I need help which way do i flip for TATE?

shariar07 · Post by **shariar07** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:36 am

Guys this is my first time and i don't know what i'm doing. I have a 21inch tv which side do i flip it on? Do i flip to the left, right, or do flip the TV completely so that the bottom of the TV is facing up and the Top of the TV is facing the ground. This TV is on its last life, so i want to try to see TATE mode at my house. Please Help, thanks

elvis · Post by **elvis** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:40 am

What game(s) are you playing?

Obviously it will depend on the software/hardware. Some games tate both ways, some only one way.

benstylus · Post by **benstylus** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:45 am

All of the games I have with a tate mode do it so the left side of the TV becomes the bottom.

There are a couple that also do it the other way, but I think the left side is standard.

ccovell · Post by **ccovell** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:56 am

IIRC, all the Namco Museum games on PSX have it the other way, with the right side of the TV becoming the bottom. (no bawdy jokes, please!)

shariar07 · Post by **shariar07** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:56 am

I only play shmups so i wanted to try it
I went and second checked it is a 32" Toshiba with rounded edge speakers. Is there anyway to flip it without too much force on the speakers, do i have to create a holding block. Thanks for any advice

elvis · Post by **elvis** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:01 am

shariar07 wrote:I only play shmups so i wanted to try it

Once again, the direction of the rotation will depend on the game (there's no universal answer for all games). As you can see from the posts above, you'll need to find out which way to rotate your TV from the games you own.

benstylus · Post by **benstylus** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:06 am

ccovell wrote:IIRC, all the Namco Museum games on PSX have it the other way, with the right side of the TV becoming the bottom. (no bawdy jokes, please!)

just checked on that - and you are correct.

Neon · Post by **Neon** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:21 am

shariar07 wrote:I only play shmups so i wanted to try it
I went and second checked it is a 32" Toshiba with rounded edge speakers. Is there anyway to flip it without too much force on the speakers, do i have to create a holding block. Thanks for any advice

Seems too big to risk it, unless you really don't care about it. I'd recommend getting some RGB cables and an amiga monitor - if you're tating, you're going for graphical improvements after all. RGB beats composite by a mile.

neorichieb1971 · Post by **neorichieb1971** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:12 am

benstylus wrote:
ccovell wrote:IIRC, all the Namco Museum games on PSX have it the other way, with the right side of the TV becoming the bottom. (no bawdy jokes, please!)
just checked on that - and you are correct.

All the games are pre jamma thats why.

For what reason Jamma games went the other way I don't know.

For shmups, the bottom should be the left side of the screen with the right side being the top. I would say more than 90% of TATE related software works this way around.

benstylus · Post by **benstylus** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:26 pm

Guess the only real solution is to go cocktail style.

Post by **Dave_K.** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:10 pm

Neorichie is right on the mark. Left side is bottom. Only the Namo Classics PCBs use right side as bottom afaik.

PFG 9000 · Post by **PFG 9000** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:48 pm

Wouldn't the obvious solution be to fire up the game, switch to TATE mode, and take a long careful look at the screen to see which way you'll need to flip it?

Post by **Dave_K.** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:01 pm

PFG 9000 wrote:Wouldn't the obvious solution be to fire up the game, switch to TATE mode, and take a long careful look at the screen to see which way you'll need to flip it?

Some games have options to tate both ways, others have option to only tate one way. The risk of damaging your TV increases if you have to keep tating it a different way for different games. Might as well get it right for 90% of the games the first time.

shariar07 · Post by **shariar07** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:35 pm

Thanks guys it looks like i have to flip it one the left side as the majority of the votes. Anyway i will try to get a picture of my TV, i have only one problem the sides are not flat, it is kind of a rounded edge where the speakers are located, i think i have to put some foundation for it since its heavy. I will try to get a pic asap, thanks for all the help guys.

Arvandor · Post by **Arvandor** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:30 am

Actually, from what my friend told me about turning TV's sideways; the worst thing that can happen to it, is that it will get "polarized." I wasn't curious enough to inquire as to exactly what that means or what exactly causes it, but apparently it is a hazard.

Andi · Post by **Andi** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:24 am

Arvandor wrote:Actually, from what my friend told me about turning TV's sideways; the worst thing that can happen to it, is that it will get "polarized." I wasn't curious enough to inquire as to exactly what that means or what exactly causes it, but apparently it is a hazard.

Sometimes all the shit inside shakes loose. That's the worst thing that can happen.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:54 am

neorichieb1971 wrote:All the games are pre jamma thats why.

For what reason Jamma games went the other way I don't know.

Nope, that's not true, many games on Namco Museum are Jamma. Dragon Spirit and Dragon Saber for example.

I think it's just Namco being weird and making it flip right, that's all.

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:01 am

At least they learned in time for Xevious 3D/G+, which has an "arcade flip" mode ^_^

trivial · Post by **trivial** » Mon Dec 26, 2005 3:21 am

I have a 32" tube TV in TATE with no problems, but its cabinet is a rectangular wooden box. If you could get a giant block of that foam used for flower arrangements...