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ptoing wrote:I wonder if there will be a free disc replacement for people who bought the DC version, esp since getting a whole bunch of discs pressed does not cost too much.
SRSLY. or at least a cdi file. That would be no cost minus the bugfixing in the DC version.
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Burnt CDs are not that great for the laser mechanism in the DC, and really, it is less than a euro per pressed CD if you press 1000 or so of them.
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ptoing wrote:Burnt CDs are not that great for the laser mechanism in the DC, and really, it is less than a euro per pressed CD if you press 1000 or so of them.
While technically true, this is barely true of high quality CD-Rs, however, you make a good point, and I think you're right.
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I doubt they would ever throw out .cdi files, because piracy. But if I was them, I would make demo versions people could just burn. First 2 or so levels. Why not? Oh yeah, let's avoid people actually getting to play the game before they buy it.
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ptoing wrote:I doubt they would ever throw out .cdi files, because piracy. But if I was them, I would make demo versions people could just burn. First 2 or so levels. Why not? Oh yeah, let's avoid people actually getting to play the game before they buy it.
I think this is also something they should probably do. Not having demos is pretty dumb, IMO. FWIW, you could probably rip the image off of the CD as simply as "cdirip /dev/sr0" in linux, and probably not too much more difficult in Windows / Mac, so saying "we refuse to give you a cdi file because piracy" is a little bit silly. You might actually just be able to copy the unmounted CD directly in linux. I wouldn't be half surprised, because everything is a file (cdirip would give you the audio files and an iso, which is a bit more messy). The thing is, Piracy is incredibly easy with Dreamcast games, regardless. it'd be a little harder with an actual GD rom, but that's a moot point because they are no longer manufactured
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Well yeah, af course. Any kind of effort to combat piracy is generally futily.
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Like I said before, all NG: DEV. TEAM care about is selling their packaged games. Period. They don't care about putting out a bug free or even good game, it's all about selling the package. They could put out a blank CD with a nice package in a very limited yet expensive package, and the collectors would buy it. :lol:

If the fixes needed for the DC version were trivial, they should however fix them and offer the fixed game for free. This would be great PR for them, showing:

a) that they care about their audience at all, and not just about making easy money off collectors
b) that they actually know how to fix bugs

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@emphatic: I think you're right, at this point. It's a shame though, considering how good Fast Striker is (both fun, and not buggy). But Their refusal to do anything to make things right by the DC version of Neo XYX now, has shown me that that was just a coincedence that that game happened to be good. Probably not going to put much faith in them in the future.
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I just purchased the Dreamcast one, but will rebuy the game if there's a Neo-Geo CD version (which would likely be free of the DC version bugs). This shouldn't be too hard with NX weighing in at only 264 Meg. Losing bomb fragments and also having the stage 2 boss be invulnerable at times are things I'd rather not deal with.
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gameoverDude wrote:I just purchased the Dreamcast one, but will rebuy the game if there's a Neo-Geo CD version (which would likely be free of the DC version bugs). This shouldn't be too hard with NX weighing in at only 264 Meg. Losing bomb fragments and also having the stage 2 boss be invulnerable at times are things I'd rather not deal with.
seriously. Not to mention that the MVS version has had an update already since the release of the DC ver.
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LordHypnos wrote:seriously. Not to mention that the MVS version has had an update already since the release of the DC ver.
The DC GunLord was based on the final release, so why not Neo Xyx as well?

Sometimes I think they need to go with Xbox 360 or PS3, especially if it makes patching possible. M2 can help out with the emulation side of things.
Shame there isn't an EASY way to patch the DC version.
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LordHypnos wrote:seriously. Not to mention that the MVS version has had an update already since the release of the DC ver.
The DC GunLord was based on the final release, so why not Neo Xyx as well?

Sometimes I think they need to go with Xbox 360 or PS3, especially if it makes patching possible. M2 can help out with the emulation side of things.
Shame there isn't an EASY way to patch the DC version.
People have made translation patches and shit for DC games, but yeah, I imagine it is neither easy nor necessarily easy to do with something more complex than translation.
What they really should have done, assuming they didn't have enough funds for the kind of testing that Fast Striker got, is submit it to the community for bugtesting like Duranik did with Sturmwind.
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Stop giving money to these people. Seriously, why do you keep doing it?
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Yeah... like... stop buying fun games because the developer doesn't care about you... :roll:
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Yeah, exactly...and beggars can't be choosers.
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If you are displeased with your purchase, then you can ask for a refund or sell it. It's as simple as that imho.
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gameoverDude wrote:I just purchased the Dreamcast one, but will rebuy the game if there's a Neo-Geo CD version (which would likely be free of the DC version bugs). This shouldn't be too hard with NX weighing in at only 264 Meg.
This would be amazing for another LE release. Last Hope on the Neo Geo CD runs great and loads super fast. I'd buy Neo XYX for it in a heartbeat if it was made available.
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DMC wrote:Yeah, exactly...and beggars can't be choosers.
There are a hundred million other games you could be playing (for free, even) instead of shelling out for any more NGDEV/Hucast junk.
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Has the bug been fixed yet?
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Austin wrote:
gameoverDude wrote:I just purchased the Dreamcast one, but will rebuy the game if there's a Neo-Geo CD version (which would likely be free of the DC version bugs). This shouldn't be too hard with NX weighing in at only 264 Meg.
This would be amazing for another LE release. Last Hope on the Neo Geo CD runs great and loads super fast. I'd buy Neo XYX for it in a heartbeat if it was made available.
Bought the dc version but +1 for the neo cd version
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GSK wrote:
DMC wrote:Yeah, exactly...and beggars can't be choosers.
There are a hundred million other games you could be playing (for free, even) instead of shelling out for any more NGDEV/Hucast junk.
This game is not junk. Or do you mean the care taken over the bug's that have crept in as i do agree this shouldn't have happened
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Soundtrack

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Hi guys, I've released the digital download of the Neo XYX soundtrack over on my bandpage, priced 1,99 EUR. If you like synthpop/retro/chiptune/shmups music, I hope you enjoy it.

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Hello guys,

What are the differences between the AES/MVS versions and the DC one?
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Win two signed copies of NEO XYX and with soundtrack

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Guys, you can win one of three sealed games (two NEO XYX for Dreamcast and the other one is The Ghost Blade for DC) which I will sign and also include a digital soundtrack. To qualify for the draw, like my page over on Facebook and the post to let me know you've take part.

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Winners will be drawn on 31. October! Good luck!
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