Any Cave games in US shore?

ryosnk · Post by **ryosnk** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:15 pm

Are their any Cave games that were brought here (US) for any US system?

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:47 pm

Yanya Caballista and a couple of snowboarding games.

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:35 pm

So they devved a few of the SSX games? That's what I have heard, I assume they no longer do.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:28 pm

I am not aware of any work they have done on SSX, but I know they did Steep Slope Sliders on the Saturn. I have that game and it is pretty good, not something I play all the time, but a decent effort.

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:32 pm

That must be the game/s then.

Bishamon · Post by **Bishamon** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:49 pm

Dylan1CC wrote:That must be the game/s then.

Yep, it was Steep Slope Sliders. Quite an excellent snowboard game, for the time. It was (IMO) better than the Cool Boarders series up to that point.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:05 pm

In short, none of their shooters ever made it.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:15 pm

What arcade games were released there?
Donpachi, Dodonpachi, ESPRade (intl version), and Progear are the only ones that come to mind.

We've all heard the Dodonpachi III rumors... I even saw someone mention it on 2ch.

ryosnk · Post by **ryosnk** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:35 pm

Why aint Cave shmups never released here?

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:05 pm

The same reason most shmups don't make it here, I'd guess...there's just not much of a market for them. In addition, Cave seems to have been doing okay up till now keeping themselves in Japan, so I doubt they'd see much reason to take the risk of shipping stuff elsewhere in hopes of it catching on, when there's not much chance of that happening.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:54 pm

They don't even take risks of relaesing games in Japan. They don't have a publishing department. All the publishing (risk) is done by a third party.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:47 am

Welcome to America. Here's your copy of Microsoft Windows, Grand Theft Auto Gary Indiana, and Gaylo 3: Master Chief's Secret. have a nice day.

OneEyedJack · Post by **OneEyedJack** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:02 am

I can't wait until Gaylo 3 to learn his secret.

It is disappointing that no Cave games have ever made it.

Zweihander · Post by **Zweihander** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:16 am

I'd repost the whole thing someone typed up about "SCEA strongly discourages the US release of any PS2 game which doesn't utilize the console's 3D rendering capabilities"... forgot who posted it tho.

..more like CRAPabilities amirite lols

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:04 am

Cave would allow publishing in the USA of their titles, but their license fee's would put the cost of the games in $50 bracket. Which is just not possible under SCEA's strict policy of 2D is "budget quality software".

It would be more beneficial for Cave or its publisher to make the game region free. But again Sony is the most stringent company out there where region lockout is concerned.

To be honest, Cave don't really know how to cash in on their products.. They neither try or compromise, which imo is just stupid. They could sell 15,000 copies at $20 a pop, even 10,000+ copies at $30 a pop..

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:04 am

And of course Cave supposedly has high licensing fees. Sometimes I wonder whether Cave really doesn't care at all for its non-JP fans, stemming from the fact that in a previous interview, they didn't even seem aware that some from the international community enjoyed their games.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:28 am

In 1995, the Cave arcade Jamma PCB by the name of Donpachi was distributed in the USA in limited numbers by Atlus USA...it's a tad bit different than the orginal Japanese Bios ver. of the name. It appears from time to time on USA eBay but is offered for sale as a "bare-bones" PCB only...I've never seen a full-kit (with original cardboard factory box) of USA Bios ver. of Cave/Atlus Donpachi PCB offered for sale on eBay ever. You would've have had to buy one brand new from Atlus USA themselves if you wanted one new & complete.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:31 am

Ganelon wrote:And of course Cave supposedly has high licensing fees. Sometimes I wonder whether Cave really doesn't care at all for its non-JP fans

Just seems to be a Japaense practice in general. You wouldn't believe how often a new drink comes out, people get attached, and then the fucking thing is gone, never to return. O_o

superhitachi4 · Post by **superhitachi4** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:43 am

ryosnk wrote:Why aint Cave shmups never released here?

The age old question.

Would be nice if they were, wouldn't it?

Alpolio · Post by **Alpolio** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:24 am

You know, if Sony does make the PS3 region free, shmup imports will reach an all time high. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if Gamestop starts stocking imports. Wouldn't it be cool if the first PS3 Cave import ended up on their best seller list?

Skyline · Post by **Skyline** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:28 am

There was an international version of Dangun Feveron, entitled "Fever S.O.S."...

Post by **undamned** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 4:47 pm

Skyline wrote:There was an international version of Dangun Feveron, entitled "Fever S.O.S."...

Word, plus these:

GaijinPunch wrote:Donpachi, Dodonpachi, ESPRade (intl version), and Progear are the only ones that come to mind.

-ud

ryosnk · Post by **ryosnk** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:17 pm

Alpolio wrote:You know, if Sony does make the PS3 region free, shmup imports will reach an all time high. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if Gamestop starts stocking imports. Wouldn't it be cool if the first PS3 Cave import ended up on their best seller list?

That would be sweet!

Alpolio · Post by **Alpolio** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:17 pm

Zweihander wrote:Welcome to America. Here's your copy of Microsoft Windows, Grand Theft Auto Gary Indiana, and Gaylo 3: Master Chief's Secret. have a nice day.

hehe. And people wonder why the Xbox doesn't sell in Japan. You know, if the American & European Xbox had the Japanese PS2 lineup, and the PS2 had the Xbox's, we'd never import games or consoles from Japan.

Texhnolyze · Post by **Texhnolyze** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:43 pm

Alpolio wrote:You know, if Sony does make the PS3 region free, shmup imports will reach an all time high. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if Gamestop starts stocking imports. Wouldn't it be cool if the first PS3 Cave import ended up on their best seller list?

As much as I would like that to happen, shmups will never be best sellers. It's a niche hobby and a dying one at that. But frankly I don't care that shmups are niche. I have enough shmups on various consoles and emulators to last a few life times.

ptoing · Post by **ptoing** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:51 pm

Alpolio wrote:You know, if Sony does make the PS3 region free...

Made me lol

Thunder Force · Post by **Thunder Force** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 5:01 pm

Texhnolyze wrote:shmups will never be best sellers. It's a niche hobby and a dying one at that.

Niche, yes. Dying? Not so sure anymore... we've (arguably) seen an increase in quality releases in the past few years. And now even the west is getting a taste for it again, if you look at the surprise success of Geometry Wars 2...

shmups.system11.org

Any Cave games in US shore?

Any Cave games in US shore?

The Donpachi PCB was USA distributed by Atlus USA...