Revolution pay to download but one bit of good news...

[sethsez]

If they do charge I hope it is reasonable. In general I think they are, other times they have had a brainfart, IE the classic GBA series.

It wasn't a brainfart, because

.....I still bought Castlevaina though

If you'll buy it regardless, why should Nintendo care how you feel about it?

[superhitachi4]

Is Nintendo that thick-headed to think that people will actually pay $20 for games that are almost a decade old? I can't even see people paying $3 for NES games.

I bet people will. I wouldn't, but I think lots of people would gladly pay that.

I would (and have) as long as the game's a classic, but not for a freaking ROM haha

[sethsez]

People are clearly more than willing to pay $1 for a 128 bitrate MP3 or AAC song. They paid $20 for single NES games in droves. Why do people think $3 for a legitimate download of an NES game is too much? Is there anything that would please people here aside from Nintendo just releasing their entire back catalog for free, which makes no goddamn sense for them to do?

[Vexorg]

Talk to the people who bought the $20 NES re-releases on GBA.

And while you'tre at it, talk to the people who resulted in the Classic NES rerelease of Metroid selling more copies than Zero Mission, which had the exact same thing as an unlockable, plus a whole new game.

[Andi]

Is there anything that would please people here aside from Nintendo just releasing their entire back catalog for free, which makes no goddamn sense for them to do?

Nope, there isn't. I want that shit for free.

[Neon]

People are clearly more than willing to pay $1 for a 128 bitrate MP3 or AAC song. They paid $20 for single NES games in droves. Why do people think $3 for a legitimate download of an NES game is too much? Is there anything that would please people here aside from Nintendo just releasing their entire back catalog for free, which makes no goddamn sense for them to do?

I think it's just people smelling bullshit, really. It's highly likely the revolution emulators won't be as great as the PC ones (PC already has it beat in terms of resolution and netplay right off the bat, as far as NES and SNES go at least, and I doubt they'll implement the improvements emu's have over the original consoles (eg savestates), which are the reasons to emulate anyways) and there's the limited library, most of the best games for NES and SNES are missing from that list.

Check the trading station, ebay, or playasia if you think I have a problem paying for games, the problem is the general shittiness of how this is going to work. I realize it's not entirely their fault and I'm not bashing them, I'm sure they'll make plenty of money.

[BrianC]

I think it's just people smelling bullshit, really. It's highly likely the revolution emulators won't be as great as the PC ones (PC already has it beat in terms of resolution and netplay right off the bat, as far as NES and SNES go at least, and I doubt they'll implement the improvements emu's have over the original consoles (eg savestates), which are the reasons to emulate anyways) and there's the limited library, most of the best games for NES and SNES are missing from that list.

Many NES games aren't meant to be played with savestates, but the games in the classic NES series that did have passwords offered saving. If the game had a saving option, it would most likely be saved to memory card. IMO, savestates are a non-issue.

[Neon]

I think it's just people smelling bullshit, really. It's highly likely the revolution emulators won't be as great as the PC ones (PC already has it beat in terms of resolution and netplay right off the bat, as far as NES and SNES go at least, and I doubt they'll implement the improvements emu's have over the original consoles (eg savestates), which are the reasons to emulate anyways) and there's the limited library, most of the best games for NES and SNES are missing from that list.

Many NES games aren't meant to be played with savestates, but the games in the classic NES series that did have passwords offered saving. If the game had a saving option, it would most likely be saved to memory card. IMO, savestates are a non-issue.

It's doubtless you'll buy a Revolution and tout that they're worse, but not that much worse, anyways. Just like ya did with the SNES World Warrior port and anything else Nintendo related someone else might remotely consider mediocre.

I'm not trying to attack you, but I think you lack perspective. Good videogames exist outside of Nintendo consoles. May I recommend a Japanese Saturn or PSX.

[JBC]

Well now we know how concerned they were about stopping emulation. Big leap Nin, big leap - and this is coming from a Nintendo lover.

Nintendo wasn't concerned about emulation, they were concerned about people illegally downloading roms. They don't give a shit about people playing homebrew GBA games in emus or whatever.

[sethsez]

Well now we know how concerned they were about stopping emulation. Big leap Nin, big leap - and this is coming from a Nintendo lover.

Nintendo wasn't concerned about emulation, they were concerned about people illegally downloading roms. They don't give a shit about people playing homebrew GBA games in emus or whatever.

So do you actually have anything of substance to say? This isn't GameFAQs.

Nintendo never cared about emulation by itself. The Zelda games on the GC are emulated. The NES games in Animal Crossing were emulated. The NES games on the GBA are emulated. If you think that the "war against emulation" actually had anything to do with emulation then you're amazingly naive, and if you think Nintendo using emulation themselves is new then you haven't been paying attention to their releases over the past few years.

[JBC]

Seth... I think the same thing as you but you wanted to be technicle about it. That's why i'm giving you another...

[BrianC]

I think it's just people smelling bullshit, really. It's highly likely the revolution emulators won't be as great as the PC ones (PC already has it beat in terms of resolution and netplay right off the bat, as far as NES and SNES go at least, and I doubt they'll implement the improvements emu's have over the original consoles (eg savestates), which are the reasons to emulate anyways) and there's the limited library, most of the best games for NES and SNES are missing from that list.

Many NES games aren't meant to be played with savestates, but the games in the classic NES series that did have passwords offered saving. If the game had a saving option, it would most likely be saved to memory card. IMO, savestates are a non-issue.

It's doubtless you'll buy a Revolution and tout that they're worse, but not that much worse, anyways. Just like ya did with the SNES World Warrior port and anything else Nintendo related someone else might remotely consider mediocre.

I'm not trying to attack you, but I think you lack perspective. Good videogames exist outside of Nintendo consoles. May I recommend a Japanese Saturn or PSX.

You may not be trying to attack me, but you are insulting me anyway by making untrue assumptions about me. I never said that the SNES World Warrior was the best version or anything close to that. All I said was that it was a good port (And I didn't say it becuase it was on SNES either. I would have said the same thing no matter what system it was on. It's definatly worlds better than the Amiga, C64, and older PC version of it, though the PSX, Saturn, arcade, and PS2 ones blow it out of the water).

BTW, I have the Genesis version of Street Fighter II Special Champion Edition and I already said countless times that I like it better than Turbo for SNES (which I already like better than WW). I even initially traded in the SNES Turbo becuase the Genesis one is the same game only better. I only got the SNES one again becuase I found it for dirt cheap (like 25 or 50 cents cheap).

I have an import disc for PSX and a couple of imports, so please stop talking to me like I don't even own a 2600 (which I do own BTW). BTW, I have a PS2, a PSX, a Dreamcast, a TG-16, and tons other non-Nintendo systems. Please stop making ignorant assumptions about me.

BTW, I think savestates are just as unnecessary for other systems too, not just NES. I didn't even make any comments about emulation quality and just talked about save states, but you still accuse me of not playing PSX imports (haven't you even read any of the millions of topics where I talked about Twinbee Yahho or Detana Twinbee? Guess which system I have them for?). I don't really expect the revolution emulation to be on par with PC, but I'm not expecting crappy emulation either. However, I'm not thrilled with the pricing system shown in the servey and I hope it's not final. Most of the games on the list, I have. S&P is the main one I'm interested in and I might just get it for N64 (and if I get a Revolution, it would be for new games anyway). All I commented on was the savestates and you didn't reply to me, you just replied at me and told me to play games on non-Nintendo systems, despite all the times I stated that I already do so.

[sethsez]

Seth... I think the same thing as you but you wanted to be technicle about it. That's why i'm giving you another...

So... what was the point of "Big leap Nin, big leap" (actually, what was the point of your post at all? What you were getting at was pretty vague)? You say I'm being "technicle" but considering I think what Nintendo is doing is a great thing and you're acting like it's awful, I'm willing to bet that no, we do not think the same thing.

[Neo Rasa]

So I hear there's a new system called the Revolution coming out that lets you download some old games...

[superhitachi4]

So I hear there's a new system called the Revolution coming out that lets you download some old games...

haha Yes, I hear it's backward compatible with SNES, and lets you play Saturn games for some reason. *starts rumors, and runs*

[sethsez]

I heard that each unit comes pre-packed with 5 random NES games, to promote their game download system. Unfortunately, you can only save 5 games on the internal memory at once due to how it's arranged (a bit like a PS1 memory card), so if you want to download other games you'll have to replace the ones it comes with, or buy an extra card.

[Neon]

Just got this via PM:

Revolution Topic (link) Did you read my reply in this topic? I'm not thrilled that you talk to me like all I play is Nintendo games. FYI, I own a PSX, PS2, DC, GG, TG-16, and Atari 2600. Some of my favorite shmups are on PSX. I have both Gradius Gaiden and Detana Twinbee Yahho for Playstation and a PS-X-Change 2 to play them.

Look at my list of shmups in this topic, among them, you'll notice a decent selection of Genesis, PS2, and PSX games. BTW, I actually traded in my SNES Street Fighter II Turbo becuase I like the Genesis Special Champion Edition better. I did get the SNES version back, but only becuase I found it for dirt cheap (like 25 or 50 cents cheap). I even traded away my SNES Street Fighter Alpha 2 for less than it's probably worth (I almost parted with it for free, but my dad talked me out of it).

BTW, I feel that you have a crappy attitude towards games in general. Dissing the Saturn SFA3 becuase of minor sound issues? You talk about how good Donpachi Saturn is despite how many say it's not a good port, but you go all over me becuase I said that Street Fighter II World Warrior is a good port (it is an outdated port, but I still like it, but I probably won't be touching it now that I have Capcom Classics Collection for PS2). Also, you keep talking about emulation as an alternative to the real systems, when using copyrighted roms is illegal and not always 100% to the original. Anyway, I don't have to agree with you on every single point to be valid.

I did defend the SNES sound, but I would do that for any system where a game has good sound (heck, I would even defend the C64 Alcon's or the GG Puzzle Bobble's sound in a heartbeat since it they sound so darn fine) and I'm quite fond of the Genesis sound chip and the sound in Street Fighter II Special Champion Edition, despite how the sound in that game gets dissed.

Ordinarily I wouldn't publicly post a private message from somebody but wow, I'm just speechless.

This is very, very disturbing. Brian, you need to lighten up. You care about things too much. And possibly get counseling. Please don't kill me.

[JBC]

^^^ lol - you should see the one i got from Seth.

[BrianC]

Just got this via PM:

Revolution Topic (link) Did you read my reply in this topic? I'm not thrilled that you talk to me like all I play is Nintendo games. FYI, I own a PSX, PS2, DC, GG, TG-16, and Atari 2600. Some of my favorite shmups are on PSX. I have both Gradius Gaiden and Detana Twinbee Yahho for Playstation and a PS-X-Change 2 to play them.

Look at my list of shmups in this topic, among them, you'll notice a decent selection of Genesis, PS2, and PSX games. BTW, I actually traded in my SNES Street Fighter II Turbo becuase I like the Genesis Special Champion Edition better. I did get the SNES version back, but only becuase I found it for dirt cheap (like 25 or 50 cents cheap). I even traded away my SNES Street Fighter Alpha 2 for less than it's probably worth (I almost parted with it for free, but my dad talked me out of it).

BTW, I feel that you have a crappy attitude towards games in general. Dissing the Saturn SFA3 becuase of minor sound issues? You talk about how good Donpachi Saturn is despite how many say it's not a good port, but you go all over me becuase I said that Street Fighter II World Warrior is a good port (it is an outdated port, but I still like it, but I probably won't be touching it now that I have Capcom Classics Collection for PS2). Also, you keep talking about emulation as an alternative to the real systems, when using copyrighted roms is illegal and not always 100% to the original. Anyway, I don't have to agree with you on every single point to be valid.

I did defend the SNES sound, but I would do that for any system where a game has good sound (heck, I would even defend the C64 Alcon's or the GG Puzzle Bobble's sound in a heartbeat since it they sound so darn fine) and I'm quite fond of the Genesis sound chip and the sound in Street Fighter II Special Champion Edition, despite how the sound in that game gets dissed.

Ordinarily I wouldn't publicly post a private message from somebody but wow, I'm just speechless.

This is very, very disturbing. Brian, you need to lighten up. You care about things too much. And possibly get counseling. Please don't kill me.

Telling me to lighten up? You PUBLICLY made suggestions that I'm a Nintendo fanboy and ignored every attempt I made to tell you other wise. When someone PUBLICLY tells a forum that someone should play more then just games on Nintendo sytems when they already play games on other systems too, it's natural to feel insulted. You NEVER directly answer my posts and talk at me instead of to me. You ignored me every time I told you that I already have PSX imports and still tell THE WHOLE FORUM that I don't have any.

I have a right to be pissed. Neon, did you even notice that I didn't curse or call you names in that post? My tone may have been harsh, but I didn't post that to insult you. I'm just getting tired of your crappy attitude on this forum and the way you talk down to me.

I said what I said about the Saturn Donpachi becuase you get on me for liking certian games that you feel nobody should like despite how you like games like the Saturn Donpachi that many people dislike. I wasn't saying that there is anything wrong with liking that port, just that it's hypocritical how you have no problem with liking some games that many people dislike and still pick on me for saying that World Warrior is a good port.

I said what I said about the sound becuase I wanted to show that I don't discriminate when it comes to sound. Also, when I said I would defend the games, I did not mean that I would disrespect other people's opinions to do it. All I meant was that I'm not baised towards the SNES's sound.

BTW, PM's are meant to be private. I made that PM becuase you keep implying incorrect things about me in PUBLIC and about things that have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC. There is no good reason why you couldn't have said why you care so much about save states instead of posting incorrect assumptions about me. There is also no good reason why you couldn't have directly replied to my PM instead of posting it in public and making light of it.

[Neon]

Look man, don't you realize how creepy all that is? You're remembering shit from like months ago and talking about it like it's a big deal. You have a lot of anger in you. I posted it because it literally frightened me.

'Cursing' doesn't really mean what you think it does, I just use it in everyday speech since I'm not superstitious.

I think if all this matters that much to you, you're having problems outside the forum. Let's talk more via PM.

[BrianC]

Look man, don't you realize how creepy all that is? You're remembering shit from like months ago and talking about it like it's a big deal. You have a lot of anger in you. I posted it because it literally frightened me.

'Cursing' doesn't really mean what you think it does, I just use it in everyday speech since I'm not superstitious.

I think if all this matters that much to you, you're having problems outside the forum. Let's talk more via PM.

I have a lot of anger because this happens every time I reply to one of your posts. Seriously, how hard is it to talk to me instead of at me? BTW, you are the one who brought up Street Fighter II World Warrior again. The last time I told you that I have some PSX imports wasn't too long ago either. Also, I told you time and time again that I play games on Genesis, TG-16, PSX, PS2, etc. and even posted about games for these systems on this very forum countless times and you still come in and say something like "there are games on other systems besides Nintendo". Now you're getting on my case becuase I'm bringing up old stuff, despite how you are bring up things that have no business being brought up and could have been avoided using a simple search engine on this site.

BTW, I also brought up things again becuase of the stuff you keep ignoring in the topics you bring up again. In that very SFIIWW topic that you brought up, I bashed the SNES Raiden Trad, defended the Genesis Street Fighter II Special Champion edition, and even pointed out how innaccurate the screenshots of the Genesis version that ST Dragon posted were. BTW, the main reason I defended SFII World Warrior in the first place was becuase someone lumped in it with Raiden Trad. If that Raiden Trad comparison wasn't made, I would have kept my mouth shut.

[sethsez]

^^^ lol - you should see the one i got from Seth.

The one where I said "why are you being a dick because I didn't understand what you meant", you mean?

[jp]

Neon likes the Saturn version of a game?


Fuck, I guess the end IS near. Especially considering the SFA3 bidness.

Saturn rev is inferior indeed.

[Neon]

Neon likes the Saturn version of a game?


Fuck, I guess the end IS near. Especially considering the SFA3 bidness.

Saturn rev is inferior indeed.

I like the Saturn versions of several games. Provided that they're the best versions, of course.

SS SFA3 is worse than the arcade version in a few ways, yes. Loads and downsampling.

It is silly of me to take a rational perspective, though. We should all engage in middle-school-level console wars, with one side being unholy and having no good games whatsoever.

Saturn has Battle Garegga and Layer Section. PSX has Raiden DX and G. Darius. They're both must-own. Get bent everyone.

[jp]

Neon likes the Saturn version of a game?


Fuck, I guess the end IS near. Especially considering the SFA3 bidness.

Saturn rev is inferior indeed.

I like the Saturn versions of several games. Provided that they're the best versions, of course.

SS SFA3 is worse than the arcade version in a few ways, yes. Loads and downsampling.

It is silly of me to take a rational perspective, though. We should all engage in middle-school-level console wars, with one side being unholy and having no good games whatsoever.

Saturn has Battle Garegga and Layer Section. PSX has Raiden DX and G. Darius. They're both must-own. Get bent everyone.

You're so cheesy.

And I thought you/they were talking about SFA3 home versions... obviously the arcade is going to be better because... its the arcade version! ZOMGWTFBBQ!?!?!

And actually, I don't even think this thread had anything to do with the Saturn/PS1... I think towards the end there it mainly focused around you pissing off BrianC and telling him he is a Nintendo fanboy or something. At least, thats what I gathered from it. So yes, get bent and what not, console wars, rah rah, cheese is yummy.

Good day sir.



























I SAID GOOD DAY!

[Neon]

And I thought you/they were talking about SFA3 home versions... obviously the arcade is going to be better because... its the arcade version! ZOMGWTFBBQ!?!?!

Well, it was touted as better than the arcade wherever I read about it. It is in some areas. Still disappointing given the massive hype.

Cheesy > Obnoxious

[jp]

Cheesy > Obnoxious

And you're a little of both. Such a well rounded young man.

[Dylan1CC]

Good day sir.



























I SAID GOOD DAY!

Fes: By the way, I do NOT wish you to have a good day!

[Minzoku]

I keep seeing this topic, expecting the first post to say, "I just saved a lot of money on my car insurance."


STUPID GEICO!