Questions about HYPERSTICK, Sega VS, HORI HSJ-12 and HSS-07

[mnneurope]

I have some questions about these 4 sticks (I know there is just now a topic about different parts for SHMUP sticks, but these are more specific q, and it would be much appreciated if U could help me with these, thanks)

I have a Konami HYPERSTICK and I use it for PS Raiden DX and PS Strikers 1945, and it suits me well (it could be a little more tighter, but its ok, its a little loose, thats all)


http://lovestick.tumblr.com/post/2143897559/hyperstick
this website says that this stick uses "full Seimitsu, like some Sega Virtua Sticks". is that true? does this stick uses Seimitsu parts? I dont know, I didnt open it and wouldn't know even if I did open it, unless there is a "made by Seimitsu" on every part inside it...

1 question on this part; is there a difference between different Seimitsu parts in terms of tightness/looseness of directional stick? if I buy a stick with Seimitsu parts, will directional stick be always of certain tightness or there can be a significant difference between different parts of Seimitsu directional stick?


I need to buy some sticks for SFC and SS, so I was thinking about HORI HSJ-12 for SFC and HORI HSS-07 or SEGA HSS-0136 for SS.

so, my questions would be:

does anybody here know what parts these sticks use? do SEGA HSS-0136 use Seimitsu parts and what version of it, if not all?
is there more than 1 version of this stick?

and if there are more than 1 version of this stick, how do I know which one is which and what parts do they use if they use different parts for different versions?


and what parts does HORI HSJ-12 for SFC use?
I intend to play these games with it: Assault Suits Valken, KiKi KaiKai Nazo no Kuro Mantle, Wild Guns



and what parts HORI HSS-07 for SS use?
I intend to play these games with it: Tenchi o Kurau II, Batsugun, Metal Slug, Sengoku Ace Episode II, Cotton 2




Im asking all these questions, because, although sticks themselves are not that expensive, sticks + shipping are, so It would be nice If I knew what sticks would suit me, so I can buy them


Again, thanks for all information U can supply me with, its much appreciated!

[Ed Oscuro]

HSJ-12 Fighting Stick!! is, well, the base can develop some odd spots on it, so look into repainting.

I don't know what parts it uses but it seems quality to me. I don't think it's anything particularly special. Games are very playable with it - I messed around with Super Bonk and Pitfall, even Pac-Man 2 and Pirotwings, and it just feels like second nature. Can't quite get the Wild Guns groove down yet, but again the stick is no problem there.

[quash]

The Virtua Stick uses knockoff Sanwa parts, as I recall. I doubt anything made in the 90's is actually going to have Sanwa/Seimitsu parts. Most of those sticks don't even use microswitches for the buttons; they'll have a rubber plunger that contacts a point on a PCB, effectively making them oversized controller buttons.

If you really want Seimitsu parts, I'd recommend using a more modern base (HRAP, TE, etc.) and installing an MC Cthulhu for compatibility with 16/32 bit consoles. That way you have a stick that has a nice size and weight to it instead of a flimsy plastic noodle from the 90's.

[cicada88]

Not to hijack the thread, but is there any practical reason people get individual sticks for each console rather than just mod / buy a modded multi-console stick?

[quash]

There is no practical reason, though I can imagine some people like the authenticity that comes with playing on era-correct sticks.

The only 90's sticks I've tried that have been even remotely worth a damn are the PS1 Namco stick, the Virtua Stick and the Agetec Dreamcast stick. Even then, they all had their stock parts replaced and had a few mods done to the case itself. They're still way too small for my liking, though if you're looking for a smaller stick that you can easily fit in a messenger bag they're not the worst choice.

I use an Elecom-rebranded Mayflash as my travel stick, and even with a JLF and Crown buttons it's too much of a compromise for any serious use. I can somewhat play KOFXIII and various shooters in MAME with it, but when I switch to a real stick like my HRAP2 or RAP-VX I play significantly better.

Maybe it's one of those things where you get spoiled and can't go back. In any case, I can't recommend anyone buy a bunch of old, tiny ass sticks when a modern stick with an MCC will serve you so much better at a similar/lower price. You can even get a universal mounting plate and experiment with the different Seimitsu sticks, including ones that are too tall to fit in smaller cases.

[Xyga]

http://lovestick.tumblr.com/post/2143897559/hyperstick
this website says that this stick uses "full Seimitsu, like some Sega Virtua Sticks". is that true? does this stick uses Seimitsu parts? I dont know, I didnt open it and wouldn't know even if I did open it, unless there is a "made by Seimitsu" on every part inside it...

Clearly states Seimitsu part numbers (LS-56-01 & PS-15s), you can even see a bit of it on the stick's pcb.

That's a sexy stick by the way, love the design, too bad it's so rare.

[LEGENOARYNINLIA]

Another option is to get Tototek adapters and use the Hyperstick with your other consoles as well.