One Year Later - XBOX One or PS4 for Shooters?

[Unadan360]

I'm getting ready to dive into one of these consoles - are their any upcoming shooters for each system that I should consider before deciding which one to purchase? The only game I'm aware of that I care about at all is Raiden 5 for Xbox. Anything else on the horizon? Which system would you go with?

[leadwing85]

I'm getting ready to dive into one of these consoles - are their any upcoming shooters for each system that I should consider before deciding which one to purchase? The only game I'm aware of that I care about at all is Raiden 5 for Xbox. Anything else on the horizon? Which system would you go with?

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2014/08/ ... up_for_ps4 im personally looking forward to this I guess, don't have either xbox1 or ps4. waiting to see the stgs that get released for each respectively before I buy one....and for the price to drop lol

[Pretas]

Right now neither of them are worth buying at all, but the XONE currently has a much stronger release schedule with Raiden V, Natsuki Chronicle, and Shooting Love Trilogy.

All the PS4 has is Resogun (an overblown tech demo for particle effects that gets old after thirty minutes), a quick and dirty port of Shin-en's fun but short-lived arena euroshmup Nano Assault Neo, a handful of upcoming Touhou doujin games of varying quality, and M2/Iuchi's mysterious "Ubusana" project of which nothing is known.

Note that all PS4 AND Xbox One games to date are region free.

[Strikers1945guy]

For the pricetag they command? neither. I would invest in aome sort of retro console you dont currently own and grab some shooters for it. DC, Saturn, Megadrive, anything really would be better for the money. Just my 2cents.

[Xyga]

A new PC or a fancy high-res monitor + emulators, is a better investment right now.

EDIT; or an rgb-modded DUO.

[Blackbird]

It's still kind of early to decide which console you want for shmups, to be honest. In the last generation, the X360 became the preferred console for shmups, but that might change because the Xbox One console had a disastrously bad launch in Japan; it has basically no install base there.

If you insist on picking between these consoles, I would recommend looking at other genres and games that you would like to have to inform your decision, because no one can really say which console will attract the shmup developers yet.

[Pretas]

If you insist on picking between these consoles, I would recommend looking at other genres and games that you would like to have to inform your decision, because no one can really say which console will attract the shmup developers yet.

The XONE HAS attracted the STG developers. Moss, Qute, Triangle Service, and G.Rev have all signed up for it and not the PS4. The real questions are whether it will be able to hang on to their support, and if the One's currently announced STG exclusives will end up being ported to PS4 to recoup losses from low sales. This hasn't worked out with previous 360-to-PS3 STG ports, though, which all sold mediocre to awful numbers in their home country.

My assessment is that the developers in question are expecting that the Xbox brand loyalty and goodwill built up among the STG fanbase during the previous generation will carry over to the One. (They may also be receiving financial and development support from Microsoft Japan.) Whether this will actually manifest, or have a significant effect on the sales of these games remains to be seen.

The PS4 is not doing well in Japan at this moment either, because much of the market has lost interest in consoles in favor of handhelds and mobile devices, and most players who have remained committed to consoles are understandably content with their PS3s. However, there is much more faith in the Playstation brand from within the Japanese industry, and Sony can enjoy knowing that the Japanese government will likely bail them out if their losses ever reach that point.

[Cata]

I own both systems right now and would say if you're wanting it for shmups the choice for the future will be the xbone just based off of announced projects but for the moment I would say neither system has anything huge to offer RIGHT now if at all really

[leadwing85]

A new PC or a fancy high-res monitor + emulators, is a better investment right now.

EDIT; or an rgb-modded DUO.

gotta say, this is most likely the best actually. this, and buy older consoles like ps2 and Saturn ect

[Mero]

If you insist on picking between these consoles, I would recommend looking at other genres and games that you would like to have to inform your decision,

This is the right answer. It won't be worth getting one of them just for STG, highly doubtful we're going to see anything like the 360 STG scene on either console.

Probably best to wait a year or two and see what's what then.

[shmuppyLove]

Go with PS4 because it's also getting Hatoful Boyfriend

[Pretas]

This is the right answer. It won't be worth getting one of them just for STG, highly doubtful we're going to see anything like the 360 STG scene on either console.

Mainly because Cave is a skeleton crew now. They had even signed up for Xbox One development, before all their staff members with any talent jumped to M2.

[Mero]

Mainly because Cave is a skeleton crew now.

Yeah, though I'm not anticipating a great deal from anyone else either to be honest.

[Iron Peach]

Geometry Wars 3 is at least something, and it's really fun too! My thumbs hurt still.

[chronicdog]

If you insist on picking between these consoles, I would recommend looking at other genres and games that you would like to have to inform your decision, because no one can really say which console will attract the shmup developers yet.

The XONE HAS attracted the STG developers. Moss, Qute, Triangle Service, and G.Rev have all signed up for it and not the PS4.

Thats cool, as Im getting an XB1, but how does this make sense at all? XB1 bombed in Japan, the home base for shmups? PS4 at least has a decent userbase there and is more indie friendly.

Honestly I think the future of the genre is on PC. Crimson Clover sold decently on Steam, I think devs and publishers have to be taking notice now. Lets see how Geo Wars 3 does there.

[Doctor Butler]

Sony is reaching out to indies, but many of the shooter devs are onboard with the XBOne.

Might be a split, with PS4 getting Sine Moraesque trash, ans the XBOne getting the good games, at least until the lack of consumers catches up with them.

[Pretas]

Thats cool, as Im getting an XB1, but how does this make sense at all? XB1 bombed in Japan, the home base for shmups?

Because a console selling poorly at launch means it's irreversibly doomed for its entire lifespan. Oh wait, it doesn't, because that would mean the PS3, 3DS and Wii U were all complete failures.

It's indeed likely that the One is going to remain in third place in Japan for the entirety of this console cycle (the PS4's considerable head start certainly didn't help), though sales will pick up once its library fills out and more exclusives aimed towards the Japanese market start to appear. They're never going to match the level of relative success they attained with the J-360, but there's no indication yet that MS Japan is planning on giving up.

[CStarFlare]

Since I expect that indies will carry the next generation of shmups, I have far higher hopes for the PS4. The One has some early commitments, but I don't expect that momentum to last.

Either way, I'll hold off on either. Neither is a must at present, for shmups or otherwise.

[Pretas]

It may be worth mentioning that Microsoft Japan's general manager of the Xbox division has resigned and been transferred to Redmond.