XRGB-mini Framemeister

[Xileize]

I originally set up the receiver using the Audyssey mic and going through the calibration stuff, but I haven't touched any of the settings for months. I tried doing a factory reset earlier today and that hasn't helped. I'm not sure where my remote is so I'm having trouble navigating through all the menus at the moment.

I have tried the Framemeister in both HDMI and DVI and neither work through the receiver, but both work directly to the TV.

EDIT: If I turn the SNES on or off while "No Signal" is displaying, the TV does go black like it would when the Framemeister is changing resolutions, but it then goes back to "No Signal" instead of displaying anything.

[fafangus]

Once I had a similar problem with my onkyo, the two hdmi output were not at the same settings of resolution (the two output sets to 1080p but one 24bit and the other 32bit), and I've got a hdmi splitter after the first output, so the signal was ok on the first output (samsung tv + xcapture1 + samsung tft 23" + projector), and on the second (IIyama 27" hooked in) I was getting no signal, hooking the IIyama to the first output again, no signal, so I set the two output to both resolution and bingo it was working !!

So first try to hook some dvd player or console (xbox ps3) to your onkyo via hdmi and see what happen

[Xileize]

Hooking a console directly to the Onkyo via HDMI or through the Framemeister > Onkyo?

I currently have PS3/4, Xbox 360, Wii U and the Framemeister connected to my Onkyo. The PS3/4, 360 and Wii U all work fine, it's just the Framemeister.

Should I try running one of the consoles through the HDMI in on the Framemeister?

EDIT: Just tried connecting the PS3 to the Framemeister, but no luck.

In all the times of trying to get this to work, this has happened three times out of about 30 attempts:

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[fafangus]

You could do that, using the HDMI pass-through mode to see if it's working, and the normal mode also
What is your setting on the frameister (h/v polarity, sync level etc...)

[Xileize]

Sync Level is set to 9 and both H and V polarity are off.

I included a picture to the post above with a picture of what has happened a few times, but only for a couple of seconds before going back to no signal.

[fafangus]

and with pass trough ?
seems that your framemeister doesn't see the ps3 signal (?!)

[Xileize]

Pass through doesn't seem to make a difference.

[fafangus]

what firmware are you using ?

[Xileize]

For the Framemeister? I'm on 2.02. I updated a couple days after it came out so I've been using it for around 2 weeks with no problems. I did try reinstalling the firmware but I haven't tried downgrading.

As for the receiver, I think it's the latest version, but I can't check because I still haven't managed to find the remote. Though I did do a factory reset earlier, so I'm not sure if that's just settings or the firmware as well (I would assume just settings?).

[fafangus]

Did you try xrgb directly to tv ?

[Xileize]

Yes, that works fine.

What happened was I had Xbox > Framemeister > Receiver > HDMI Splitter > TV and I was getting pretty bad sync issues.

I unplugged the Framemeister from the receiver and tried Xbox > Framemeister > TV and that helped a bit with the sync issues but didn't fix it.

I then put it back to Xbox > Framemeister > Receiver > HDMI Splitter > TV and since then it has stopped working through the receiver (but directly to TV still works).

[fafangus]

Why do you want your xbox (1,360,one ?) to run trough the FM ?

[Xileize]

It's the original xbox, and just because I have an RGB cable that I can use. I'm not overly bothered about the xbox at the moment though, just want the Framemeister working on the receiver again.

[axlblazeadam]

It's the original xbox, and just because I have an RGB cable that I can use. I'm not overly bothered about the xbox at the moment though, just want the Framemeister working on the receiver again.

Buy the component cables for the original Xbox, you will not be dissapointed

[seaandthebells]

Howdy everyone,

I'm brand new to the forum and the XRGB Mini as well. Pretty psyched about both. I'm having a problem I'm hoping someone might have some insight on.

I've updated my Framemeister to the most recent firmware, version 2.02, but it still won't let me change the Sync Level from 9. The option is greyed out when I try to access, even after turning the auto sync mode off. So frustrating. I'm using the Retro Console Accessories-made Euro SCART cables for Saturn and PlayStation with the Passive SCART Adapter. Right now, the Mini just says "No Input" when I fire up the consoles, so I know I need to be able to increase the "Sync Level" to even get a read, but no dice.

If you have any ideas, they'd be well appreciated. Thanks so much.

-Anthony

[seaandthebells]

Hi all! Not sure why but my last reply didn't seem to post. Has anyone run into a problem with the Mini running firmware 2.2 where the Sync Level is greyed out and can't be changed even though Sync Mode is switched to off? Hoping someone can help.

[superpotatoes]

Hi,

I recently picked up a Mini and the required cables but am having an odd display issue. I am leaning towards either a bad JP21 DIN or SHVC-010 adapter but wanted to see if anyone had seen the issue before. When going (SFC/NESRGB) -> SHVC-010 -> JP21 DIN -> XRGB -> HDMI -> TV the output is a vague outline of the sprites, mostly white but on certain images the outline is colored with an RGB palette.

When composite or S video cables are used in place of the SHVC-0101+JP21 DIN combination, everything works fine. I have also tried two TVs, same the results. I tried a handful of NESRGB and SNES precompiled XRGB profiles, DVI and HDMI output modes as well as adjusting almost every setting to no avail.

The XRGB is on the newest firmware 2.02.

Has anyone seen this before or have any ideas on how to pinpoint the specific component failure? I figure the SHVC 010 is the older of the two and should start with that, especially since the eBay return clock is ticking.

Thanks,
SP

EDIT: I did find one mention of a similar problem on Atari Age. The individual was running the same setup as me and it looks like the issue came down to the SHVC-010 cable. Possibly bad capacitors. I do not want to crack open the JP21 end and not be able to get my money back. Here is an image of what the OP saw which is identical to what I am seeing.

https://i.imgur.com/PYOWq2P.jpg

http://atariage.com/forums/topic/222002 ... ?p=3120650

I have ordered a Solaris Pro RGB cable for SFC to see if that'll fix my issue and at least allow me to rule out the JP21 DIN adapter.

[NormalFish]

Does Link to the Past swap resolutions during the transition between light/dark world or something? I didn't think the game had any 480i segments.

my screen seemed to lose signal both when using the mirror in the overworld, as well as during the master sword scene. Is this a sync issue I can fix through options or is this standard?

[Gered]

I've not had that issue with Link to the Past when playing on a Framemeister. It's just 240p the entire way through. That's pretty strange, not sure what would be causing that.

[RGB32E]

EDIT: I did find one mention of a similar problem on Atari Age. The individual was running the same setup as me and it looks like the issue came down to the SHVC-010 cable. Possibly bad capacitors. I do not want to crack open the JP21 end and not be able to get my money back. Here is an image of what the OP saw which is identical to what I am seeing.

It's almost guaranteed at this point that the caps in your cable have burst and need to be replaced. Virtually all of the SHVC-010 cables I've opened have leaky caps. Coincidentally I recently replaced the caps in a SHVC-010 recently and that resolved the person's issue. Panasonic 6SEPC220M caps are my favorite caps to use for RGB cables and are actually smaller than the originals!

I have ordered a Solaris Pro RGB cable for SFC to see if that'll fix my issue and at least allow me to rule out the JP21 DIN adapter.

The Solaris/Micomsoft cables should effectively resolve your issue. However, you'll likely have to raise the SYNC_LEVEL setting from 9 to 11-13 or you may encounter dropouts. I suspect this is in part due to the use of luma as sync instead of composite video as sync or CSYNC (3 different sync bearing sources on the SNES multi-AV).

[NormalFish]

I've not had that issue with Link to the Past when playing on a Framemeister. It's just 240p the entire way through. That's pretty strange, not sure what would be causing that.

yeah, I think I would've heard about it, which is why I'm pretty confused at this point.

I'll try messing with sync options a bit today and see if I can resolve it.

[RGB32E]

Right now, the Mini just says "No Input" when I fire up the consoles, so I know I need to be able to increase the "Sync Level" to even get a read, but no dice.

Did you select the RGB input? It's kinda hard to display RGB signals if you don't select the RGB input, especially when SYNC_LEVEL is only available when the RGB input is selected. Enjoy!

[Gered]

I've not had that issue with Link to the Past when playing on a Framemeister. It's just 240p the entire way through. That's pretty strange, not sure what would be causing that.

yeah, I think I would've heard about it, which is why I'm pretty confused at this point.

I'll try messing with sync options a bit today and see if I can resolve it.

Can you reproduce the problem consistently?

[NormalFish]

I've not had that issue with Link to the Past when playing on a Framemeister. It's just 240p the entire way through. That's pretty strange, not sure what would be causing that.

yeah, I think I would've heard about it, which is why I'm pretty confused at this point.

I'll try messing with sync options a bit today and see if I can resolve it.

Can you reproduce the problem consistently?

I'm not currently at home to check, but in my playsession yesterday (from start to mastersword), it dropped every time I transitions from light to dark world or vice versa on the mountain, as well as once during the mastersword cutscene.

[CkRtech]

I'm not currently at home to check, but in my playsession yesterday (from start to mastersword), it dropped every time I transitions from light to dark world or vice versa on the mountain, as well as once during the mastersword cutscene.

Basically whenever the screen is going white, right? Sounds like something that happens when the signal is too strong. I have only experienced it with a CPS2 board without enough resistance to tone down the RGB signals.

You could mess with the sync settings, however I don't think there should be issues unless you are way off from the defaults. Check your cable.

[NormalFish]

I'm not currently at home to check, but in my playsession yesterday (from start to mastersword), it dropped every time I transitions from light to dark world or vice versa on the mountain, as well as once during the mastersword cutscene.

Basically whenever the screen is going white, right? Sounds like something that happens when the signal is too strong. I have only experienced it with a CPS2 board without enough resistance to tone down the RGB signals.

You could mess with the sync settings, however I don't think there should be issues unless you are way off from the defaults. Check your cable.

Yeah, it occured to me that could be the issue. The cable is a csync cable with external audio from retro_console_accessories so I wouldn't expect the cable to have obvious issues, but I can check.
Anyone have experience with this?

[CkRtech]

The cable is a csync cable with external audio from retro_console_accessories

Hmmm...a good source for a cable then...

[NormalFish]

The cable is a csync cable with external audio from retro_console_accessories

Hmmm...a good source for a cable then...

Yeah, exactly. Obviously I can't rule it out, but it would be very strange to me if the cable was the issue.

[NormalFish]

Pardon the double post, but I've fixed my issue.

Here are my findings:
Toggling Sync_Mode to "Off" prevents a total dropout, instead the screen goes blue (I assume it would be black if I set the framemeister's background setting to black. I'm not sure what this means, but it doesn't need to fully resync, as it would with a resolution drop. However, it doesn't totally solve the issue.

Changing Sync_Level to 11 or greater prevents the issue entirely (or, at least as far as my testing up on the mountain -- I don't have a save file that's beaten aghanim). I assume this test should be sufficient, but if anyone finds this issue present I'd be interested in if it is varying severity in different areas.

You only need the Sync_Level setting to be set appropriately, too. Sync_mode doesn't seem to change anything once that level is at 11.

I also checked my cable, and it's definitely working as intended. It even has resisters on the RGB lines. Perhaps it's the sync line that would need a resister to prevent this issue, but regardless.

Cheers!

[Everblue]

Anyone got any Neo Geo AES profiles for a 1080p display? (x4) thanks!