Well, I try to attack the idea and not the person usually, but...God. Did you see the rest of the thread?Ganelon wrote:Touché.Neon wrote:Zwei is more or less an extreme version of a lot of shmups.commies. They pirate everything on Dreamcast, yet just buy a PS2 (instead of legally buying all those DC games they 'cant afford') for Gradius 5 because Treasure TOTALLY ROXORZ. And then go on about how much better Dreamcast is without knowing what the hell they're talking about, and because evil Sony won't let you steal the software so easily.
Zweihander, you want to keep e-sticking-your-fingers-in-your-ears and yelling, fine, but you've made it abundantly clear that you're a clueless, raving fanboy (and I didn't even get to read half your posts...why is it you keep editing and deleting?). Again, if you are unable to admit being wrong about something, there's no point in people discussing it with you.
Insult Dreamcast here
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Schrodinger's cat wrote:Yeah, "shmup" really sounds like a term a Jewish grandmother would insult you with.
This thread, from the very start, was a joke thread. You're the one who turned it into a bunch of whiny bullshit because you were the only person who took it seriously. So although I agree that this thread is a goddamn waste, it's nobody's fault but your own for being a bitch who had to defend the Dreamcast from being called, and I quote, a "cur."
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Schrodinger's cat wrote:Yeah, "shmup" really sounds like a term a Jewish grandmother would insult you with.
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The Dreamcast was a Mexican wolf boy.
Be attitude for gains:
1) Be praying...
2) Be praying...
3) Be praying...
And a shameless plug for the stuff I'm selling on eBay, if you're into that sort of thing.
1) Be praying...
2) Be praying...
3) Be praying...
And a shameless plug for the stuff I'm selling on eBay, if you're into that sort of thing.
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Wrong.sethsez wrote:HEY SHUT UP NO IT WASN'T IT WAS AN OFF-WHITE VIDEOGAME CONSOLE CREATED BY SEGA THAT WAS RELEASED IN 1999
Dreamcast was a console created by Sega to allow people to play CDRs. Trufax.
Be attitude for gains:
1) Be praying...
2) Be praying...
3) Be praying...
And a shameless plug for the stuff I'm selling on eBay, if you're into that sort of thing.
1) Be praying...
2) Be praying...
3) Be praying...
And a shameless plug for the stuff I'm selling on eBay, if you're into that sort of thing.
Easy now. I quoted both Meatwad and Shake (from the same episode even) while helping a fanboy to flounder in public so this thread is NOT a waste. Plus look at all the facts that have been brought to light here. The N64 is a cartridge based system.sethsez wrote:So although I agree that this thread is a goddamn waste,
This is what the internet was made for.
Pa
The day I first saw it and the day I posted it here are one and the same.sethsez wrote:I hate that owl with the burning fury of a thousand suns. It was funny at one point, but "played out" doesn't begin to describe it now.
Which means, of course, that someone will reply to this post with it.
Or now that I've pointed out the possibility, maybe nobody will reply with it just to spite me.
oh god im so confused
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!!!!
Also, Zweihander, unless you're just kidding, you're doing a lousy job as a fanboy, and I may have to revoke your fanboy license. I'm an old hat at this, so lemme give you a few pointers:
1. Be funny. But not stupid funny. Not like "Hey everybody! This guy is fucktarded!". And not gay funny. Have some wit about you, be more likeable. Everyone is going to hate you for holding firm to your beliefs if you can't at least make them crack a smile... and not a smile at your stupidity. Also, if you're well liked in the thread, some people may even agree with you, and spread the assault on your opinion out a bit! Or, they'll probably do what they always do to me, and just PM me saying "You know jp, you are totally awesome and right, thank you for being my voice."
2. Rabidly fighting an uphill battle has its place, but its never on the first two pages of a thread. The "rabid anger you are all insane" stunt really rarely works, unless you're being very subtle about it, at which point it just pisses your opponents off, and makes them more prone to take the bait and spew off some stupid shit, at which point you can go in for the kill. Hold off on the psycho attack mode until you detect hints of it from your opponents. Then let your own attack creep up and take them by surprise.
3. Hold firm to REASONABLE OPINION BASED BELIEFS! Comparing the graphical prowess of the DC vs. PS2 is silly. Watch:
Bad Example:
THE PS2 CAN'T HANDLE CHEESE! BUT THE DC CAN! ITS CHEESINESS IS UNSURPASSED AND BELOVED BY ALL!
The problem here is that, everyone knows the PS2 can handle cheese. Even the most rabid Sony haters such as myself know it can handle cheese. Would I say cheearuga would be uglier on the PS2? Yes, that argument can be made! But saying the PS2 cannot handle cheese is just silly, and only hurts your stance. Here is a good example:
Good Example:
I'm sure the PS2 can handle cheese, but I like the cheese on the DC much better. The cheese on the PS2 is something I can get virtually anywhere else if I felt like it, while the cheese on the DC is pretty much exclusive to that console. Why get a PS2 when I much prefer the cheese on the DC? It doesn't make sense. If I got a PS2, I would never partake of its cheese, for I would be too busy enjoying the cheese on the DC, therefore, the PS2 would be a waste of my money.
See what I did there? Its a valid point, and only a moron would argue against it. And if such a person appears, just tell them to fuck off, its your money, your time, your opinion, and most importantly, your cheese.
4. Take a page out of George W. Bush's manual and NEVER DEAL WITH ABSOLUTES! As long as you have a position that you can justify in your head that no one else can counter-justify, you're good to go. Can I say:
THE SATURN IS TEH BETTER SYSTEM FOR CAVE SHMUPS!!!! Z0MG!?
No. I cannot. If I gave a shit about Cave I would be forced to concede that the PS2 has the better Cave library. But since I find Cave boring and bland, I can just say "The best thing Cave ever made in most people's eyes, Dodonpachi, is on the Saturn, so why do I need a console filled with Cave shmups? I've got access to their best thank you very much, and I do not care much for it."
See? There's an opinion. I do not like Cave. Therefore I do not care about a console who relies on Cave games for its shmuppiness. But if I wanted to dabble in Cave, I could say I have two of their best on MY console.
5. Talk in circles. Doing this:
"The PS2 cannot handle Ikaruga and Bangai-O"
is silly. People will eat that up and spit it out. And then piss on it. No no no! If you wanted that untrue statement to work better, you should have done this:
"Why get the PS2 when the DC is just now showing off its true 2D power? I mean, Mars Matrix had way more bullets than most Cave games
as far as I can tell, and Treasure even decided AGAINST a PS2 port of Ikaruga because they said the PS2 would have too much trouble running it[1]. In fact, the PS2 would probably have a lot of trouble getting the massive missile attacks in Bangai-O to even run properly. I mean, the DC drops to less than a frame per second when you do a massive attack, heh, with Sony's shoddy system designs I imagine the PS2 would down right explode in such a case! I mean honestly, the DC could do in 3 years what its just now taking the PS2 5 years to do! Imagine what if the DC was still alive![2] It would probably be smashing the PS2 with its 2D power! Just look at Border Down and Under Defeat. Those games are gorgeous! Tons of bullets too! And no slow down...."
*I could continue, but this isn't my fight... soooo... *
[1] Random facts against the console you hate are always good! Especially from people like Treasure! This annoys the people who openly hate Treasure but go to sleep with visages of Merrys dancing around their head.
[2] "Imagine if the DC was still alive" is the most powerful thing a DC fanboy has... USE IT YOU FOOL!
6. NEVER DELETE YOUR POSTS!!! NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER DELETE YOUR DAMN POSTS!!!! FOR FUCKS SAKE MAN! That shows weakness, weakness leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to the darkside. Or something. Stand by what you said! You may be stark raving mad, but who cares!? You've got an opinion, and you live in that opinion's world!
And there's a lot more than that. But I'm not giving away all my tricks. Just a nice little starter lesson. Now be on your way padawan.
1. Be funny. But not stupid funny. Not like "Hey everybody! This guy is fucktarded!". And not gay funny. Have some wit about you, be more likeable. Everyone is going to hate you for holding firm to your beliefs if you can't at least make them crack a smile... and not a smile at your stupidity. Also, if you're well liked in the thread, some people may even agree with you, and spread the assault on your opinion out a bit! Or, they'll probably do what they always do to me, and just PM me saying "You know jp, you are totally awesome and right, thank you for being my voice."
2. Rabidly fighting an uphill battle has its place, but its never on the first two pages of a thread. The "rabid anger you are all insane" stunt really rarely works, unless you're being very subtle about it, at which point it just pisses your opponents off, and makes them more prone to take the bait and spew off some stupid shit, at which point you can go in for the kill. Hold off on the psycho attack mode until you detect hints of it from your opponents. Then let your own attack creep up and take them by surprise.
3. Hold firm to REASONABLE OPINION BASED BELIEFS! Comparing the graphical prowess of the DC vs. PS2 is silly. Watch:
Bad Example:
THE PS2 CAN'T HANDLE CHEESE! BUT THE DC CAN! ITS CHEESINESS IS UNSURPASSED AND BELOVED BY ALL!
The problem here is that, everyone knows the PS2 can handle cheese. Even the most rabid Sony haters such as myself know it can handle cheese. Would I say cheearuga would be uglier on the PS2? Yes, that argument can be made! But saying the PS2 cannot handle cheese is just silly, and only hurts your stance. Here is a good example:
Good Example:
I'm sure the PS2 can handle cheese, but I like the cheese on the DC much better. The cheese on the PS2 is something I can get virtually anywhere else if I felt like it, while the cheese on the DC is pretty much exclusive to that console. Why get a PS2 when I much prefer the cheese on the DC? It doesn't make sense. If I got a PS2, I would never partake of its cheese, for I would be too busy enjoying the cheese on the DC, therefore, the PS2 would be a waste of my money.
See what I did there? Its a valid point, and only a moron would argue against it. And if such a person appears, just tell them to fuck off, its your money, your time, your opinion, and most importantly, your cheese.
4. Take a page out of George W. Bush's manual and NEVER DEAL WITH ABSOLUTES! As long as you have a position that you can justify in your head that no one else can counter-justify, you're good to go. Can I say:
THE SATURN IS TEH BETTER SYSTEM FOR CAVE SHMUPS!!!! Z0MG!?
No. I cannot. If I gave a shit about Cave I would be forced to concede that the PS2 has the better Cave library. But since I find Cave boring and bland, I can just say "The best thing Cave ever made in most people's eyes, Dodonpachi, is on the Saturn, so why do I need a console filled with Cave shmups? I've got access to their best thank you very much, and I do not care much for it."
See? There's an opinion. I do not like Cave. Therefore I do not care about a console who relies on Cave games for its shmuppiness. But if I wanted to dabble in Cave, I could say I have two of their best on MY console.
5. Talk in circles. Doing this:
"The PS2 cannot handle Ikaruga and Bangai-O"
is silly. People will eat that up and spit it out. And then piss on it. No no no! If you wanted that untrue statement to work better, you should have done this:
"Why get the PS2 when the DC is just now showing off its true 2D power? I mean, Mars Matrix had way more bullets than most Cave games
as far as I can tell, and Treasure even decided AGAINST a PS2 port of Ikaruga because they said the PS2 would have too much trouble running it[1]. In fact, the PS2 would probably have a lot of trouble getting the massive missile attacks in Bangai-O to even run properly. I mean, the DC drops to less than a frame per second when you do a massive attack, heh, with Sony's shoddy system designs I imagine the PS2 would down right explode in such a case! I mean honestly, the DC could do in 3 years what its just now taking the PS2 5 years to do! Imagine what if the DC was still alive![2] It would probably be smashing the PS2 with its 2D power! Just look at Border Down and Under Defeat. Those games are gorgeous! Tons of bullets too! And no slow down...."
*I could continue, but this isn't my fight... soooo... *
[1] Random facts against the console you hate are always good! Especially from people like Treasure! This annoys the people who openly hate Treasure but go to sleep with visages of Merrys dancing around their head.
[2] "Imagine if the DC was still alive" is the most powerful thing a DC fanboy has... USE IT YOU FOOL!
6. NEVER DELETE YOUR POSTS!!! NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER DELETE YOUR DAMN POSTS!!!! FOR FUCKS SAKE MAN! That shows weakness, weakness leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to the darkside. Or something. Stand by what you said! You may be stark raving mad, but who cares!? You've got an opinion, and you live in that opinion's world!
And there's a lot more than that. But I'm not giving away all my tricks. Just a nice little starter lesson. Now be on your way padawan.
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!!!!
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Schrodinger's cat wrote:Yeah, "shmup" really sounds like a term a Jewish grandmother would insult you with.
Actually, don't use this for the simple reason that, as Ikaruga was a Naomi game, the argument can very, very easily be made that the PS2 could handle Ikaruga were it developed for it, but porting from Naomi to the PS2 is a bitch and a half due to the vastly different architechtures. A native game (which Ika on the DC might as well be) is almost always better than its port, even if the second piece of hardware is more powerful than the first. This is especially true if the two pieces of hardware are relatively close to each other, where you can't just brute force your way through differences in architechture.jp wrote:Treasure even decided AGAINST a PS2 port of Ikaruga because they said the PS2 would have too much trouble running it[1].
[1] Random facts against the console you hate are always good! Especially from people like Treasure! This annoys the people who openly hate Treasure but go to sleep with visages of Merrys dancing around their head.
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That's it, jp wins the Internet. May your intelligent form of fanboyness flourish and be a lesson to the blind followers of a brand name.
No matter how good a game is, somebody will always hate it. No matter how bad a game is, somebody will always love it.
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F*ck y,all I love my Dreamcast. Just kidding about the first part but seriosly why all the hatin on the cast it has one of my favirit shmup controllers and you can see the game your playing on the memory and I find the disks to be the most durable and the online support was awesome. It is dead but so is Genny and I still play with here and Nessy. I am fanboy but I,m not to upset the dissin.
PS.All those pictures you guy,s posted made me laugh(Multiplayer action the owl the guy ejecting out of the jet)
PS.All those pictures you guy,s posted made me laugh(Multiplayer action the owl the guy ejecting out of the jet)
Yes, but only the route with the crappy enigmatic anticlimatic ending. More will be revealed on next playing...jp wrote:Now the question is... did I 1CC the Internet? *ponders*Ghegs wrote:That's it, jp wins the Internet. May your intelligent form of fanboyness flourish and be a lesson to the blind followers of a brand name.
I had,nt heard the fraises rapscallion or fucktard till I jioned this forum I imagine these frazes were quickly come with so I got one of my own hope you guy,s like it, Dicklet dick as in mean jerk let in reference to piglet meaning small in annoying. I also agree with fuck concils I play games(amen) statement.PaCrappa wrote:Because it is a rapscallion.Dale wrote: but seriosly why all the hatin on the cast
Pa
nZero wrote:Yes, but only the route with the crappy enigmatic anticlimatic ending. More will be revealed on next playing...jp wrote:Now the question is... did I 1CC the Internet? *ponders*Ghegs wrote:That's it, jp wins the Internet. May your intelligent form of fanboyness flourish and be a lesson to the blind followers of a brand name.
*Puts in more quarters*
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!!!!
Please please please find some spell checking program (and use it). I was never the best at English or grammar in school, but I have just enough self-respect to try.Dale wrote: I had,nt heard the fraises rapscallion or fucktard till I jioned this forum I imagine these frazes were quickly come with so I got one of my own hope you guy,s like it, Dicklet dick as in mean jerk let in reference to piglet meaning small in annoying. I also agree with fuck concils I play games(amen) statement.
I really just embarassed myself, how do you use spellcheck in this forum?Rob wrote:Please please please find some spell checking program (and use it). I was never the best at English or grammar in school, but I have just enough self-respect to try.Dale wrote: I had,nt heard the fraises rapscallion or fucktard till I jioned this forum I imagine these frazes were quickly come with so I got one of my own hope you guy,s like it, Dicklet dick as in mean jerk let in reference to piglet meaning small in annoying. I also agree with fuck concils I play games(amen) statement.
I think you'll have to use something off-site like http://www.spellcheck.net/
A fan is a fan. I'm a fan of Wanderlei Silva. That sounds levelheaded enough, no? How about this? I'm a fan of the SNES. It is my favorite system. Nothing wrong there. Last but not least; the Dreamcast is fab. No need to argue about anything. Because I'm just a fan and I haven't put forth anything that could/should/would create an argument. I know that very well and if some interwebber should happen to want an argument, I'm gonna be like "Who is this choad?" and go to another thread or just do something else. Maybe even play Pop n Twinbee, just for kicks.Ganelon wrote:Everything he mentioned in his Fanboy FAQ...the fan who prevents you from being able to make an argument against his controlled passion.
As soon as you tack the suffix "boy" onto the word "fan", you have left the realm of rational thought. A fanboy is someone who when told a thread is a joke, that all comments by the thread starter are jokes and that folks shouldn't be so damn indignant about the honor of inanimate consumer goods, flies into a spasticated rage and defends (because it's always a fight) his assailed opinions with a bunch of meaningless junk and opinion-corroborating nonfactual hearsay. Ad nauseum to the point where all sane onlookers wonder when this dude escaped from the nuthatch.
There is no such thing as a good fanboy. Just like self proclaimed otakus, I'd be wary of anyone who would call themself a fanboy. That's a weakass self image to maintain.
Pa