Ibara BlackLabel location test in akihabara Feb 3

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:48 pm

Where did you hear 2.10? Is it on the flyer?

Danmaku-gata had a link to a site (Able Corp I think) that said 02.10.

whitey · Post by **whitey** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:41 am

can anyone translate this....

http://www.cave.co.jp/gameonline/ibarab ... index.html

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:53 am

whitey wrote:can anyone translate this....

http://www.cave.co.jp/gameonline/ibarab ... index.html

Man, that "paradise system" is COOL! Now I'm really looking forward to Arrange mode on the PS2, I think I may like it better than the original ibara game, as it's more of a Cave-style scoring system. Anyway, I'll translate what they say about the "paradise system" for you folks:

-The rank gauge increases when you acquire bombs and medals.
-As the rank gauge increases, the enemies become more fierce.
-When you eliminate the enemy's bullets with a bomb, those bullets turn into roses.
-When you collect those roses, the rank gauge DECREASES.
-The higher the rank gauge is when the bullets change to roses, the higher the multiplier is for the roses.
-When the rank gauge is at MAX level, the roses are worth x300.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:05 am

Hmmm, I guess that explains all the big shiny "x300" things we saw in the Black Label screenshots. The above system sounds interesting...has a bit of Galuda in there, in terms of how you want to "cash in" a high-level rank-o-meter at the right time in order to score well, but also involves some risk, seeing as you have to endure without bombing until the enemies are at their meanest in order to do it. Wonder if that feature will make it into Arrange mode along with the features already covered...

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:11 am

BulletMagnet wrote:Wonder if that feature will make it into Arrange mode along with the features already covered...

Yes, it will. It came from the PS2 Arrange mode. Black label is just an arcade port of Arrange. The "paradise" scoring system was made for PS2 Arrange, and that's the scoring system I just described for black label. Black label=PS2 arrange.

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:27 am

If that's the case, then Ibara's "Arrange" mode is definitely more of a departure from its Arcade mode than Mushi's was to its corresponding mode...the latter basically gave you some extra firepower and an auto-bomb (and a free pass to the true final boss), but left the scoring and such pretty much the same...it seems my earlier guess that Arrange mode in Ibara would pretty much just do "the Mushi thing" is likely incorrect.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:30 am

twe wrote:Yes, it will. It came from the PS2 Arrange mode.

Still not sure if Black = Arrange on PS2. They said about a week ago they've taken many elements from the Arrange mode, but they've not said if it was a direct port or not. I guess we'll find out in... oh, about 6 weeks now.

then Ibara's "Arrange" mode is definitely more of a departure from its Arcade mode than Mushi's was

Mushi's arrange mode was crap. Completely unimaginative. Just a watered down Maniac Mode if you ask me.

EDIT: I take that back. The link in the PS2 thread actually does say specifically it is a reverse port. O_o

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:37 am

GaijinPunch wrote: EDIT: I take that back. The link in the PS2 thread actually does say specifically it is a reverse port. O_o

Yeah, this was posted today (thanks to oxtsu for the link):

http://www.cave.co.jp/event/aou2006/index.php

And it states the 'paradise' scoring system from PS2 arrange was ported over to Black label. So it's confirmed Arrange will have that scoring system, and that's why I'm happy! It sounds like a fun system.

It will also lead to much higher scoring.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:28 am

note -- paradise = baradise (very cheesy pun).

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:44 am

GaijinPunch wrote:note -- paradise = baradise (very cheesy pun).

Right! I forgot about that (and read it wrong on the websites).

ill6 · Post by **ill6** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:42 pm

Is anyone going to buy this?

Do you think that the price will go down in the primary market or will all 100 boards be snapped up?

Does anyone know if the original Ibara is on the board like with DDP DOJ BL.

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:49 pm

twe wrote:Black label=PS2 arrange.

god, i just want to scream.

icycalm · Post by **icycalm** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:13 pm

Out of joy... right?

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:18 pm

most certainly.

Dandy J · Post by **Dandy J** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:25 am

twe wrote: -The rank gauge increases when you acquire bombs and medals.

Hey I have a question. Does picking up weapon powerups still increase rank? Also, does using the 'better' weapons still affect rank or the speed that it increases?

Post by **Icarus** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:33 am

Dandy J wrote:Hey I have a question. Does picking up weapon powerups still increase rank? Also, does using the 'better' weapons still affect rank or the speed that it increases?

Yup. The stronger the subweapon, the faster the rank increases. The Shot is still affected in the same manner as Garegga, in that the number of bullets you fire, and the rapidfire rate increase rank.

I didnt know Rose Medals decrease rank though. I thought they increased rank. And here's me trying to avoid them ^_^ (Unless that's a Black Label/Arranged Mode specific alteration to the original system...)

ill6 · Post by **ill6** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:39 am

So is Black Label exactly the same as Arrange from the PS2 or is this a remix of Arrange (Arrange Arrange!)??

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:33 pm

Icarus wrote:I didnt know Rose Medals decrease rank though. I thought they increased rank. And here's me trying to avoid them ^_^ (Unless that's a Black Label/Arranged Mode specific alteration to the original system...)

while i really have no business saying this, as i haven't played the game, it seems like this is being added for Arrange/BL. considering all the score mechanics they added to make rank extra funtastic, seems like a necessary change to make it more playable.

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:16 pm

ill6 wrote:Is anyone going to buy this?

Do you think that the price will go down in the primary market or will all 100 boards be snapped up?

doesnt look like it.

i cancelled my order,ill wait for the price drop.
actually the news that black label was pretty much PS2 arrange mode really threw me off, i wanted something unique...

SuperPang · Post by **SuperPang** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:32 pm

Me too, but my cab setup floors my PS2 setup and I'd want it one day anyway so I'm still very much looking forward to next week.

zak · Post by **zak** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:03 pm

will anyone be buying the pcb on release?

SuperPang · Post by **SuperPang** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:29 am

Mine just shipped. I think there's a poster too, although it might be reg Ibara.

ill6 · Post by **ill6** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:04 pm

I guess we won't know until the PS2 version ships whether its *exactly* the same or not? At which point it may have sold out!

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:10 pm

SuperPang wrote:Mine just shipped. I think there's a poster too, although it might be reg Ibara.

yours is one of the four from excellent?

i cancelled my order because i have a hunch this will not be sold out, and if it is i dont think it will be popular enough not to go up for sale in the near future.. heres hoping..

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:00 am

ill6 wrote:I guess we won't know until the PS2 version ships whether its *exactly* the same or not?

I think on the "Ibara PS2" thread, one or two people who can read the Japanese on the appropriate site have said that it claims the two to be pretty much exactly the same.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:49 am

"Gyakuishoku" is the word they used, which literally means, "a reverse port". Pretty sure it will play the exact same, but we can probably expect subtle differences a la the Mushi port.

SuperPang · Post by **SuperPang** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:26 am

Like a crisp 29" low res RGB image for starters

ill6 · Post by **ill6** » Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:53 pm

Thats a bit shit... I was going to plonk down for this but if its the same I can't justify it (even though the chances of me buying the PS2 version are slim).... I can only play shooters on my crisp 29" low res cab!

ResOGlas · Post by **ResOGlas** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:23 am

I was at the loke test...

It was one weekend after the loke test for Pink Sweets at the same arcade, H.E.Y., in Akihabara about 3 blocks from the station. It's a completely different game from Ibara as far as the improvements go. Really gives a new meaning to "black label" when directly compared to the Dai-Ou-Jou one. Ibara is a great game, Ibara Black Label is a classic.

ill6 · Post by **ill6** » Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:39 am

Hmmm... Thats a pretty glowing recomendation; maybe a purchase is required!