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CStarFlare wrote:Didn't realise they were in with 5pb. I wouldn't say no to the updated Bullet Soul.
Good call. Seems like a natural for a Steam release.
They even namedropped it in a Famitsu article IIRC when they first released Phantom Breaker BG on Steam, but ever since...nothing. :(
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Yeah, would like Bullet Soul: Infinite Burst to come steam wise, but the chances of that are rather slim...>.>

But hey, you never know. <.<
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Do we know if 5pb even holds the licenses to those two games anymore? They almost certainly lost the DOJ license after what happened and I figured the Ketsui PS3 release was just them milking the license before it expired.
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I feel a little bad for them considering how much abuse they're taking for not porting X, Y, and Z when they basically _can't_. CAVE is on life support and they're barely able to get these basic 360 ports out the door right now. Depending on how these do overall, we may never even see the full lineup of existing CAVE-created 360 ports.

Even if 5pb doesn't have the rights to the license at this point, they'd still own the existing port code. CAVE would have to re-port the whole thing from scratch or pay 5pb for it. So I think if we ever get DOJ/Ketsui, it'll be the last two games they do simply because they have a lot of other existing 360 code they can update and recompile with a lot less trouble first.

They'd need to make enough money to make a re-port justifiable for those, too. You'd probably be better off begging 5pb to do their own PC ports of their code. Assuming the quality wasn't complete garbage, anyway.
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I'll buy 10 of these if it has all the game modes (Bl Arrange specifically) available as dlc or otherwise.

(not that i have that many friends, but hey. I'll gift them through steam to randoms!
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Yeah, I already plan to pick it up, but BL Arrange will be enough to get me to gift copies to a bunch of friends.
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Dracuify wrote:(not that i have that many friends, but hey. I'll gift them through steam to randoms!
Gift them to me then I'll send them to my shooty friends, lel.
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This will be the third in a row I'm not buying then.
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StarCreator wrote:Do we know if 5pb even holds the licenses to those two games anymore? They almost certainly lost the DOJ license after what happened and I figured the Ketsui PS3 release was just them milking the license before it expired.
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Nah, seriously. What happened?
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Skykid wrote:This will be the third in a row I'm not buying then.
Same. I'm all over Dangun though.
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Cave did release their own DOJ port for iOS in 2012 so I think they are at least capable of making a PC port of that game, and also Ketsui since it uses the same engine.
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Rupert H wrote:
Skykid wrote:This will be the third in a row I'm not buying then.
Same. I'm all over Dangun though.
This'll be the third in a row I am buying. Won't be getting feveron, I sold my ps4, didn't like the controller and load times. Hope they bring it over to pc, I mean it's fine in mame but I'd love an official release with leaderboards.
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d3vak wrote: Nah, seriously. What happened?
They ripped off and screwed up the code from Arika's PS2 port, then requiring Arika to come in and help them unfuck it with patches.

I don't think they "lost" the license because of this, but I most certainly think the license had an expiry date that passed a long time ago.
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This is awesome.

Now all I need after that is a Ketsui, a Saidaoujou and a Pink Sweets ports and all my favorite shmups will be on Steam-

Also, plz BL, Ketsupatchi and all as DLCs, I wanna spend my shekels.

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Tbh a Cave game that could benefit a lot from being on PC would be Deathsmiles IIX. It could be ported to run natively since it originally ran on PC-based hardware and hopefully with some graphics options to improve on those ugly-ass models that the 360 port had. The game ain't that great but it's undeniable that it would benefit A LOT from being ported to PC.
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Oniros wrote:Tbh a Cave game that could benefit a lot from being on PC would be Deathsmiles IIX. It could be ported to run natively since it originally ran on PC-based hardware and hopefully with some graphics options to improve on those ugly-ass models that the 360 port had. The game ain't that great but it's undeniable that it would benefit A LOT from being ported to PC.
Not only that, but a bleeping English translation would be nice. >.>
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Espgaluda II might come before SDOJ too, assuming that they're aiming to port the games that already have English translations first.

But then again, CAVE said that they only had three games planned for Steam, so maybe these three are all we're going to get.
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Seeing as people post to say they're not buying this, I may aswell chip in.

I'm buying this. For reasons.
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Who knows if they will port any more games to Steam? It started out with 2 games and when Deathsmiles had come out, Blackbird said there would be a third title.
After the release of Mushihimesama someone asked if CAVE was happy with the sales and Blackbird said that they were. So 10k sales is ok for them, it seems.

Noone has said anything about more games coming out? Personally I hope they will port the games that were region locked.
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It all depends on the costs of porting the games versus the profits they can make, doesn't it? Even if the sales aren't stellar, if they are making money, why should they stop?
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If the resources they have to put towards Steam ports could be doing better things, then a small profit might not be worth it.
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I remember they saying to have planned on releasing just 3 games on Steam. I too hope we get more than that...Maybe Dangun Feveron too? :(
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CStarFlare wrote:If the resources they have to put towards Steam ports could be doing better things, then a small profit might not be worth it.
Last year we weren't getting shit and now we have 3 Cave games on Steam. They could port everything for what I care as long as there is some hope that at the end a new arcade game will be developed.
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They should port all the games on 360, and then they can release a Cave STG Collection on steam with all the games :D
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That's what i'm hoping for.
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z0mbie90 wrote:They should port all the games on 360, and then they can release a Cave STG Collection on steam with all the games :D
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Good one! Milk it like you milk the bosses for score.
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z0mbie90 wrote:Good one! Milk it like you milk the bosses for score.
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