave games are. Custom SH3 based boards.

Well spotted, I must have been thinking of Raiden III. (They both have shooting in them...

)

roker · Post by **roker** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:00 am

Thunder Force wrote:Yeah I can't believe how kickass this Black Label mode is. I expected I'd prefer the original Raizing mode, but now I barely even think about it. Black Label's clear Rank meter, Thunderforce-esque weapons toggle system, total formation control, bombing for roses gameplay, plus clearer bullet patterns, and hitbox refinements, take this game to a whole new level of fun.

couldn't have said it better myself

then again, I'm not what you'd call an elite shmup'er (I have yet to start talking about resolution and other stuff that's supposed to make these games fun . . . ha ha ha, I kid)

so far, level 3 boss

tomorrow, I'm going to level 4, oh yeah, believe it

quick one, what's the dif between the 4 ships?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:38 am

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Arrange is not Black Label. I only played BL once, and didn't really pay TOO much attention, but I just remember it being a lot more furious.

There are definitely some subtle differences at least. Namely, there's a continue feature (not really that subtle actually) and the ship choice is mandatory when you start. Hopefully the PCB owners can shed some light.

Geezer · Post by **Geezer** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:34 am

Geezer wrote:If you want the booklet you need to buy from someone who sources their games from Japanese distributors as opposed to Asian ones. Here is one.

I have one on the way from Yesasia, so it's doubtful that I will get the booklet.

I was wrong!! My copy from Yesasia arrived today and it includes the booklet

Trevor spencer · Post by **Trevor spencer** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:52 am

Geezer wrote:
Geezer wrote:If you want the booklet you need to buy from someone who sources their games from Japanese distributors as opposed to Asian ones. Here is one.

I have one on the way from Yesasia, so it's doubtful that I will get the booklet.
I was wrong!! My copy from Yesasia arrived today and it includes the booklet

Bet my play-asia copy dosnt have it

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:58 am

GaijinPunch wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Arrange is not Black Label. I only played BL once, and didn't really pay TOO much attention, but I just remember it being a lot more furious.

There are definitely some subtle differences at least. Namely, there's a continue feature (not really that subtle actually) and the ship choice is mandatory when you start. Hopefully the PCB owners can shed some light.

Having played both now I'm pretty sure in-game they're both the same game, apart from the single credit on ps2.
Also, wasn't there a way to get all 4 ships on the PCB, at least in regular Ibara?

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:59 pm

Yes you can select 4 different types in normal Ibara, but you can't do them by button combination in the port. You have to manually go into options and change it. Type D (A+B on the PCB) 2P has the BEST bomb.

Thanks to oxtsu, but Archer posted differences between ARC/PS2. He mentiones less score potential and muddy colors?

http://home.r00.itscom.net/archer/

agony · Post by **agony** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:26 pm

got mine today, and I love it

it`s from Play-Asia and does not have the arcadia booklet thing

DC906270 · Post by **DC906270** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:32 pm

I was wrong!! My copy from Yesasia arrived today and it includes the booklet

mine arrived too today from yesasia, and yes i got the booklet with it

having played it for a couple of hours now, my first impressions are that it is a good solid port. and "arrange" mode is excellent. with this and regular ibara, it is like 2 games in one package, a "raizing" style take on the game and a "cave" one - enough to suit all tastes

yes, it is slightly blurred/filtered. no more than mushi port was tho, or espgaluda for that matter. doesnt affect gameplay at all.

ive only played the arcade Ibara once, for like half an hour or something, but the port seems 98%. ive deducted 2% for the slightly less crisp visuals. but add back 50% for the arrange/black label mode. overall score 14.8 out of 10

brand1bil · Post by **brand1bil** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:12 pm

could anyone with the guide/booklet post a photo of it, I'm thinking mainly about the cover... Thanks!

EDIT: Nevermind - found out what it looks like...

Kron · Post by **Kron** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:31 pm

DC906270 wrote: yes, it is slightly blurred/filtered. no more than mushi port was tho, or espgaluda for that matter. doesnt affect gameplay at all.

Have you ever played the PS2 version of espgaluda in tate?

This is why there is so much bad information on the internet.

DC906270 · Post by **DC906270** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:14 pm

Have you ever played the PS2 version of espgaluda in tate?

This is why there is so much bad information on the internet.

yes , i have and there are no problems (apart from the score being obscured at top of screen-i believe RGB fixes this tho) . and i dont know what you are getting at - why is this "bad information"?

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:28 pm

Geezer wrote:
Geezer wrote:If you want the booklet you need to buy from someone who sources their games from Japanese distributors as opposed to Asian ones. Here is one.

I have one on the way from Yesasia, so it's doubtful that I will get the booklet.
I was wrong!! My copy from Yesasia arrived today and it includes the booklet

Ibara doesn't got an Asian version, all the stocks from PA and YA are imported from Japan. It was said that a booklet was given for every a certain amount of copies (may be 4, 5, 6 I don't know).

These special gifts usually kept with the seller who first order the stock from the Japanese whole seller. The demand of Ibara in Hong Kong is not enough for most Hong Kong sellers to place a whole sale order directly from Japan. So other Hong Kong sellers each bought a few copies from the one who ordered a whole lot form Japan. Usually those special gifts could be bought from the seller whom orderd a whole lot for $2 each.

There are definately some booklets come with the stock of Ibara to Hong Kong, but really don't know who held them besides YA. May be YA is the one who ordered a whole lot.

icycalm · Post by **icycalm** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:38 pm

So you live in Hong Kong then, or Taiwan?

Geezer · Post by **Geezer** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:38 pm

SAM wrote:
Geezer wrote:
Geezer wrote:If you want the booklet you need to buy from someone who sources their games from Japanese distributors as opposed to Asian ones. Here is one.

I have one on the way from Yesasia, so it's doubtful that I will get the booklet.
I was wrong!! My copy from Yesasia arrived today and it includes the booklet
Ibara doesn't got an Asian version, all the stock from PA and YA are imported from Japan. It was said that the booklets were given every a certain amount of copies (may be 4, 5, 6 I don't know).

These special gifts usually kept with the seller who first order the stock from the Japanese whole seller. The demand of Ibara in Hong Kong is not enough for most Hong Kong seller to place a whole sale order directly from Japan. So other Hong Kong sellers each bought a few copies from the one who ordered a whole lot form Japan. Those special gifts could be bought from the seller whom orderd a whole lot for $2 each.

There are definately some booklets come with the stock of Ibara to Hong Kong, but really don't know who held them besides YA. May be YA is the one who ordered a whole lot.

Ibara doesn't have an Asian version in the sense of "For home use only". However, it does have an Asian distributed version. Read the sticker on the front of the box

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:54 pm

icycalm wrote:So you live in Hong Kong then, or Taiwan?

Well, that's a Hong Kong seller (Barry of www.gamechoiceclub.com) told me.

Geezer wrote:Ibara doesn't have an Asian version in the sense of "For home use only". However, it does have an Asian distributed version. Read the sticker on the front of the box

That's what I got on my copy. I just haven't play attention on the sticker. I guess all copies with that stickers won't come with the booklet.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:45 pm

DC906270 wrote:yes , i have and there are no problems (apart from the score being obscured at top of screen-i believe RGB fixes this tho) . and i dont know what you are getting at - why is this "bad information"?

It does not. The game has really long (vertical) resolution (as does ESPGaluda II) and will require adjusting on most monitors/TVs.