) and still need to read up on it. 
You should try to look past the softcore porn stuff; Ibara is an incredible game. Not playing because there are underwear shots is like not playing the original Zelda because the graphics are dated. Just look past the silly graphics and enjoy the spectacular game that Ibara is. You'll regret passing this one up.Dylan1CC wrote:Ya know, the more I think about it, between the added raunch and the added rank, I think i will pass on Ibara. The game itself looks gorgeous but the characters' sado maso style (and somewhat odd theme of men vs. women) really is a turn off for me now personally. I also have to wonder what Jun's take on the character art would be. Did Jun ever need to resort to raunch or Psikyo style antics in order to design aesthetically appealing shmup heroines/villians?
Also, Battle Garegga is one of my favorite shmups ever which is why I was so pumped for Ibara. But I still haven't even scratched the surface of properly figuring out Garegga's rank calculator (beyond shooting the flamingos and staying away from a power up now and then
I think instead I'm gonna pool my money toward a new PCB, either ESPRaDe or RF II. Progear is currently the only PCB I have right now and I need a change up in the old rig.
The DOJ character designer was your apprentice, wasn't he?Dylan1CC wrote:I also have to wonder what Jun's take on the character art would be. Did Jun ever need to resort to raunch or Psikyo style antics in order to design aesthetically appealing shmup heroines/villians?
Curl up for awhile with the Garegga ST thread; it'll take you awhile to get through everything, but as you know, this game requires a ludicrous amount of "cramming" to get the hang of, outside of even actually playing the thing. Also, I'd suggest watching a superplay of it (if you have the Saturn port, you can unlock one or two of 'em right on the disc); I don't like using superplays, but out of near-exasperation I eventually watched one of Garegga, and got a better impression of the playstyle that it demands from you. Of course, as I said earlier, hopefully Ibara's "rank-o-meter" will make things a bit easier for that game.Dylan1CC wrote:But I still haven't even scratched the surface of properly figuring out Garegga's rank calculator
Yeah, now they'll accuse Cave of being SO uncreative that they had to steal Raizing's stuff.Ganelon wrote:Well, nobody could accuse Cave of having games with too similar gameplay after Ibara.
I've always said that Raizing was the more creative of the two.BulletMagnet wrote:Yeah, now they'll accuse Cave of being SO uncreative that they had to steal Raizing's stuff.
Any self-confessed Garegga fan should not miss this release, regardless of their standpoint on cartoon panty-shots, and girls in... revealing... clothing. The game is fantastic.Dylan1CC wrote:Ya know, the more I think about it, between the added raunch and the added rank, I think i will pass on Ibara. ... Also, Battle Garegga is one of my favorite shmups ever which is why I was so pumped for Ibara.
ha Interesting. "Mother in law."Valgar wrote:The DOJ character designer was your apprentice, wasn't he?Dylan1CC wrote:I also have to wonder what Jun's take on the character art would be. Did Jun ever need to resort to raunch or Psikyo style antics in order to design aesthetically appealing shmup heroines/villians?
Inoue: Yes. I spoke to not just him, but almost all the designers as I quit, like I was their mother-in-law. I gave them advice like "make the next one sexier than before!" and "you have to emphasize the chest!" It's a "sexy" Dodonpachi, isn't it? (laughs).
He's a bit more loli style, and has become more prevelant in his manga. One can assume he'd go that route for future game characters.Dylan1CC wrote: Did Jun ever need to resort to raunch or Psikyo style antics in order to design aesthetically appealing shmup heroines/villians?
RegalSin wrote:New PowerPuff Girls. They all have evil pornstart eyelashes.
Huh? The US side are the nazi-esque ones, w/ their no 2D bullshit. Unregulated violence is also more commonplace in Japan. They're just not starting to see they need to prevent elementary school kids from buying GTA.velocity7 wrote:You know Sony. They have pretty damn strict content regulation; particularly in Japan.
RegalSin wrote:New PowerPuff Girls. They all have evil pornstart eyelashes.
Yeah, there was some random scandalousness in one/some of the Otogi mangas I had. Damn shame, imo.GaijinPunch wrote:He's a bit more loli style, and has become more prevelant in his manga. One can assume he'd go that route for future game characters.Dylan1CC wrote: Did Jun ever need to resort to raunch or Psikyo style antics in order to design aesthetically appealing shmup heroines/villians?
You'll have to forgive me as I am vastly unfamiliar with his non-Cave work. Thanks for the added info/clarification.GaijinPunch wrote:He's a bit more loli style, and has become more prevelant in his manga. One can assume he'd go that route for future game characters.Dylan1CC wrote: Did Jun ever need to resort to raunch or Psikyo style antics in order to design aesthetically appealing shmup heroines/villians?
I meant regarding hentai. ^^;GaijinPunch wrote:Huh? The US side are the nazi-esque ones, w/ their no 2D bullshit. Unregulated violence is also more commonplace in Japan. They're just not starting to see they need to prevent elementary school kids from buying GTA.velocity7 wrote:You know Sony. They have pretty damn strict content regulation; particularly in Japan.
Well, here's a good example. It's definitely not the majority of his work, but undeniably there.Dylan1CC wrote:You'll have to forgive me as I am vastly unfamiliar with his non-Cave work. Thanks for the added info/clarification.
RegalSin wrote:New PowerPuff Girls. They all have evil pornstart eyelashes.
Holy 'dirty old japanese men,' Batman. That is wrong on every level.GaijinPunch wrote:Well, here's a good example. It's definitely not the majority of his work, but undeniably there.Dylan1CC wrote:You'll have to forgive me as I am vastly unfamiliar with his non-Cave work. Thanks for the added info/clarification.
Actually, I think you might be on to something...check out this art of Meidi I found on GPara:jiji wrote:(sliding further off topic...) Here's another example of some similar only-on-PS2 censorship that was done, presumably in the name of getting a lower CERO rating: http://www.f3.dion.ne.jp/~halt-si/lang2005a.htm
I'm not sure...I believe that ESPGaluda got a "12" rating, and I don't believe that anything therein was censored, though it had some blood and somewhat racy outfits in there...if anyone knows otherwise, feel free to correct me.Dylan1CC wrote:Re: SJE censorship/ratings ect., does cero 12 probably mean parts of the game itself and not just the pre-order illustrations were censored too? Or does a cero 12 rating relate to blood like the ESRB "teen" rating?
That's because Lace is technically "legal" while Meidi isn't. ^_-BulletMagnet wrote:Increased crotch coverage, it'd seem, has made an appearance here as well. Though, oddly enough, they didn't seem to have bothered to do the same to Lace.
