Post some pics friends!pyrotek85 wrote:I think it looks great myself as well, but I know I don't have quite as sharp an eye for the finer picture details.airs wrote:I have my GC hooked up using the stock D-Terminal cable, plugged directly into the mini - is there some downside to this? So far I think it looks great.
Would be interesting to see screen comparisons between the stock GC D-Terminal cable and a VGA modded D-Terminal cable with sync combiner (for 480p) to the RGB input on the mini.Thomago wrote:In case somebody is interested: I have a PAL Gamecube, so I compared Component and RGB on the Framemeister:
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What the...airs wrote:FYI, just got a $10.xx bill from DHL for importing the mini from SolarisJapan to the USA. Missed the invoice option, oh well.
Would be interesting to see screen comparisons between the stock GC D-Terminal cable and a VGA modded D-Terminal cable with sync combiner (for 480p) to the RGB input on the mini.Thomago wrote:In case somebody is interested: I have a PAL Gamecube, so I compared Component and RGB on the Framemeister:
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I got mine from Amazon.jp by way of Tenso and last I checked, they don't do invoice modification. They even left the original Amazon invoice in the box when I got it.airs wrote:Oh, yeah..hmm. Maybe because everyone else did the modified invoice?
EMS up until USPS when it reaches the States. I'm just saying because I've imported a number of things from Japan and not once did I pay any tariffs.airs wrote:Perhaps DHL is just more "by the book" than other couriers? What shipping method was yours?
yes, I have found in numerous occasions that they won't skip taxing/fees, infact I believe they aim at that since (at least here) the custom fees - not the state tax - goes to them.airs wrote:Perhaps DHL is just more "by the book" than other couriers? What shipping method was yours?
By 480p not possible with RGB, you mean SCART and not a cable modded to VGA (RGBHV) right?Thomago wrote:In case somebody is interested: I have a PAL Gamecube, so I compared Component and RGB on the Framemeister:
Component:
+ 480p is possible
+ pixel perfect sharpness at the picture borders (gameplay itself is kinda blurry thanks to the GC's flicker filter)
- noisy picture (probably the Framemeister's fault)
- extensive calibration necessary to get neutral colors (the Framemeister's fault)
RGB:
+ nice colors out of the box
+ no noise IF a sync stripper is used
- wave interference noise if no sync stripper is used
- no 480p possible
- blurry picture (gameplay isn't affected very much since it's blurry anyway)
So I presume the XRGB unit is adding the scanlines, then the DVDO (Edge Green model ok?) will do the integer scaling?Fudoh wrote:You can get a XRGB2/3 + DVDO combo to do that. Faster than a Framemeister anyway. More compatible to 240p/480i transitions as well.What scaler can do 1080p properly (i.e. integer scaling with even scalines)?
I've always been curious about this claim.RowanDDR wrote:I see that MD/Saturn (320x224) scaling is bad in B1 mode with the XRGB3:
http://junkerhq.net/xrgb/index.php/XRGB ... in_B1_mode
right, the XRGB adds the scanlines, the DVDO does the upscaling. But doesn't do any cheap integer next neighbour scaling, but real upscaling (resampling of each pixel).So I presume the XRGB unit is adding the scanlines, then the DVDO (Edge Green model ok?) will do the integer scaling?
you're right. The effect seen on those example shots isn't caused by the XRGB, but by a TV applying the wrong sampling resolution (640 vs 720 pixels in width). The XRGB-3's RGBs output (XRGB-2/2+ as well) is SMTPE 480p and *not* VESA 640x480. If you add a VGA to component transcoder to the XRGB-3 and then either use component on your TV (or add a component to HDMI converter), there won't be any "bad scaling" effects.I've always been curious about this claim.
Yes. Probably should have made clear that I'm talking about standard Nintendo cables.Seraphic wrote:By 480p not possible with RGB, you mean SCART and not a cable modded to VGA (RGBHV) right?
), from every region, 50hz or 60hz, NTSC or PAL, all works. But the Megadrive is constantly losing sync. I tried to twitch the sync signal, but it is best set up at 9, and still losing sync almost every second. Here's my stuff:Argh! Next-neighbour scaling is what I want. In your opinion it looks cheap, but to me it looks God-like.Fudoh wrote:@RowanDDR:right, the XRGB adds the scanlines, the DVDO does the upscaling. But doesn't do any cheap integer next neighbour scaling, but real upscaling (resampling of each pixel).So I presume the XRGB unit is adding the scanlines, then the DVDO (Edge Green model ok?) will do the integer scaling?
Is there a scaler that can do next-neighbour scaling? As mentioned, I want to achieve integer scaling, using unfiltered stretch (nearest-neighbour), with proportional scanlines. The mini aparently does not do this in 1080p mode, please refer to my previous few posts to save me boring everyone in the thread with repeated moaning.Konsolkongen wrote:Isn't nearest neighbor scaling pretty much what you get when you let the XRGB mini upscale to 1080p...?
you won't find it, since nobody wants 896 visible lines on his 1080p panel. Also if you want integer scaling on the vertical, what do you want on the horizontal ? Using integer scaling on the lines is one thing (I least I get the idea), but using it on the horizontal completely screws up your aspect ratio. I mean, if you want shit, use emulation, it's as easy as that.In your opinion it looks cheap, but to me it looks God-like.
Wrong. I do. A little border around the screen is a small price to pay to achieve the beauty of integer scaling. Especially if like me, you're using a 50" or 60" panel, the viewport of the game is still huge even with borders.Fudoh wrote:nobody wants 896 visible lines on his 1080p panel
The choice is perfect AR, or perfect pixels (integer scaling). Personally I prefer perfect pixels, with a slightly off AR. I find it much more visually pleasing.Fudoh wrote:Also if you want integer scaling on the vertical, what do you want on the horizontal ? Using integer scaling on the lines is one thing (I least I get the idea), but using it on the horizontal completely screws up your aspect ratio.
Actually emulation is the only place I seem to be able to achieve my desired results, shit as you call it. MAME and ZSNES both offer integer, nearest-neighbour scaling with proportional scanlines, which I think looks great.I mean, if you want shit, use emulation, it's as easy as that.
so, you want to play CPS2 games in ultra-widescreen and SNES in a square box ? Good bye then.The choice is perfect AR, or perfect pixels (integer scaling). Personally I prefer perfect pixels, with a slightly off AR. I find it much more visually pleasing.
Jesus, keep your wig on. If anyone who doesn't have an attitude problem could offer some practical advice, it would be much appreciated.Fudoh wrote:so, you want to play CPS2 games in ultra-widescreen and SNES in a square box ? Good bye then.The choice is perfect AR, or perfect pixels (integer scaling). Personally I prefer perfect pixels, with a slightly off AR. I find it much more visually pleasing.
(PS: on the SFII shot you're using 3x integer on the horizontal and 4x on the vertical. That's a trick you can do on CPS games only. Doesn't help you anywhere else. Besides: both the scaling and the scanlines on your example look considerably worse than on the Mini.
Yes..instantly.RowanDDR wrote: ...
This is how Street Fighter looks in my MAME on 1080p screen... I am however using a bezel to mask the black border.
http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/7593/sf2u.jpg
Can you really tell that the aspect ratio is slightly off?
I think you're getting reactions like that because what you're searching for doesn't seem logical or practical to most people.RowanDDR wrote: Jesus, keep your wig on. If anyone who doesn't have an attitude problem could offer some practical advice, it would be much appreciated.
What Megadrive SCART cable and SCART to mini din 8 cables are you using? Console version? http://members.optusnet.com.au/eviltim/ ... m#megamstrarovane wrote:Fudoh, at least I am looking in the right place.
Do YOU know why japanese Megadrive (+ jap Mega CD + jap 32X) is out of sync??
Picture is jumping off every second and I just can't find why!! Works well with every other devices though (pc engine, neo geo, saturn, SNES etc...), and works well with Pal Megadrive too... but fuck 50hz!
Weird and very annoying. PLEEEASE help
