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system11 wrote:Come on Moss, multiplatform this. The Xbox One sold 52 units last week, and the PS4 sold 24441. No point making a game when there's nobody to buy it.
LOL 52? That's not a typo? Sweet baby jesus is this thing going to be region locked too?
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pegboy wrote:
system11 wrote:I love Raiden, but I would never buy a system to play one game, especially a dead system.
It's dead? Woah.. I'd better sell mine then. Seems a shame when I've been enjoying a lot of games on it and have so many to look forward to.

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Strikers1945guy wrote:
LOL 52? That's not a typo? Sweet baby jesus is this thing going to be region locked too?

Could it even be? Is it an option on XOne?
If so, I'd love to know about that before buying that game while just having a PAL system....
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Xbox One is not region-locked. (It was originally planned but they took it out before its release.)
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Shepardus wrote:Xbox One is not region-locked. (It was originally planned but they took it out before its release.)
Thanks Sony. For real.
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Indeed! :mrgreen:

Very awesome.
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pegboy wrote:
system11 wrote:Come on Moss, multiplatform this. The Xbox One sold 52 units last week, and the PS4 sold 24441. No point making a game when there's nobody to buy it.
They must have some sort of exclusive contract in place for Xbox One, that's the only thing that would make any sense.
  • Right now H2 Interactive still has Caladrius Blaze PS4/Steam on their plate.
  • To give at least a minimal illusion of Xbox One exclusivity on MOSS's behalf, I don't expect H2 Interactive to leak a Raiden V PS4/PC port announcement until around May 2016.
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Shepardus wrote:Xbox One is not region-locked. (It was originally planned but they took it out before its release.)
Well that's a glimmer of good news i suppose.
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The Xbox One sold 52 units last week, and the PS4 sold 24441.
That's fucking amazing....
Damn Tim, you know there are quite a few Americans out there who still lives in tents due to this shitty economy, and you're dropping loads on a single game which only last 20 min. Do you think it's fair? How much did you spend this time?
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I guess I'm the only one here with a nicovideo subscription. Holy shit it's disappointing.
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00:25 < trap15> I just watched the raiden v stream
00:26 < trap15> looks very underwhelming lol
00:26 < trap15> or rather I briefed over it
00:26 < iast> it didn't look great to begin with
00:26 < trap15> there's no bullets and the bullets that are there aren't very fast
00:26 < Macaw> link plz
00:26 < trap15> no horizontal panning
00:26 < trap15> backgrounds are hella boring
00:27 < trap15> boss designs are kinda neat, but... kinda boring
00:27 < trap15> overall it looks just like Raiden IV
00:27 < trap15> visually
00:27 < trap15> http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv249077830
00:27 < trap15> you gotta skip to like 20m for footage
00:28 < trap15> also they have some JP girl with a really annoying voice talking all the time in the stream so you might as well mute it
*smashes eject button*
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trap15 wrote:I guess I'm the only one here with a nicovideo subscription. Holy shit it's disappointing.
Opinions copy-pasted from me on IRC:
00:25 < trap15> I just watched the raiden v stream
00:26 < trap15> looks very underwhelming lol
00:26 < trap15> or rather I briefed over it
00:26 < iast> it didn't look great to begin with
00:26 < trap15> there's no bullets and the bullets that are there aren't very fast
00:26 < Macaw> link plz
00:26 < trap15> no horizontal panning
00:26 < trap15> backgrounds are hella boring
00:27 < trap15> boss designs are kinda neat, but... kinda boring
00:27 < trap15> overall it looks just like Raiden IV
00:27 < trap15> visually
00:27 < trap15> http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv249077830
00:27 < trap15> you gotta skip to like 20m for footage
00:28 < trap15> also they have some JP girl with a really annoying voice talking all the time in the stream so you might as well mute it
*smashes eject button*
Well I don't know how anyone could have expected much more from a Raiden game lol.

Still the Raiden fans will love it I'm sure
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Well, uhh. I am a Raiden fan. And I was very disappointed in what I saw. So take that as you will. The series generally prides (or at least used to) on its attention to details and clever stage design. Neither of which I saw.
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Strikers1945guy wrote:Well I don't know how anyone could have expected much more from a Raiden game lol.

Still the Raiden fans will love it I'm sure
You haven't played the series much, have you?

I'm not the biggest fan of the franchise, but even I know that the series is known for very fast bullets. Among other things.
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trap15 wrote:I guess I'm the only one here with a nicovideo subscription. Holy shit it's disappointing.
Opinions copy-pasted from me on IRC:
00:25 < trap15> I just watched the raiden v stream
00:26 < trap15> looks very underwhelming lol
00:26 < trap15> or rather I briefed over it
00:26 < iast> it didn't look great to begin with
00:26 < trap15> there's no bullets and the bullets that are there aren't very fast
00:26 < Macaw> link plz
00:26 < trap15> no horizontal panning
00:26 < trap15> backgrounds are hella boring
00:27 < trap15> boss designs are kinda neat, but... kinda boring
00:27 < trap15> overall it looks just like Raiden IV
00:27 < trap15> visually
00:27 < trap15> http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv249077830
00:27 < trap15> you gotta skip to like 20m for footage
00:28 < trap15> also they have some JP girl with a really annoying voice talking all the time in the stream so you might as well mute it
*smashes eject button*
Maybe they were playing on an easier difficulty, which explains the lack of bullets. Also, how was the music and character design? Is what you saw enough to make me cancel my pre order?
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Literally couldn't hear the game over squeaky stream host girl. Character design wasn't appalling, but quite far from good. They probably were playing on easy, but that's pretty bad form to try to get people excited about the game...
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trap15 wrote:Literally couldn't hear the game over squeaky stream host girl. Character design wasn't appalling, but quite far from good. They probably were playing on easy, but that's pretty bad form to try to get people excited about the game...
Hopefully MOSS uploads footage to YouTube within the next day or so. I want to see this for myself without the commentary from the hosts. Please tell me they don't have lolis as characters though. About the difficulty, they probably should've played on normal, because showing off a hard difficulty will just turn people away if they are dying constantly as well. But is it really that bad that I should cancel my pre order? I really want the soundtrack though...
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I'm not gonna tell you what to do, but I can say I'm not at all interested in it, especially since it's xbone. None of the characters are lolis or anything, but they're pretty crudely illustrated (and not in the charming way like Ginga Force) and not very interesting.

I'll see if I can use a downloader to scrape the video off nico and re-upload it.
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trap15 wrote:I'm not gonna tell you what to do, but I can say I'm not at all interested in it, especially since it's xbone. None of the characters are lolis or anything, but they're pretty crudely illustrated (and not in the charming way like Ginga Force) and not very interesting.

I'll see if I can use a downloader to scrape the video off nico and re-upload it.
Well, I'll probably double dip once it comes to PS4, but for now I can just play it at my friend's house next door. I'm just stoked to get the soundtrack with it, and this is the first thing I've bought from Japan, so I don't mind too much. Thanks for trying to get the footage though, it's much appreciated!
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Squire Grooktook wrote:
Strikers1945guy wrote:Well I don't know how anyone could have expected much more from a Raiden game lol.

Still the Raiden fans will love it I'm sure
You haven't played the series much, have you?

I'm not the biggest fan of the franchise, but even I know that the series is known for very fast bullets. Among other things.
I meant more on the disappointment end of things.

I own an original Raiden pcb and love that game. Hard as balls in the loops. Raiden DX is also great although I no longer own it.

Raiden III sucked and Raiden IV was alright imo. I didn't have much faith in this so i wasnt surprised by this, was what I meant. In all honesty I thought this would be vapor ware so I am still glad it's coming out.
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Uploaded it to YT ( https://youtu.be/7NyaS-Zu3YQ ), had to just record it with OBS. The quality was really that low on nicovideo though.

Since I had to watch through the whole thing, I guess I've got more to say. Some of the backgrounds are ok, but everything feels really static and dead. The core game seems to be the exact same as Raiden 4, except instead of horizontal panning they just made the screen wider.
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Furry Fox Jet Pilot wrote:
trap15 wrote:Literally couldn't hear the game over squeaky stream host girl. Character design wasn't appalling, but quite far from good. They probably were playing on easy, but that's pretty bad form to try to get people excited about the game...
Hopefully MOSS uploads footage to YouTube within the next day or so. I want to see this for myself without the commentary from the hosts. Please tell me they don't have lolis as characters though. About the difficulty, they probably should've played on normal, because showing off a hard difficulty will just turn people away if they are dying constantly as well. But is it really that bad that I should cancel my pre order? I really want the soundtrack though...
When the guy plays it's on normal, then they put it on very easy for the screeching harpy on the right.

Looks kind of dull, but there's lots of extra crap that should keep more casual players busy.

What's the over/under for first week sales in Japan? 1000? I might go with the under.
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the backgrounds look nice, and I like being able to choose a fighter that isn't slow as molasses
although the stage design looks really uninteresting with enemy patterns not really being engaging, maybe that's because of the lower difficulty.
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NTSC-J wrote:What's the over/under for first week sales in Japan? 1000? I might go with the under.
I'm expecting 500 at most, though I guess that'd be about half the xbone market in JP so maybe not.
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Are you honestly doing all of this vitriol/crying because it's not on the PS4? Calling the vid Raiden V Shit is a really classy move and not at all the actions of someone with a mental age of four.

We really can't be picky about what system these games come out on, I expect the viability of these small companies is already secured by investment funds from the platform holder, The only thing Sony did last generation was make it impossible to publish a shmup on their format until the last few years and even then they sold less than on the system that was being outsold 10/1 in the market.

A very poor indictment on the shmups community and it's no wonder it's a dying genre when this is an example of the 'fans'
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Because surely there's no way someone could be disappointed with what's been shown, and anybody who doesn't like it must be butthurt over some console war (which in turn obviously means they're a PS4 fanboy), right?
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trap15 wrote:
NTSC-J wrote:What's the over/under for first week sales in Japan? 1000? I might go with the under.
I'm expecting 500 at most, though I guess that'd be about half the xbone market in JP so maybe not.
It *should* break 1k....
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Shepardus wrote:Because surely there's no way someone could be disappointed with what's been shown, and anybody who doesn't like it must be butthurt over some console war (which in turn obviously means they're a PS4 fanboy), right?
Ya I mean I'm sorry I'm disappointed in what i saw? If it was indeed easy mode that might be one thing but nothing blew my socks off. Nothing to do with console war crap I just think putting it on a console that sold 52 units last week in Japan is pretty insane.

If this comes out on the PS4 for a cheaper price I can buy and download I'll probably get it. Not a game I want to pay for a physical copy abd get stuck paying taxes just to pick it up from the mailman though.
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Omg those voices. And watching someone reveal a Miclus and not bother picking it up. It's like they made a shmup gore video.

Not that the game looks irredeemably horrible, it may look better with a difficulty tweak and a more skilled player to show off proper special weapon usage. Just that video is really bad.

I think I'm ok with the Caladrius purple laser.
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Jeneki wrote:Owatching someone reveal a Miclus and not bother picking it up
This annoyed me more than I thought it should have.
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