Ketsui/Mushi superplay DVD

Smraedis · Post by **Smraedis** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:39 pm

Valgar wrote:How many points do you get for lives in DP? Also why only 2 bombs?

Using 2 bombs or less gets you mad bomb bonuses on the second loop.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:54 pm

Here's some fucked up shit. I arrived at Hey! and saw someone playing Ketusi. He was just sitting at the bottom of the screen blowing shit up, so I thought "man, he really sucks" then realized he was on the second loop. O_o. He cleared it with like 5 ships left (normal loop, not ura). First time for me to see that in person. What happened next? Someone else sat down and got to stage 3 or 4 on the 2nd loop. Unreal... a game hard as nails and two consecutivce people get that far in it. :/

Post by **Icarus** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:18 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:Unreal... a game hard as nails and two consecutivce people get that far in it. :/

Bear in mind that the game has been out for several years, so players have had plenty of time to get used to the system and the game. No doubt that it'd be amazing to watch in person, yes, but it would be more amazing if the game itself had only been out for a couple of weeks ^_-

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:10 pm

Yeah, but I can't get even CLOSE to that far, and I own the PCB... then again, I'm not all that in the first place.

zlk · Post by **zlk** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:05 am

People severely underestimate the power of going to an arcade and watching other people play. Combine that with being able to talk to people in person about gaming strategies and you have a recipe for dramatically improving your gameplay. Too bad arcades are dead in the USA.

LUNardei · Post by **LUNardei** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:51 pm

zlk wrote:People severely underestimate the power of going to an arcade and watching other people play. Combine that with being able to talk to people in person about gaming strategies and you have a recipe for dramatically improving your gameplay. Too bad arcades are dead in the USA.

In the USA and in the rest world exept Japan...

Post by **Icarus** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:27 am

BTW, you might want to check out INH's Ketsui DVD page for a new sample, showing some footage from the DVD.

Of particular interest is the 10 seconds worth of very interesting DOOM final pattern evasion footage ^_^

captain ahar · Post by **captain ahar** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:13 pm

just watched the samples, and that is insane. i really want to play this game.

JigsawMan · Post by **JigsawMan** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:45 pm

How do you go about buying (or pre-ordering) the insanity dvd's - I'd love the Cave ones?

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:11 pm

Some new details about the Mushi DVD package gleaned from INH's site (http://www.inhgroup.com/item/hime/):

-The Maniac replay will be WITHOUT RAPID FIRE, while the Original and Ultra replays will be WITH RAPID FIRE. The Original and Maniac mode replays will be from the #1 players in those respective modes. The Maniac score will be 950+mil. The Ultra mode score is by a guy called TGA-RET, though they do not say his score is the best in the world, just that he clears it on a credit.

-As you play the DVD there will be audio commentary by the developer Ikeda-san, Princess Reko (

), and each of the three players. This commentary can be turned on or off at your leisure.

-In addition to the 3 game mode replays, there will also be a 4th replay section which is sorta like a tutorial on how to master patterns and techniques in the game and play like a 'super player'.

-As you play each mode comments are written in Japanese in the right portion of the screen.

All in all this looks like a really cool DVD, and I am going to preorder it for sure. If you can't read Japanese or understand spoken Japanese however, it's not going to be quite as valuable due to all the strats being explained in Japanese, as well as the audio commentary being in Japanese.

Also, the DVD is Region-2, not region-free. So you'll need a region-free DVD player or something like a Japanese PS2 to play it.

EOJ · Post by **EOJ** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:29 pm

Holy crap, I just read the bottom of INH's site and it has some bios about the players. It says on the DVD TGA-RET's Ultra-mode replay is a NO MISS CLEAR! Is he the only person to beat Ultra without dying? I doubted it was even possible.

Post by **Icarus** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:36 pm

twe wrote:Holy crap, I just read the bottom of INH's site and it has some bios about the players. It says on the DVD TGA-RET's Ultra-mode replay is a NO MISS CLEAR! Is he the only person to beat Ultra without dying? I doubted it was even possible.

IIRC there is a particular method to force the true final boss' last pattern to open up gaps in the bullet wave. If you've played against the TLB in Arranged Mode, you'll notice that the last pattern is based on streams of large fireballs being fired, and these fireballs in turn will radiate bullets out at regular intervals as they travel across the screen.

If you can force one stream of fireballs to fire off the side of the screen, you can dramatically cut down the amount of bullets you have to deal with.

Ex_Mosquito · Post by **Ex_Mosquito** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:42 pm

-As you play the DVD there will be audio commentary by the developer Ikeda-san, Princess Reko ( ), and each of the three players. This commentary can be turned on or off at your leisure.

agh if only i could understand japanese! The players commentary would've been really interesting.

MSZ · Post by **MSZ** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:57 pm

twe wrote:Some new details about the Mushi DVD package gleaned from INH's site (http://www.inhgroup.com/item/hime/):

-The Maniac replay will be WITHOUT RAPID FIRE, while the Original and Ultra replays will be WITH RAPID FIRE. The Original and Maniac mode replays will be from the #1 players in those respective modes. The Maniac score will be 950+mil. The Ultra mode score is by a guy called TGA-RET, though they do not say his score is the best in the world, just that he clears it on a credit.

-As you play the DVD there will be audio commentary by the developer Ikeda-san, Princess Reko ( ), and each of the three players. This commentary can be turned on or off at your leisure.

-In addition to the 3 game mode replays, there will also be a 4th replay section which is sorta like a tutorial on how to master patterns and techniques in the game and play like a 'super player'.

-As you play each mode comments are written in Japanese in the right portion of the screen.

All in all this looks like a really cool DVD, and I am going to preorder it for sure. If you can't read Japanese or understand spoken Japanese however, it's not going to be quite as valuable due to all the strats being explained in Japanese, as well as the audio commentary being in Japanese.

Also, the DVD is Region-2, not region-free. So you'll need a region-free DVD player or something like a Japanese PS2 to play it.

The boxset also comes with the remix soundtrack and a 70-page booklet with all the game infos and illustrations.

My question is, I don't know how is that remix soundtrack going to sounds like, since I already have the arcade Mushi OST.

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:14 am

twe, when you get it, please tell me if Ikeda-san says anything interesting.

Plasmo · Post by **Plasmo** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:02 am

NO MISS ULTRA MODE!!!!!!!WTFBBQWHOA!
That makes DOOM the only impossible Cave true last boss again....

ArrogantBastard · Post by **ArrogantBastard** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:53 am

What the fucking fuck? Someone did a no-miss on Ultra mode? I must see this.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:22 am

Order the DVD. I will. THe Ketsui one is great!

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:48 pm

Plasmo wrote:NO MISS ULTRA MODE!!!!!!!WTFBBQWHOA!
That makes DOOM the only impossible Cave true last boss again....

I told you.

LUNardei · Post by **LUNardei** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:03 pm

maco · Post by **maco** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:44 pm

Valgar wrote:
Plasmo wrote:NO MISS ULTRA MODE!!!!!!!WTFBBQWHOA!
That makes DOOM the only impossible Cave true last boss again....
I told you.

No one has no missed DOOM?
I was planning to get Ketsui, but I seem to have lost interest in games at the moment.

Has anybody no missed Hibachi of DOJ fame?

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:46 pm

There is a NO MISS Hibachi from DOJ Black Label. You get more hypers in BL...I don't know if it has been done in White Label (I think so). No NO MISS on DOOM.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:21 am

We're waiting for you to do it, Valgar!

SAM · Post by **SAM** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:26 am

Anyone seen the Mushi DVD for sale oversea?

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:58 am

It's not out yet -- next month.

sven666 · Post by **sven666** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:50 pm

GaijinPunch wrote:Here's some fucked up shit. I arrived at Hey! and saw someone playing Ketusi. He was just sitting at the bottom of the screen blowing shit up, so I thought "man, he really sucks" then realized he was on the second loop. O_o. He cleared it with like 5 ships left (normal loop, not ura). First time for me to see that in person. What happened next? Someone else sat down and got to stage 3 or 4 on the 2nd loop. Unreal... a game hard as nails and two consecutivce people get that far in it. :/

i have to disagree, i just got the PCB and on a good day i can 1life to stage 4 (i am by nomeans a pro or anything like that), sure i may use a bomb or two (one at 2nd boss "sidepattern", one at 3rd midboss "crazy spray", the rest at 3rd boss) but the aleged diffulculty of ketsui is very much over-rated.

DDP DOJ is definetly alot harder than Ketsui. ive been playing that game alot more and can barley make my way to the 4th stage using bombs and dying...

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:28 pm

sven666 wrote:
GaijinPunch wrote:Here's some fucked up shit. I arrived at Hey! and saw someone playing Ketusi. He was just sitting at the bottom of the screen blowing shit up, so I thought "man, he really sucks" then realized he was on the second loop. O_o. He cleared it with like 5 ships left (normal loop, not ura). First time for me to see that in person. What happened next? Someone else sat down and got to stage 3 or 4 on the 2nd loop. Unreal... a game hard as nails and two consecutivce people get that far in it. :/
i have to disagree, i just got the PCB and on a good day i can 1life to stage 4 (i am by nomeans a pro or anything like that), sure i may use a bomb or two (one at 2nd boss "sidepattern", one at 3rd midboss "crazy spray", the rest at 3rd boss) but the aleged diffulculty of ketsui is very much over-rated.

DDP DOJ is definetly alot harder than Ketsui. ive been playing that game alot more and can barley make my way to the 4th stage using bombs and dying...

What is your score? I think zakk mentioned it earlier, but if you ignore score it can be pretty easy through stage 3. However, Stage 5 is going to rape you.

MrMonkeyMan · Post by **MrMonkeyMan** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:26 pm

URA loop will make you its bitch. If you can even get to it =\

chtimi-CLA · Post by **chtimi-CLA** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:41 pm

Valgar wrote:There is a NO MISS Hibachi from DOJ Black Label. You get more hypers in BL...I don't know if it has been done in White Label (I think so). No NO MISS on DOOM.

was the doj-omake vid on arika' site from Black Label? That vid was insane.

also i wouldn't conclude doom is worse, one situation people can simulation mode their way directly to the 2-5 bosses for practice, the other you need to complete a SPECIAL loop, no port, even less simulation mode.

Valgar · Post by **Valgar** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:06 pm

No, I am talking about a different video.