Arcade Shmups..top longest and best games..help

kaicooper · Post by **kaicooper** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:58 pm

hi there

i need great ARCADE shmups but very long ..i mean it takes longer time to defeat it
and best games..and also i prefer to have great soundtracks too

thanx

CStarFlare · Post by **CStarFlare** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:59 pm

Pink Sweets

Shepardus · Post by **Shepardus** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:05 pm

"longer time to defeat it" as in how long a single session is (Radiant Silvergun, any multi-loop game), or how long it'll take for you to get good enough to beat the game (aka how hard the game is)?

For the best shmups, you might be interested in the results of the annual poll we have here. If you're a beginner, check out BulletMagnet's articles on RacketBoy for some recommendations.

Post by **system11** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:00 pm

Tatsujin-Oh - the thread.

Emuser · Post by **Emuser** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:04 pm

Tatsujin-Oh

Hope you don't die of boredom before reaching stage 5.

thetricker24 · Post by **thetricker24** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:24 pm

saidaioujou

Obiwanshinobi · Post by **Obiwanshinobi** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:54 pm

Isn't Varth long for a shmup? Amazing presentation anyways.
Doesn't Psyvariar need to be played well in order to access certain stages? That might keep you busy for a while. Hint - in the PAL PS2 version, 60 Hz needs to be enabled in particular game's options menu.

copy-paster · Post by **copy-paster** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:04 am

Batrider: Advanced Course.

Oh, almost forgot... Gradius III

Shepardus · Post by **Shepardus** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:37 am

copy-paster wrote:Batrider: Advanced Course.

Only if you successfully trigger and milk a lot of bosses, which is a lot easier said than done. It's actually pretty short otherwise (significantly shorter than Battle Garegga for example), but it offers many options to extend the length of the game.

Oh, and I can't believe it's taken this long for anybody to mention Darius Gaiden Extra (2P side). If long is what you're looking for it doesn't get much better than that.

iconoclast · Post by **iconoclast** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:00 pm

Mushihimesama Futari 1.01 Ultra
Dodonpachi Daioujou (White)
Ketsui Ura

Those should keep you busy for a while. Trying to defeat Inbachi in Saidaioujou will keep you busy for the rest of your life.

JBC · Post by **JBC** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:53 pm

I don't really know how long a playthrough of it is, but I always remember Viper: Phase 1 as feeling like it had a perfect run time in arcades. This effect is lost on any game when playing through MAME in the comfort of your own home. However, with Viper I have some great memories of sweaty palms & forehead by the time I'm allowed to relinquish focus & let go of those controls.

I get a similar vibe from Vimana. Both may be short as hell, but time is completely lost on me when I'm 'in the zone'.

Strikers1945guy · Post by **Strikers1945guy** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:57 pm

VARTH
Pink Sweets extended mode

copy-paster · Post by **copy-paster** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:43 pm

Shepardus wrote:
copy-paster wrote:Batrider: Advanced Course.
Only if you successfully trigger and milk a lot of bosses, which is a lot easier said than done. It's actually pretty short otherwise (significantly shorter than Battle Garegga for example), but it offers many options to extend the length of the game.

Oh, and I can't believe it's taken this long for anybody to mention Darius Gaiden Extra (2P side). If long is what you're looking for it doesn't get much better than that.

Yeah, it also depends on your player selection like if you're select the Daisakusen/Garegga players, there's an extra bosses which makes the game a little bit longer.

And DG Extra 2P side is quite fun, I once made it through Zone H and died after Titanic Lance gets fuck me up.

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:21 pm

Pink Sweets extended mode

This is like 3 hours or what?

kaicooper · Post by **kaicooper** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:44 pm

BIG thanx all of u and appreciate ur help

i have alot of games now but i figure out
there's alot of games r short like 1 hour to 44 mintues only

thats why i like Longer games to enjoy Solo or Coop

is there any surreal strange weired shmups games? (good one)

Shepardus · Post by **Shepardus** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:40 pm

1 hour isn't short at all for a shmup, you try focusing on a challenging game that long without completely losing your mind by the end. They're short compared to many "modern" games because they're designed to be played in a single sitting and because of their intensity. Beyond about an hour and a half you're likely to start encountering either tedium or the limits of your endurance.

For your other question, try Hellsinker or maybe Akashicverse -Malicious Wake-? Maybe Metal Black (random staring cat in the background is pretty surreal, right?)

copy-paster · Post by **copy-paster** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:04 am

kaicooper wrote: is there any surreal strange weired shmups games? (good one)

Shepardus wrote:Maybe Metal Black (random staring cat in the background is pretty surreal, right?)

Cho Aniki take the cake for this

kaicooper · Post by **kaicooper** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:50 am

copy-paster wrote:
kaicooper wrote: is there any surreal strange weired shmups games? (good one)

Shepardus wrote:Maybe Metal Black (random staring cat in the background is pretty surreal, right?)
Cho Aniki take the cake for this

ooooh that cat in the middle..creepy

thanx man..is there any dark atmospheric shmups ?

Shepardus · Post by **Shepardus** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:57 am

Battle Garegga

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:16 am

Maybe you are looking for this topic: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=44313

Your originally intended question is getting a little out of hand, isn't it?

BareKnuckleRoo · Post by **BareKnuckleRoo** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:19 am

kaicooper wrote:i have alot of games now but i figure out
there's alot of games r short like 1 hour to 44 mintues only

If you're credit feeding an arcade game, this will be the case. If you're actually playing them to win on one credit, they will last you far, far longer.

DEL · Post by **DEL** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:33 am

Gradius V at 1hr 20mins per loop and if you get good at it you can make a credit last a week and crash it out on the 16th loop.

KAI · Post by **KAI** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:33 pm

Wrong genre. Asking for a long shmup is like asking for a short RPG.

Lobinden · Post by **Lobinden** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:18 pm

In terms of actual game length, RefleX is pretty long, and is mostly made up of boss fights.

And Gradius V is considered to be "too long" by some people, but that's already been mentioned.

Lobinden · Post by **Lobinden** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:19 pm

KAI wrote:Wrong genre. Asking for a long shmup is like asking for a short RPG.

Short rpgs are often the better ones, just look at the Ys series for example.

I agree with what you said in general terms though.

SuperDeadite · Post by **SuperDeadite** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:09 pm

1944: The Bore Master

Obiwanshinobi · Post by **Obiwanshinobi** » Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:23 am

What's "RPG" about Ys?

pegboy · Post by **pegboy** » Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:48 am

Gradius V is the answer, it has infinite loops and each one lasts around 70 minutes. And it's actually good too.

Obiwanshinobi · Post by **Obiwanshinobi** » Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:19 am

Can't remember that much of the soundtrack, though, except for Poison of Snake. Luckily, it's not completely creedit-feedable out of the box.
If you like Gradius V and can handle the Wii controls (gamepad is no good in this case), S&P2 is a lot like it.

Bear in mind neither is "arcade" (coin-op), hence the length. Usually to last for over an hour without continuing in the arcades, the game must loop/never end/be infinitely milkable.

Now, if you wanna taste how it's like to "beat" an arcade shooter credit-feeding all the way through only to end up feeling fed up yourself, Metal Slug 3 will merrily take you for a ride. Chances are you'll find it overkill.

Skykid · Post by **Skykid** » Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:46 am

Obiwanshinobi wrote:What's "RPG" about Ys?

It's a role playing game.

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