best version of r-type i & ii

[dave4shmups]

^ Millions have followed my suggestions and I've worded all of 'em similarly. Now, they enjoy a better life.

If you say so, I'm sick of arguing about this anyhow. Let's call it a truce.

@elvis, I gave R-Type III a go for the first time on an emulator this morning, and had a great time with it! I haven't tried out any of the other force types, except for the "normal" one. I didn't even make it to the first boss, though!

I kind of like PS1 R-Types, but I'd just rather play Super R-Types (or, now, R-Type III!) instead. And I love Master System R-Type! Has anyone here gotten to the secret/bonus level?

[Neo Rasa]

Heh good old Hardcore Gaming 101, I still try to talk Kurt Kalata now and then into adding a Ghouls N Ghosts section. .

I owe him like $10 from a deal that got me Ninja Five-O and Megami Tensei, if you want I'll withold it until he puts up a GnG page.

[dave4shmups]

Heh good old Hardcore Gaming 101, I still try to talk Kurt Kalata now and then into adding a Ghouls N Ghosts section.

Now as for R-Type games, the PSX version is pretty much the nirvana of R-Type ports, too bad they didn't include a sound test (or am I missing something there, thank goodness for M1 players), it's just perfect.

R-Type MSX I haven't put a whole lot of time into, but I'm guessing it has jerky scrolling, much like Nemesis. R-Type SMS I find quite entertaining considering at that time that's the only R-Type that ever graced a Sega system.

Super R-Type SNES was good, but a lack of checkpoints and slowdown mar an otherwise good game.

R-Type III SNES, there's a game I definitely will Ebay one day, as I consider that game pretty much one of the best early 16 bit shooters of all time, the GBA port was just a mess (yet amazingly I mentioned it on a CV IRC channel and one kid wants to purchase the GBA port and send it to me, and I'd have to send him cash, meh), but I need to take a short break from Ebay or I'll run myself broke.

R-Type Delta is spiffy, just took me getting used to the polygon look of it, R-Type Final I need to seriously put time into, got a ton of ships still to unlock.

Leo on the other hand I find it odd it never saw a home port on any system, it would be nice if the R-Type games were put on a super collection (R-Type 1,2,3, Delta and Leo at least) and released worldwide, but I'm grasping at air there.

Yeah, I've got a lot of ships to unlock as well in Final! I guess slowdown in ports of R-Type games doesn't bother me as much as it would if the series had ever been fast-paced. I wouldn't say you're "grasping at air" with a huge R-Type collection. I seriously think that Gradius Portable may change the way shmup compilations are put together; that we won't just have two games anymore in one comp.

Still, even though I like Leo, I'd just as soon see a home port of Lethal Thunder.

[professor ganson]

Is it only me that thinks R-Type 3 sucks? Feels boring, empty and weird to me, even the force-less Leo feels more R-Type than 3.

It's not just you. Leo is the only R-Type game I haven't played, and I would say R-Type 3 is the only one I really disliked. But then again I played the GBA version. That game was just frustrating and boring. Blah.

The GBA version really does suck. Try and play the SNES version if you can, even if it's on an emulator or something just to check it out.

Thanks, I will-- if I can ever find a copy.

[ccovell]

Now as for R-Type games, the PSX version is pretty much the nirvana of R-Type ports, too bad they didn't include a sound test (or am I missing something there, thank goodness for M1 players), it's just perfect.

I thought the PSX version had a sound test... maybe it's my bad memory too. Anyway, get PSXMC. http://homepage2.nifty.com/~mkb/
It searches for audio/video streams in PSX games, and plays/converts them. Works great for many of my favourite games.

[SAM]

So yeah, I think R-Types is the best version to get. Plus it's like the same price as R-Type Complete CD, but you get two games.

Cool, I've played R-types for PS1 and I thought it was great. Liked it so much that I wanted a mint copy rather than the scratched up one I found in the local shop. I just wanted to make sure there weren't better versions out there before I hunt down a copy. Thanks!

Nothing bet the orginal PCBs. Besides that the PS1 port and MAME is the second best alturnative.

I also noticed that it that bydo dies usually after 2 openings when I play my arcade version, where in the psx version it seems to take quite a bit more punishment, at least 3 openings and full charged beam has to be added into the mix before it blows up. interesting.

Also the PS1 version (60fps) run faster than the actual PCB game (~57.5fps) for about 5%. In short the PS1 version is a little harder than the PCB.

BTW, new copy the best version of PS1 R-Types is still avaliable at amazon.com.jp. You should be able to found a new copy cheap around the net.

[Neo Rasa]

Holy shit, I just walked into the store I work at and some gut traded in an immaculate R-Type Delta. MINE.

I almost ordered it online a couple of days ago.

R-Type/R-Type II sound test? Just download the OSTs off of the official home page:

http://www.irem.co.jp/e/game/r/

[Bloodreign]

Neo Rasa thanks for that link, the music is mine.

[PooshhMao]

Threads like these make me go question mark.
The best version to play is the one on MAME.
No you're wrong - it is.
Blah blah emulation hollow experience blah stealing blah.

[UnscathedFlyingObject]

Threads like these make me go question mark.
The best version to play is the one on MAME.
No you're wrong - it is.
Blah blah emulation hollow experience blah stealing blah.

No, you're wrong.

The best version to play is on PCB.

[Shatterhand]

Did R-Type 2 got any home port except the Amiga one ?

http://hol.abime.net/1289

I remember when I got my Amiga as a Xmas gift, I spent the whole Xmas night playing this game

I havent played the arcade version all that much, so I cant compare it, but the Amiga game is just awesome.

[CIT]

Did R-Type 2 got any home port except the Amiga one?

Yes, Super R-Type on SNES (Although it's a pretty shitty port. I can tell the Amiga graphics are much more faithful to the arcade just by looking at those screenshots) and R-Types on Playstation has an arcade perfect port of R-Type II.

[BrianC]

Did R-Type 2 got any home port except the Amiga one?

Yes, Super R-Type on SNES (Although it's a pretty shitty port. I can tell the Amiga graphics are much more faithful to the arcade just by looking at those screenshots) and R-Types on Playstation has an arcade perfect port of R-Type II.

There's also the GB b/w port of R-Type II (Europe and Japan only?) and the GBC version of it in R-Type DX. BTW, I think these were already mentioned in this very topic. The GB port isn't anywhere near as good as the PSX port, but it's pretty good IMO.

[Marc]

Seven Force Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:21 am Post subject:

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Shatterhand wrote:
Did R-Type 2 got any home port except the Amiga one?


Yes, Super R-Type on SNES (Although it's a pretty shitty port. I can tell the Amiga graphics are much more faithful to the arcade just by looking at those screenshots) and R-Types on Playstation has an arcade perfect port of R-Type II.

Wasn't really supposed to be a port though was it? And trust me, the slow down and flicker on Super is no worse than the flicker and jerkiness of 2 on Amiga. And the Amiga version lost a hell of a lot of colour and detail.

[SteevTee]

Did R-Type 2 got any home port except the Amiga one ?

The ST had a port too, good gfx (identical to the Amiga, i believe), but slow as hell. Also, I seem to remember that the music for levels 3/4 was swapped over.

[Turrican]

Wasn't really supposed to be a port though was it? And trust me, the slow down and flicker on Super is no worse than the flicker and jerkiness of 2 on Amiga. And the Amiga version lost a hell of a lot of colour and detail.

Perhaps, but it also gained a lot in SOUND. I remember playing R-Types for the first time and thinking "What? Arcade original sounds so bad? Gimme back my amiga!"

[Neo Rasa]

Are the Amiga tracks available to listen to anywhere?
I wouldn't feel bad about downloading them since the OSTs for the first two PCBs are freely downloadable anyway from Irem itself.

That GBC R-Type DX is great stuff. More ports should have the options it has.

[it290]

Try this page:

(Link to copyright-infringing material removed - Ghegs)

First two titles on there. You will need a plugin capable of playing some exotic MOD formats; Personally I use the UADE plugin for XMMS (which actually emulates an Amiga), but I think this one should work too:

http://winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=2266

[ccovell]

http://www.deliplayer.com

Deliplayer for Windows is great for playing all those obscure Amiga MOD formats. Get it!

And if you have an Amiga already, DeliTracker is great too!

p.s. About R-Type 2 Arcade's music: yeah, it's pretty bad. Irem's arcade music of that era has a terrible sound to it. Quite different from the great FM music from other companies at the time.

[Alpolio]

Hmmm... I always thought that R-Types on the PSX was the best version. Now According to Wikipedia, the arcade ran at 384x256 and I know that the PSX usually runs games at 320x240. So I don't see how it can be arcade perfect, but it sure looks like it is.

I played the Amiga version once, back when Factor 5 (it's developer) was giving it away as a free download on their web page. It was a very nice version. The collision detection was on target and the audio was great, but the games graphics just didn't seem to have as much detail as the PSX version. Probably because the Amiga runs games at 320x200.

[professor ganson]

I found a brand new copy of the PS1 Jap R-types for $28 shipped. Thanks much for the feedback. Without it, I would likely have gone for one of the PCE versions.

[J-Manic]

I found a brand new copy of the PS1 Jap R-types for $28 shipped.

$28 shipped?! Damn, that's hella cheap. Man, I got mine for $35 used, but in good condition, at a Game Exchange store. But it's the US version.

[Alpolio]

$28 shipped?! Damn, that's hella cheap. Man, I got mine for $35 used, but in good condition, at a Game Exchange store. But it's the US version.

$28 to $35?!? Damn!!! I only gave $15 for my US version, but that was 2 years ago too. I think that the most that I ever paid for a used PSX shmup was $24.95 for Einhander from a lucky trip to GameXchange last winter. It's in excellent condition and I got the instructions too. I guess that I live a charmed shmuping life.

[professor ganson]

Yeah, I paid $9.99 for the first copy I bought in Gamestop. It wad disc-only and pretty scratched up. I enjoyed the game enough to try to upgrade.

[MJR]

Hmmm... I always thought that R-Types on the PSX was the best version. Now According to Wikipedia, the arcade ran at 384x256 and I know that the PSX usually runs games at 320x240. So I don't see how it can be arcade perfect, but it sure looks like it is.

I played the Amiga version once, back when Factor 5 (it's developer) was giving it away as a free download on their web page. It was a very nice version. The collision detection was on target and the audio was great, but the games graphics just didn't seem to have as much detail as the PSX version. Probably because the Amiga runs games at 320x200.

As said somewhere else, the psx version solved this by adding vertical scrolling/transparent score display. It is no suprise to anyone if I say that the original PCB is the best version, Mame is on par with the psx version (yeah I consider mame 'a version' though it runs the same code because it feels so different when you play it)

psx version is good but too hard ( I got the japanese one );
amiga version is very playable but lacks too much stuff;
c64 version has the best music on all of these,
PC engine version is great but it's split onto two.
gameboy versions are.. ehh..

for the sequels; I like delta and final the best. Final has flaws but so much good stuff in it that I can forgive the flaws.

I never liked Rtype III much, when I saw the rotating walls section, it just felt so cheap that I didn't want to play it again. I liked it more when I tried it with emulation, but..well..I got to give it another go. I just feel that I cannot totally trash a game that many people love so much..

[Sly Cherry Chunks]

I'm only familiar with the pirated version of the Amiga R-Type II port that was in circulation when I was a kid. Was this the final version of the game or an unfinished version? I thought the sound on the Amiga version was horrible - mainly because of the lack of sound effects.

[MJR]

many games in c64 and amiga had the choice of either music or sound effects but not both. if programmers were lazy or deadlines too harsh, they just could not figure out a way to overcome how to do it all on 4 channels.

[Sly Cherry Chunks]

Thats a shame as both C64 and Amiga versions of the first R-Type game handled both music and sfx fine. (with the C64 soundtrack being the greatest music heard in any game ever IMO)

Makes you wonder what it would be like if Factor 5 or Kaiko had handled the port of R-Type II instead.

[Shatterhand]

Man.. I don't remember now.. but if R-Type 2 on Amiga didn't had sound effects, I NEVER noticed, it never bugged me at all. The music indeed is AWESOME.

[Herr Schatten]

(with the C64 soundtrack being the greatest music heard in any game ever IMO)

If you like it that much, you should check out the new SIDology medley by Machinae Supremacy. There's some R-Type included, and that part of the track is clearly based on the C64 rendition of the music.

Awesome stuff. Get it here: http://www.hubnester.com/