Decided to install mine today in my fz-10. Had a couple issues. The frameister would not detect the console until the horizontal image pot was tweeked. I first thought I had done something wrong but it showed on my crappy scart to hdmi convertor. After the pot tweek, all was good till I put the shield back on. Had to cut a bit of the shield to fit the din connector and the horizontal image pot was hitting the shielding and causing the rgb out to stop working and interference on the composite output. Some electrical tape on the shield corrected the problem. I guess I missed the recommended install location by a few millimeters.airs wrote:Received Otaku's 3DO RGB Mod Kit on Friday and finished the mod yesterday with a friend's help. The solder points were insane but somehow we got it right on the first try. Results with the mini (480i of course):
Nice to hear it's not a big issue on CRTs... is game speed affected too, or is it only a matter of a fractionally lower framerate?slk486 wrote:The crt just matches the timing, so there is no issue. On scalers it's one of those things you may not notice, but when you do, you can't unsee it. My advice is to stop looking for itIgnorance is bliss.
it doesn't ?the XRGB-mini doesn't support 720p input through HDMI, right?
).Why? Scanlines don't make sense if you're not upscaling. I've never heard someone explain the 'science' of why we like scanlines, but I imagine it's because you're taking a signal and linedoubling (or more) the picture, which is creating redundant lines. When you mask the image with scanlines, your eyes over time learn to ignore the scanline effect and your brain 'interpolates' the missing lines of detail from the low-def source. It's like looking through a screen door for a few minutes. Your brain over time ignores the screen.austin532 wrote:It supports 720p, 1080i, and 1080p inputs but you can't enable scanlines which I guess you really don't need at those resolutions. Still, it would be nice to have scanlines for those Original XBOX games that support 720p like Soul Calibur II.
I had similar problems in Chrono Trigger and Street Fighter 2 Turbo until I used an externally powered sync stripper from RCA. The other thing that works for me is restoring CSYNC to pin 3 of the AV Multiout on my SNES Mini and then making sure the cable I'm using routes this to Composite Video pin on the SCART connector.TheRetromancer wrote:I've noticed some sync issues with SNES games - A Link to the Past has sync flickering on the intro/title screen, and Mega Man 7 seems to have it at various points throughout the intro stage. I've used both the original SCART/XRGB adapter (rewired for Euro SCART) and retro_console_accessories Boosted Sync adapter. No difference. Can anyone else confirm this?
Raising the sync level actually makes it worse - raising it past 22 causes audio dropouts, and going past 27 causes the XRGB to lose the video. it will re-capture it in a few seconds, but it doesn't improve. It's weird.
Mind giving us a link to it?airs wrote:I had similar problems in Chrono Trigger and Street Fighter 2 Turbo until I used an externally powered sync stripper from RCA. The other thing that works for me is restoring CSYNC to pin 3 of the AV Multiout on my SNES Mini and then making sure the cable I'm using routes this to Composite Video pin on the SCART connector.
Here is the external powered adaptorTheRetromancer wrote:Mind giving us a link to it?airs wrote:I had similar problems in Chrono Trigger and Street Fighter 2 Turbo until I used an externally powered sync stripper from RCA. The other thing that works for me is restoring CSYNC to pin 3 of the AV Multiout on my SNES Mini and then making sure the cable I'm using routes this to Composite Video pin on the SCART connector.
Actually, I found a solution for my problem, and it literally makes no sense. I'm posting it here in the hopes that someone could explain what's going on.mickcris wrote:Here is the external powered adaptor
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micomsoft-XRGB- ... 1085665742
Has anybody opened the internally powered adaptor and checked what's inside? Probably at least a LM1881, but I wonder if it includes chroma filter and proper supply decoupling caps?airs wrote:I had similar problems in Chrono Trigger and Street Fighter 2 Turbo until I used an externally powered sync stripper from RCA. The other thing that works for me is restoring CSYNC to pin 3 of the AV Multiout on my SNES Mini and then making sure the cable I'm using routes this to Composite Video pin on the SCART connector.TheRetromancer wrote:I've noticed some sync issues with SNES games - A Link to the Past has sync flickering on the intro/title screen, and Mega Man 7 seems to have it at various points throughout the intro stage. I've used both the original SCART/XRGB adapter (rewired for Euro SCART) and retro_console_accessories Boosted Sync adapter. No difference. Can anyone else confirm this?
Raising the sync level actually makes it worse - raising it past 22 causes audio dropouts, and going past 27 causes the XRGB to lose the video. it will re-capture it in a few seconds, but it doesn't improve. It's weird.
Yes, this is the best way to display the DC on the XRGB-mini. What do you see on the XRGB-mini's status screen when you have it hooked up? 640x480p, correct? If so, try changing VISUAL_SET -> AUTO_SCALER to VIDEO and see if that fixes the problem.arovane wrote:Very disappointed.
I've got a UMSA with my Dreamcast, thinking that it will improve over a normal Scart. But in my opinion it doesn't, even though I've heard the contrary here. What the UMSA does is that it simply takes the VGA output signal from the VGA box, convert it and output it in SCART to the mini. The result is even a little worse than a direct SCART as there must be some loss in the signal. Worse: games like Street Fighter X, that only works in VGA, doesn't work anymore as the signal is not VGA after going through the UMSA. Crap. Unless I'm mistaking, and being an idiot, it's the first time I've got badly adviced here.
How do I get the VGA signal without loss through the mini??? With Hanzo??? Confused.
Don't confuse VGA as in the screenmode and VGA as in the DSUB-15 connector. UMSA does no conversion other than combining sync, what goes in is what comes out. The signal that is output is still the same 720x480 progressive when in VGA mode.What the UMSA does is that it simply takes the VGA output signal from the VGA box, convert it and output it in SCART to the mini.
There's no loss because the only conversion going on is converting separate sync to composite sync.The result is even a little worse than a direct SCART as there must be some loss in the signal.
Do you actually own one or are you speculating here? The signal is still 720x480, no conversion is applied. How would the game even know that you were using an UMSA?Worse: games like Street Fighter X, that only works in VGA, doesn't work anymore as the signal is not VGA after going through the UMSA.
Mistaken but hardly being an idiot just because you misunderstood.Unless I'm mistaking, and being an idiot, it's the first time I've got badly adviced here.
Actually no, it's always displaying 720x480i, whether i'm using just SCART or VGA box + UMSA...darcagn wrote:Yes, this is the best way to display the DC on the XRGB-mini. What do you see on the XRGB-mini's status screen when you have it hooked up? 640x480p, correct? If so, try changing VISUAL_SET -> AUTO_SCALER to VIDEO and see if that fixes the problem.arovane wrote:Very disappointed.
I've got a UMSA with my Dreamcast, thinking that it will improve over a normal Scart. But in my opinion it doesn't, even though I've heard the contrary here. What the UMSA does is that it simply takes the VGA output signal from the VGA box, convert it and output it in SCART to the mini. The result is even a little worse than a direct SCART as there must be some loss in the signal. Worse: games like Street Fighter X, that only works in VGA, doesn't work anymore as the signal is not VGA after going through the UMSA. Crap. Unless I'm mistaking, and being an idiot, it's the first time I've got badly adviced here.
How do I get the VGA signal without loss through the mini??? With Hanzo??? Confused.
Yes I own a copy, imported from Japan, and the game don't work properly with VGA box + UMSA, it display the picture zoomed x4, as if I was using RGB with Scart. I know the game is not RGB compatible but I thought using VGA box + UMSA would work, I was wrong.Worse: games like Street Fighter X, that only works in VGA, doesn't work anymore as the signal is not VGA after going through the UMSA.
Do you actually own one or are you speculating here? The signal is still 720x480, no conversion is applied. How would the game even know that you were using an UMSA?
I may be an idiot cause I still didn't understand the whole point of using VGA box + UMSA + RGB mini instead of just SCART to MiniUnless I'm mistaking, and being an idiot, it's the first time I've got badly adviced here.
Mistaken but hardly being an idiot just because you misunderstood.
No I don't. I Have a regular VGA box with TV/PC switch. Where can I get a Hanzo?Fudoh wrote:Do you have a VGA box with a 15/31khz switch like the Hanzo ? You're supposed to run it in 480p - that's the whole point.
on low-res 2D games it doesn't matter, but once you run a native hi-res game, true 480p is always superior to deinterlaced 480i.I still didn't understand the whole point of using VGA box + UMSA + RGB mini instead of just SCART to Mini
