XRGB-mini Framemeister

[lettuce]

that's typical when the grounds between your RGB cable and your Mini adapter cable don't connect.

so basically open up my scart socket and daisy chain all the ground pins (5,9,13,17,21,18,14,4)?

[Fudoh]

you could start by just checking (visually) if the ground connects. Check on which pin your adapter EXPECTS ground and then check if the Scart cable offers ground on this particular pin.

[lettuce]

you could start by just checking (visually) if the ground connects. Check on which pin your adapter EXPECTS ground and then check if the Scart cable offers ground on this particular pin.

Hmm all grounds seem to be wired up...

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[Windfish]

No doubt, many new users have experienced the following problem, and I am yet another clueless n00b asking for help: my consoles are all connected to an RGB scart switch, and the switch is connected to the Framemeister. I can hear audio, but I cannot see video. If I connect the consoles individually to the Framemeister via the Euroscart adapter with built-in sync stripper, everything is fine. But only audio when the switch is used.

I have two RGB scart switches, actually. One is a Bandridge and the other is a Vivanco. Neither of them work. So what's up?

[parapluie]

Hi everyone,

New XRG-Mini user here (got it yesterday), and I only tried my PS2 (connected with the component to D-Terminal adapter) as I have yet to receive my Euro SCART adapter.

So far, after a few hours I REALLY like the picture I managed to get, but I have a few issues :

1) NTSC PS1 games are not working on my PS2 (modded to be region-free). I can see the PS2 menu launching the game but then, I get a blue screen and I'm unable to get any picture. I can hear the sound, obviously. I didn't manage to find how to get the picture working. My PS2 is PAL and both games were NTSC (Xenogears and Castlevania Symphony of the night). PAL PS1 games are working, and both PAL and NTSC PS2 games are working too. So, only 60hz PS1 games are not working right now.
Should I try plugging the PS2 with Scart cable in order to make the PS1 games working ?

2) The ratio is respected but I got black borders on top and bottom of the screen. Right now I'm using the zoom option of the XRGB-Mini and it's working pretty well, but I have to adapt the setting if the game is 60hz, etc. Does anyone know how to automatically fit the picture to full screen (with ratio respected of course) ?

Thanks very much for your answers !

[Windfish]

I think both of the SCART switches that I have just don't like the Euro-SCART adapter that I bought from Retro Gaming Cables. In particular, I think they don't like the built-in sync stripper of the adapter. Gonna order another one without the sync stripper and see if I can get video.

[mickcris]

I think both of the SCART switches that I have just don't like the Euro-SCART adapter that I bought from Retro Gaming Cables. In particular, I think they don't like the built-in sync stripper of the adapter. Gonna order another one without the sync stripper and see if I can get video.

That will probably fix your problem. probably not enough voltage coming through the switch to power the sync stripper.

[Windfish]

That will probably fix your problem. probably not enough voltage coming through the switch to power the sync stripper.

Hello, mickcris!

Yeah, that is my thought as well. We'll see...

[Smashbro29]

I remember someone said you get higher quality audio if you use the audio jacks on the framemeister rather than having it go in through the RGB cable, does that mean at the end of my chain I should break off audio on its own or does that mean every console should have audio cables break out?

[ZellSF]

That sounds like a weird thing to do, if you're going with breakout audio cables you probably should bypass the XRGB-mini entirely.

[zakruowrath]

Wanted to ask about the well known issue with Sonic The Hedgehog 2 multiplayer. It's not a big deal if it never gets fixed, I would just like to know what causes it? Is it the low clock rate of vertical Hz being at 59.80hz 480i instead of 59.91hz 480i or something else entirely?

[BuckoA51]

No one knows.

[Thomago]

Thanks to the subpar quality of the Framemeister's component input I'm interested in purchasing one of these Ligawo YUV-to-HDMI converters, but I'm asking myself:
Do these devices accept 240p signals? Is 240p over HDMI even possible? And if it is possible, does the Framemeister accept it?

[BuckoA51]

Thanks to the subpar quality of the Framemeister's component input I'm interested in purchasing one of these Ligawo YUV-to-HDMI converters, but I'm asking myself:
Do these devices accept 240p signals? Is 240p over HDMI even possible? And if it is possible, does the Framemeister accept it?

Hmm I believed someone tried this and no, it didn't work well. The HDMI spec does have 240p in it apparently but the FM doesn't handle it. Why not grab one of the Startech component to VGA transcoders and a Extron interface instead?

[Thomago]

That would be problematic to implement in my setup. What's about component to SCART RGB?
Are there any solutions that are able to transode 480p (and above) via component into 480p via RGB, so that my RGB SCART -> Sync Strike -> Extron Interface -> Framemeister setup works the same way I'm used from my PS2?

[Fudoh]

The HDMI spec does have 240p in it apparently but the FM doesn't handle it.

it was the other way around. Officially 240p isn't supported over HDMI, but the Mini sees it and processes it (e.g. PS2 > YUV to HDMI converter > Mini). It's not exactly stable though and I wouldn't bother using it in a real setup.

[Fudoh]

Are there any solutions that are able to transode 480p (and above) via component into 480p via RGB, so that my RGB SCART -> Sync Strike -> Extron Interface -> Framemeister setup works the same way I'm used from my PS2?

you need a transcoder (e.g. the Startech) paired with a sync processor (RGBHV to RGBs). If you use an Extron interface with multiple inputs (203rxi), you can use one input for your Scart sources and another one for RGBHV from a transcoder.

[Thomago]

Any suggestions on what RGBHV to RGB processor to buy? I'm a bit lost there.

[BuckoA51]

an Extron RGB 203rxi ?

[Thomago]

I already own a perfectly good Extron 109xi (that's been shown to be pretty much ultimate in terms of quality, you may remember), so I'm more interested in an extra RGBHV to RGBs solution.

Hhmmm, togehte with the transcoder this would cost me more than €100... I don't think that's worth it to uphold 240p compatiblity. It's a Gamecube after all I'm trying to connect here; 240 isn't that much of a thing there apart from the Game Boy Player, and that's more like a gimmick anyway.

I think I will give the Ligawo converter a try. Thank you anyway!

[Fudoh]

There's a good chance a straight component to HDMI converter for your cube will look just as good. Totally depends on the TV of course....

[BuckoA51]

I already own a perfectly good Extron 109xi (that's been shown to be pretty much ultimate in terms of quality, you may remember)

So why would a 203rxi not be the "ultimate" too? Anyway you could just stick a VGA switch before your Extron and toggle between sync strike and transcoder.

I think I will give the Ligawo converter a try.

Why try something people have confirmed as definitely not working?

[Thomago]

There's a good chance a straight component to HDMI converter for your cube will look just as good. Totally depends on the TV of course....

I don't even own a TV - would I, I wouldn't have bothered to mess around with Component -> Framemeister in the first place

Why try something people have confirmed as definitely not working?

Not (definitely) working for 240p - rest should be fine.

[scottmog]

So I got my scart cables in yesterday and checked out my super Famicom with them via the framemeister. Dear mother of dragons it is beautiful... Sending my n64 to rgb mod tomorrow... Nes rgb mod maybe the end of this month or sooner if funds permit.

[CkRtech]

Sending my n64 to rgb mod tomorrow... Nes rgb mod maybe the end of this month or sooner if funds permit.

The move to RGB+scaler for N64 might feel like a bit of a letdown vs SNES. Not saying it isn't worth it! Just...fyi.

[scottmog]

Sending my n64 to rgb mod tomorrow... Nes rgb mod maybe the end of this month or sooner if funds permit.

The move to RGB+scaler for N64 might feel like a bit of a letdown vs SNES. Not saying it isn't worth it! Just...fyi.

Yes I know but you do gain a bit of clarity, I only need to mod the n64 and nes so it's small stuff imo. Might as well pony up and pay the money to get it done. I really want the nes done asap but it is extremely expensive with the options that I want like Multi out plug etc... I cannot unsee the clarity of rgb and am now forever a rgb snob lol. Playing contra 3 last night, damn that game is so good.

[CkRtech]

I really want the nes done asap but it is extremely expensive with the options that I want like Multi out plug etc...

The NES in RGB has been known to produce tears of joy. Have a tissue box nearby.

[broken harbour]

I just bought an RGB modded N64 and the move from S-video to RGB was a huge step up in clarity.

[Windfish]

Update:

I recently posted about a glitch in my setup. My consoles are all connected to a SCART switch, and the SCART switch is connected to the Framemeister via a retrogamingcables.co.uk adapter, with built-in sync stripper. This produced only sound and no video. So I ordered another SCART adapter from retrogamingcables.co.uk, one without a built-in sync stripper (and, therefore, no requirement for pin 8 to have 5-12v). So here is what happened:

The picture stutters and flickers in and out. The picture is also tinted pink. Perhaps this latter issue is caused by a setting in the Framemeister, I do not know.

Need help. I think this may be related to sync, but I am not sure what the solution would be.

[TheShadowRunner]

Windfish, try to bypass the SCART switch and connect the consoles to the mini directly.
If you experience drop-outs with PS1/2 and original Sony scart cable, it's a known issue, it needs to be modified to work with the Framemeister correctly.
If your set up/consoles are different, please specify which system, connected how, outputting what, etc..