trap15 wrote:BryanM wrote:I've wrestled with this before, but I've come to the conclusion that I would rather see Trump president than her. After an entire year of thought, become very committed to it.
Maybe it would have been a coin flip before all this started, but her campaign has completely and utterly convinced me that she must never ever ever win.
I've also wrestled with this, but I think I'd do the same. She might not hate the gays but hot damn is she basically the worst.
In the 2000 election, Al Gore had an image problem. People thought he came across as stiff and boring. Image consultants were hired, among which if you'll recall was a woman whose job was to teach him how to act like more of an "Alpha Male." It certainly had an effect, he came across as less of a stiff and more of an asshole. Meanwhile, his opponent George Bush jr. was marketed as "the candidate you'd rather drink a beer and watch football with" and when Gore said in debates that the numbers in Bush's promises didn't add up, Bush replied, "Ahh! You're just using fuzzy math!"
Several years later, retired-from-politics Al Gore came out with his documentary/seminar program called "An Inconvenient Truth." People came away from this talking about two things. First was climate change. But second was, "Where was
this Al Gore during the 2000 election?" When talking about this issue, Gore did not come across as a stiff, he came across as downright presidential.
Why? Simple. He was outside the political machine and finally allowed to speak his mind. I'm sure during the 2000 election he wanted to speak his mind and talk about Climate Change, but he was surrounded by a gaggle of campaign managers and political consultants telling him, "No, no, no! Climate Change isn't polling as a top issue right now. Just stick to our script and you can deal with what you actually care about once you're in the Oval office!" He came across as a stiff because he was reading from a script and unlike the God Emperor Ronald Regan, he wasn't trained as an actor.
I remember the last time Hillary Clinton spoke her true mind. It was during an interview where she said,
"I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had tea, but what I decided to do was pursue my profession." In this age of Gamergate outrage exhibitionism, it's easy to forget that once upon a time feminism was about women gaining equal access to the workplace and that in 1992, Hillary Clinton's comments generated a media firestorm of controversy. Cookiegate. How dare she disparage stay-at-home mothers?!! Well the campaign staffers descended on her and a week later she was taking part in a publicized cookie-baking competition. I really don't see her as any more of a phony than Bill, she just lacks his acting chops.
Meanwhile, back in 2000, a young me decided that Gore was a big phony and cast my vote for Ralph Nader (equivalent to abstaining.) Thankfully my state went blue anyway, but
eight years and thousands of flag-draped coffins later, I stopped judging politicians on personality and started voting strategically. Because what you're seeing on the podium
isn't an individual, it's a horse by committee. A bad president can be removed after four years but a bad supreme court justice (or three) are there for life.
(It's also worth mentioning that Nader has blasted Sanders for making the politically expedient choice of running as a Democrat and saying he'll back Hillary if she wins the nomination. Instead of running the same campaign strategy Nader tried and failed with -twice! Sanders and Trump are NOT two sides of the same coin, Sanders is an experienced politician who understands the value of political expediency and that's why he's doing so well!)
Two working class dudes, one black one white, just baked a tray of ten cookies together.
An oligarch walks in and grabs nine cookies for himself.
Then he says to the white dude "Watch out for that black dude, he wants a piece of your cookie!"