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What's the hardest shmup you've ever played? Mine is Summer carnival 92 recca.
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This is objectively wrong, please consider your opionion to be wrong. There is only one answer to this question:

http://youtu.be/sQZuidKexBQ

(it even says it in the title, so it can't be wrong)
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Jeez, get with the times grandpa.

Touhou is at least 10 times harder.
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its like you people've never heard of tohou...... -.-;
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Plasmo wrote:This is objectively wrong, please consider your opionion to be wrong. There is only one answer to this question:

http://youtu.be/sQZuidKexBQ

(it even says it in the title, so it can't be wrong)
There are some great comments on that vid:

"I don't see how this is that hard. Is this game like touhou? Because it seems like all you have to do is change to being invulnerable to purple bullets, watch for the blue lasers, and shoot your heart out."
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I think a 2all of DDP Campaign edition, or Image Fight via the penalty area are considered the two hardest clears, at least according to that list that has been posted on here now and then from Japan.

Hardest shmup I've ever personally played is either Dimahoo, Battle Garegga or Gunbird II.

But that's just my opinion.
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Exactly what I thought seeing the title...
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Troll Answer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_aQiKoe-RI
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Real answer:
First place:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tz_fViahnA
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This has only been cleared once ever, and even in this clear he has to use absolutely every resource available and do insane dodges through patterns that should kill any mortal player, so it is worthy of the title 'hardest shmup ever'.

Second place:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8JBDyFC9BE
PS2 - Dodonpachi DOJ Death Label 2-ALL (the video saying it's a 1-ALL is in error)
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EDIT: Here's the other one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0s9oFoFVGg

EDIT 2: I thought of a good third place for my list: Muchi Muchi Pork Manpuku 2-ALL!
Manpuku combines a ridiculous torrent of suicide bullets from almost everything in the game (including suicide circles, splurging 'lasers' of bullets, etc) with the over-the-top patterns of loop 2 (especially miniboss and post-miniboss sections with such dense bullets as to feel almost impossible to safely clear!). Your only saving grace is that you can get score extends indefinitely, but no no one has ever cleared this.
The record is 2-4 by DEL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DoSUrbqMFo
The only reason why I would not put it higher than third despite having never been cleared ever is that this gameplay mode gets very little attention compared to Futari Ultra and DDP DoJ DL, so it's possible that it would have easier strats/a clear by now if it were more popular.
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I find Recca and Ketsui reasonably hard, at least at the beginning. I'm sure there are many levels of nastiness beyond them.
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Every time I'm linked to that Ultra mode video I end up watching it. And every time, I'm baffled.
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"I don't see how this is that hard. Is this game like touhou? Because it seems like all you have to do is change to being invulnerable to purple bullets, watch for the blue lasers, and shoot your heart out."
I... Thats... I... What? I don't know where to begin... other than wondering where these fabled "blue lasers" he saw were.
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Patashu wrote: Second place:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8JBDyFC9BE
PS2 - Dodonpachi DOJ Death Label
It's the MON clear. Nuff said. Only one other person has cleared this.
samething popped up in "shmups questions doesnt deserve a thread" topic. two others that have cleared this are BGR-44 and SWY.
but yeah, it is possibly the hardest thing ever.
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50Hz wrote:Touhou is at least 10 times harder.
That's not how you spell Ikaruga.
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nasty_wolverine wrote:
Patashu wrote: Second place:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8JBDyFC9BE
PS2 - Dodonpachi DOJ Death Label
It's the MON clear. Nuff said. Only one other person has cleared this.
samething popped up in "shmups questions doesnt deserve a thread" topic. two others that have cleared this are BGR-44 and SWY.
but yeah, it is possibly the hardest thing ever.
BGR-44 was accused of cheating some time ago. There are probably reasonable doubts concerning his potential Death Label clear.

I also didn't know that SWY has cleared it. Is there any information about this out there?
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Plasmo wrote: BGR-44 was accused of cheating some time ago. There are probably reasonable doubts concerning his potential Death Label clear.

I also didn't know that SWY has cleared it. Is there any information about this out there?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfRaGIaZV8A here
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The title says the player is called "ため". I don't see any info in there that it's supposed to be SWY.
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sdoj expert mode inbachi?
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Erppo wrote:The title says the player is called "ため". I don't see any info in there that it's supposed to be SWY.
He also has other videos uploaded that specifically credit SWY as the player so no it's not SWY.

Nor is this SWY's youtube channel because SWY is not Korean.
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...That I've played? Probably Gunbird 2. Especially 2-ALL. videos of that clear are intense as fuck.
Recca is also pretty damn hard, in my experience. Mostly when you accidentally get the wrong powerup. Might be a little easier if you lower the ship speed, but IDK really. It probably makes some things harder, too. I doubt it's actually as hard as a GB2 2-ALL.
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Pink Sweets 1.00, no infinite lives.
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trap15 wrote:Pink Sweets 1.00, no infinite lives.
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I find Dodonpachi DaiOuJou to be hard. It's the only shmup I've ever played that gets me killed on the first boss.
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What is this? I mean the game. I get that it's a safespot.

Also LOL at the quoted youtube comment on hardest boss video. WTF was that guy talking about :lol:
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KAI wrote:
trap15 wrote:Pink Sweets 1.00, no infinite lives.
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I've seen only one ALL run of this game, the one by AZI.
Any records of other players ever clearing this monster ?

EDIT: nevermind, found my answer in the world records section.
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Squire Grooktook wrote:
50Hz wrote:Touhou is at least 10 times harder.
That's not how you spell Ikaruga.
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