Gameboy Advance RGB NTSC

donhonk · Post by **donhonk** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:09 am

Heh, yeah I just always wanted one. And turns out XRGB will work with the LL version. Im just dumb. You just gotta make sure your connection is solid / not dirty, thats why the cube insta rebooted before when I launched the DOL. Now it works and its great!

BazookaBen · Post by **BazookaBen** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:23 am

Cool deal.

Anyway, I still hope somebody tests this with a Freesync monitor one day (might need linedoubler and/or rgb transcoder).

Einzelherz · Post by **Einzelherz** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:51 am

I got it working today, on DVD-RWs, no less (need to get better media so I can turn the laser down). I don't seem to be able to access any of the settings or menu stuff; I only have it load up and play. I'm using the low latency iso.

bobrocks95 · Post by **bobrocks95** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:54 am

Options on the low-lag versions can only be set when loading via the network or maybe Swiss. Was there anything in particular you wanted to change? You can't do any zooming or borders or anything with the low-lag versions I know.

Einzelherz · Post by **Einzelherz** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:57 pm

I think zoom was the only thing I was curious about. The motion looked fantastic, though I didn't try anything high speed. Some of the audio seemed lopsided, with the left channel significantly louder, but that was also with a modified rom. Overall I'm happy!

bobrocks95 · Post by **bobrocks95** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:18 pm

Yeah, the regular version has a couple of nice adjustments, the zoom looks pretty nice because there's no filtering applied over it like I think the Gameboy Player does. But the motion interpolation looks pretty terrible imo.

Einzelherz · Post by **Einzelherz** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:50 pm

Does the 0715 update add anything useful? I didn't quite understand what extrems posted, specifically if I'm using the ISO version on a disc.

bobrocks95 · Post by **bobrocks95** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:04 pm

The GameBoy Player detection issue may refer to games thinking they're connected to the GBP? I'll test later today.

BazookaBen · Post by **BazookaBen** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:29 pm

bobrocks95 wrote:The GameBoy Player detection issue may refer to games thinking they're connected to the GBP? I'll test later today.

Yeah, would love to hear back from you. My GCN is in storage at the moment, but I remember that when playing Drill Dozer, the cart would be rumbling instead of the controller, which isn't supposed to be the case in a Game Boy Player.

bobrocks95 · Post by **bobrocks95** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:28 pm

Doesn't seem to have fixed that particular problem, at least with Mario & Luigi- it still won't let me turn on the rumble feature. I'll ask over on gc-forever, curious what it is if not that.

nesboy43 · Post by **nesboy43** » Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:11 pm

I emailed Datel a while back and they finally replied. The US version of the SD Media Launcher has been officially discontinued and they have no more on hand. Looks like I'm gonna have to track one down somewhere else.

BazookaBen · Post by **BazookaBen** » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:29 pm

nesboy43 wrote:I emailed Datel a while back and they finally replied. The US version of the SD Media Launcher has been officially discontinued and they have no more on hand. Looks like I'm gonna have to track one down somewhere else.

That's pretty sad. Glad I got one at the last second though. Maybe somebody else will step up and start making something like it again.

Einzelherz · Post by **Einzelherz** » Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:27 pm

nesboy43 wrote:I emailed Datel a while back and they finally replied. The US version of the SD Media Launcher has been officially discontinued and they have no more on hand. Looks like I'm gonna have to track one down somewhere else.

Which is why I just chipped mine instead. It was cheaper too, but maybe not as versatile.

bobrocks95 · Post by **bobrocks95** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:51 pm

Rumble was added to the Gameboy Interface, but it appears to be in the regular version only, not the low-lag versions.

Einzelherz · Post by **Einzelherz** » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:42 pm

I'm having trouble with it recognizing controllers. Most of the time it won't work with a wave bird and sometimes it won't see a standard wired one. I haven't tried the GBA adapter yet, but iirc it's not supported.

bobrocks95 · Post by **bobrocks95** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 5:19 pm

Which version are you using, the low lag? I'll try a wavebird myself since I haven't yet, but I haven't noticed any dropped inputs with a wired controller.

Einzelherz · Post by **Einzelherz** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 9:05 pm

Low lag, two revisions ago. May's release, iirc. And the issue is at boot. I get to my game's screen and the controller doesn't do anything.

Smashbro29 · Post by **Smashbro29** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 9:44 pm

Only was able to do some cursory reading and I'm too excited so I just gotta know.

How's the lag on the ultra low version?

Does it work with the XRGB mini via component?

If not, which do?

Can I get 240p?

How do I load it? Link to this reader I supposedly need?

BazookaBen · Post by **BazookaBen** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 9:46 pm

Smashbro29 wrote:Only was able to do some cursory reading and I'm too excited so I just gotta know.

Thread's only 10 pages long. Take your Ritalin!

Smashbro29 · Post by **Smashbro29** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 9:47 pm

BazookaBen wrote:
Smashbro29 wrote:Only was able to do some cursory reading and I'm too excited so I just gotta know.
Thread's only 10 pages long. Take your Ritalin!

No!

I've been looking for a solution like this for years!

Smashbro29 · Post by **Smashbro29** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:01 pm

donhonk wrote:Heh, yeah I just always wanted one. And turns out XRGB will work with the LL version. Im just dumb. You just gotta make sure your connection is solid / not dirty, thats why the cube insta rebooted before when I launched the DOL. Now it works and its great!

LL only? So ULL has no hope?

Also this works to get it going right? http://www.amazon.com/Action-Replay-Gam ... r+gamecube

bobrocks95 · Post by **bobrocks95** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:36 pm

Einzelherz wrote:Low lag, two revisions ago. May's release, iirc. And the issue is at boot. I get to my game's screen and the controller doesn't do anything.

Hmm, you're using a disc so it's not that easy to update, right? Does a press of the reset button help? That just resets the GBI, not the system.

Smashbro29 wrote:Only was able to do some cursory reading and I'm too excited so I just gotta know.

How's the lag on the ultra low version?

Does it work with the XRGB mini via component?

If not, which do?

Can I get 240p?

How do I load it? Link to this reader I supposedly need?

Nearly every question you have is answered in the initial post over on gc-forever, and everything else has been covered in the thread already, so you won't get more than a sentence out of me for each one.

< 1 frame
Should, may not like the refresh rate
240p is the default on the low-lag versions
An Action Replay + SD Card adapter of some kind, or a chipped or otherwise modded gamecube

Smashbro29 wrote:
donhonk wrote:Heh, yeah I just always wanted one. And turns out XRGB will work with the LL version. Im just dumb. You just gotta make sure your connection is solid / not dirty, thats why the cube insta rebooted before when I launched the DOL. Now it works and its great!
LL only? So ULL has no hope?

Also this works to get it going right? http://www.amazon.com/Action-Replay-Gam ... r+gamecube

You'd need a USB Gecko or similar to go with that. The Action Replay may be able to boot it from a disc though.

Smashbro29 · Post by **Smashbro29** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:09 pm

Yes, fine I jumped the gun posting. I get it.

I have the disc but I'd hate to invest in AR and not have it work.

bobrocks95 · Post by **bobrocks95** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:30 pm

Smashbro29 wrote:Yes, fine I jumped the gun posting. I get it.

I have the disc but I'd hate to invest in AR and not have it work.

http://www.gc-forever.com/wiki/index.ph ... g_Homebrew <- Probably the most comprehensive source on booting homebrew on Gamecube. Looks like you need an SD Gecko of some kind regardless, but I don't know for sure.

Einzelherz · Post by **Einzelherz** » Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:40 pm

bobrocks95 wrote:
Einzelherz wrote:Low lag, two revisions ago. May's release, iirc. And the issue is at boot. I get to my game's screen and the controller doesn't do anything.
Hmm, you're using a disc so it's not that easy to update, right? Does a press of the reset button help? That just resets the GBI, not the system.

I am, but I haven't spent much time troubleshooting. I mentioned it here to see if it was common. I'll check with other retail discs too, since I really haven't played the GCN much since I bought it.

Smashbro29 · Post by **Smashbro29** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:32 am

BazookaBen wrote:
bobrocks95 wrote: (make sure you get the disc for NTSC Gamecubes)
I just ordered this: http://us.codejunkies.com/products/gcnw ... 00589.aspx

Is it weird that the URL keeps changing to uk for me?

BazookaBen · Post by **BazookaBen** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 1:27 am

Smashbro29 wrote:
BazookaBen wrote:
bobrocks95 wrote: (make sure you get the disc for NTSC Gamecubes)
I just ordered this: http://us.codejunkies.com/products/gcnw ... 00589.aspx
Is it weird that the URL keeps changing to uk for me?

The US version (and probably the other regions) has been discontinued. They ran out of stock a couple months ago. Very bad timing considering these low-latency players just hit the internet.

Einzelherz · Post by **Einzelherz** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 12:27 pm

I'd actually say it's good timing for them. The new player might have cleared out what dusty inventory they had.

Smashbro29 · Post by **Smashbro29** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:13 pm

So which options are available that aren't prohibitively expensive?

Also recently watched a video claiming ULL will play nice on the Framemeister. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maT2M68z3vk He claims that's how he captured the video.

I wonder if we'll get fullscreen scale 16:9 ULL mode someday. That would be the best.

12345 · Post by **12345** » Mon Aug 03, 2015 6:35 pm

1. The cheapest you can get is by buying a XenoGC and using a WiikeySD (or knockoff). You could also burn an Iso instead of using a key, provided you have got the modchip.
2. The ULL version works perfectly with the framemeister. I have to admit I could use some help on adjusting the sync level more stably though. Any recommendations?
3. I figured you can get up to 6x scale by setting the ZOOM_SIZE to 75. Even scanlines work at this setting (if you adjust V_WIDTH as well) and you only have to live with small boarders.

Hope this helps.

BTW:
@blizzz
If you read this: Thanks for requesting the GBA-controller mode on gc-forever

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