I missed the first one but this time around I am not gonna miss the chance I want to complete and recomplete my Xbox360 Cave CollectionKollision wrote:well, I sure would be one of the rape victims if Cave included a physical retail copy of GuwangePhellan Wolf wrote:We don't know for sure yet. Like the first one is gonna be said before release. Wait and see, and is gonna include something cool to rape everyone, Cave knows how to do that..KAI wrote:OSTs not included.
Not buying this one. I better wait for CAVE Shooting Collection Kan++ Bankrupt Edition.
but that's not going to happen so my virginity can rest in peace
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Been after the first collection for ages, not going to miss out on this one. 
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Is this region free?
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As far as I know, all of the games included are the same discs that they were released on separately. So Futari, ESPGaluda II, MMP/PS and SDOJ would be region free, and nothing else.Camp wrote:Is this region free?
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Is not even out yet and you know it already??? They'll probably using the same discs but not with all the games, remember 7 disc for the 12 games, dunno how many discs were included in the first collection though.Keres wrote:As far as I know, all of the games included are the same discs that they were released on separately. So Futari, ESPGaluda II, MMP/PS and SDOJ would be region free, and nothing else.Camp wrote:Is this region free?
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I would put it at 95% odds that the game disc portion of this package will be identical to the original Shooting Collection, except with SDOJ added in, and potentially minus the DLC disc (depending on whether that's actually being omitted or is just missing from the product description).Phellan Wolf wrote:Is not even out yet and you know it already??? They'll probably using the same discs but not with all the games, remember 7 disc for the 12 games, dunno how many discs were included in the first collection though.Keres wrote:As far as I know, all of the games included are the same discs that they were released on separately. So Futari, ESPGaluda II, MMP/PS and SDOJ would be region free, and nothing else.Camp wrote:Is this region free?
The only reference to "7 discs" that I can find in the Amazon description is referring specifically to the 7 Superplay DVDs, so I'm not sure where the "12 games on 7 discs" thing is coming from. Absolutely no offense intended at all to Rancor if I'm just missing it somewhere, though.
All I'm trying to say is that while there might be an outside chance that somehow all of these discs are new presses and are suddenly 100% region-free from top to bottom, I think it may be a bit too optimistic to hope for that. Let's keep our expectations in check.
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Sourcing it from this blog post, it's 11 games and the 7 superplay DVDs:Keres wrote:The only reference to "7 discs" that I can find in the Amazon description is referring specifically to the 7 Superplay DVDs, so I'm not sure where the "12 games on 7 discs" thing is coming from. Absolutely no offense intended at all to Rancor if I'm just missing it somewhere, though.
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Wow.Keres wrote: The only reference to "7 discs" that I can find in the Amazon description is referring specifically to the 7 Superplay DVDs, so I'm not sure where the "12 games on 7 discs" thing is coming from. Absolutely no offense intended at all to Rancor if I'm just missing it somewhere, though.
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They did do a "combined" re-issue, but I'm pretty sure it was just the two standalone games packaged together on separate discs (someone correct me if I'm off).rancor wrote: Although didn't they do a re-issue with DFK 1.5 and BL on a single disc?
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I assume that you are referring to the double-pack? It has two separate discs in one DVD case.BulletMagnet wrote:They did do a "combined" re-issue, but I'm pretty sure it was just the two standalone games packaged together on separate discs (someone correct me if I'm off).rancor wrote: Although didn't they do a re-issue with DFK 1.5 and BL on a single disc?
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Here at the Cave farm we only produce the finest Milk possible. Using pioneering pasteurising techniques for a creamier, fuller bodied Milk, we've managed to sustain our company without producing anything new for several years. After building a dedicated community of Milk drinkers, and seeing what the value our product would fetch in the aftermarket, we decided to give Cave Milk lovers everywhere exactly what they wanted, reprinting our scarcely available posters and artwork in abundance. When we released our Limited Edition Cave Milk, well, the community just lapped it up, even at the grand sum of $1500 USD. Although we had intentions of allowing this to remain exclusive to those willing patrons already bled dry, we also felt a responsibility to Milk drinkers the world over, so released the same Limited Edition Milk in a simpler format for a mere fraction of the price in abundant quantities within a year.
When we released our Limited Edition Milk Budget Collection, reusing left over Milk bottles and labels from our warehouse, it was besieged by our loyal community despite its tacky, low cost packaging. Consciously, we did leave our most recent Milk release out of the box, so only a year later, we could release a slightly newer Milk Budget Collection featuring its inclusion.
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~ The Finest in Dairy Since 1994 ~
Here at the Cave farm we only produce the finest Milk possible. Using pioneering pasteurising techniques for a creamier, fuller bodied Milk, we've managed to sustain our company without producing anything new for several years. After building a dedicated community of Milk drinkers, and seeing what the value our product would fetch in the aftermarket, we decided to give Cave Milk lovers everywhere exactly what they wanted, reprinting our scarcely available posters and artwork in abundance. When we released our Limited Edition Cave Milk, well, the community just lapped it up, even at the grand sum of $1500 USD. Although we had intentions of allowing this to remain exclusive to those willing patrons already bled dry, we also felt a responsibility to Milk drinkers the world over, so released the same Limited Edition Milk in a simpler format for a mere fraction of the price in abundant quantities within a year.
When we released our Limited Edition Milk Budget Collection, reusing left over Milk bottles and labels from our warehouse, it was besieged by our loyal community despite its tacky, low cost packaging. Consciously, we did leave our most recent Milk release out of the box, so only a year later, we could release a slightly newer Milk Budget Collection featuring its inclusion.
This is what makes Cave Co. Dairy survive. So remember, just when you think you've seen it all before; just when you think you've bought it already eight times over: We Milk, You Drink.
Cave Co. Ltd Milk Dairy & Pasteurising is not responsible for consumer satisfaction. We do not suggest at any point that we will undermine your unwavering allegiance and existing Milk collection as we see fit, but if you really haven't learned by now that we're milking you so we have something to pay the employees severance, you're daft.
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Phellan Wolf
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I can't read japanese so I used the info Rancor told a few posts ago.Keres wrote:Phellan Wolf wrote:Keres wrote: I would put it at 95% odds that the game disc portion of this package will be identical to the original Shooting Collection, except with SDOJ added in, and potentially minus the DLC disc (depending on whether that's actually being omitted or is just missing from the product description).
The only reference to "7 discs" that I can find in the Amazon description is referring specifically to the 7 Superplay DVDs, so I'm not sure where the "12 games on 7 discs" thing is coming from. Absolutely no offense intended at all to Rancor if I'm just missing it somewhere, though.
All I'm trying to say is that while there might be an outside chance that somehow all of these discs are new presses and are suddenly 100% region-free from top to bottom, I think it may be a bit too optimistic to hope for that. Let's keep our expectations in check.
In any case you are right as they will reusing old discs and I since this is the ultimate ultimate, till a new game or an Ultimate Collection for Ps3, as Skykid says all over again they need to milk people so the DLC has to be there and it has probably been ommited since they're probably using just a propagande that Cave might have given them, and like I said before the full content as off now is unknown till Cave officially anounces it.
As for you skykid, they can milk us everytime they want, but I'd rather prefere that than seeing them out of bussines cause right now they can make more shooters. Just my thoughts
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NOW you're using your head. Ibara Kuro is coming to disc: it's just a matter of time.Phellan Wolf wrote: In any case you are right as they will reusing old discs and I since this is the ultimate ultimate, till a new game or an Ultimate Collection for Ps3, as Skykid says all over again they need to milk people so the DLC has to be there and it has probably been ommited since they're probably using just a propagande that Cave might have given them, and like I said before the full content as off now is unknown till Cave officially anounces it.
They ain't making more shooters. They've done enough. Let them go. I love Cave for the great games they made, for the golden era when they reignited the arcade scene for me, like a surprise encore for a most beloved gaming pastime.they can milk us everytime they want, but I'd rather prefere that than seeing them out of bussines cause right now they can make more shooters. Just my thoughts
But these days they're on crutches and horribly boring. They don't make anything new, they make endless mistakes, and they have no scruples about completely abusing the allegiance they fostered amongst gamers.
Time to die, lost in time like tears in rain.
RIP, and no more milking.
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An Ibara Kuro HD port is one of my hottest dreams you know but since Xbox 360 is dead in Japan and Asada is gone I don't see it happen.
And come on dude, the world needs another Ketsui with a Yagawa BL mode.
And come on dude, the world needs another Ketsui with a Yagawa BL mode.
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Don't hold your breath.Phellan Wolf wrote: And come on dude, the world needs another Ketsui with a Yagawa BL mode.
Kuro will come out, probably in another collection at some point. Remember, even if Cave dissolves they're likely to sell or licence the rights to third party publishers to produce ports or collections for newer consoles. In the meantime you can blow close to £300 trying to get the current Cave collection to your door, which will be rendered inferior and obsolete sooner than you can say "What, already?!"
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I would consider getting this just to have all of the Cave games at last, but I already have at least 1/3rd of the collection individually and if it's true about the DLC disc not being in it then that's also a negative for me as I'd like to be able to play Mushihimesama's fancy blue version.
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if the DLCs are included and on disc, then I will get the collection this time.
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How do you plan on ordering it, given that you're in the UK?ozzie_owl wrote:Been after the first collection for ages, not going to miss out on this one.
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I missed the first release, so picking this up along with the upcoming bulletsoul is on my list. 

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BubbaMc wrote:How do you plan on ordering it, given that you're in the UK?ozzie_owl wrote:Been after the first collection for ages, not going to miss out on this one.
Didn't the sell the first edition trough several shops also ?
I'm not touching this though, I have collected enough CAVE shooting !
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Nope, the first collection was sold only on amazon.jp but you could get one from sites like nin nin for 10000¥ more or so though. Playasia might have also but you know as usual ain't gonna cheap comming from them.Casey120 wrote:BubbaMc wrote:How do you plan on ordering it, given that you're in the UK?ozzie_owl wrote:Been after the first collection for ages, not going to miss out on this one.
Didn't the sell the first edition trough several shops also ?
I'm not touching this though, I have collected enough CAVE shooting !
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Amazon page updated, DLC install disc is included.
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Cagar have a brain man. Your assessment of the business for business is spot on, they're trying to make money. No harm in that.
Their scruples as a company? Completely questionable. This is no new trend. Cave are excruciatingly smart at releasing items that appear to have some exclusivity to prey upon the fastidiousness of their loyal fanbase. They're utterly shrewd at making something appear unique and one-off, only to (very quickly) diminish its value by making it obsolete or widely available in no time at all.
Don't believe it's innocent. I didn't buy the budget collection first time around and I won't be buying this one because I bought all their games first time around.
But those poor saps who bought an incomplete 'ultimate' collection for a vast sum only to find its now been relegated to the box no-one really wants?
Well, that's Cave style business.
Their scruples as a company? Completely questionable. This is no new trend. Cave are excruciatingly smart at releasing items that appear to have some exclusivity to prey upon the fastidiousness of their loyal fanbase. They're utterly shrewd at making something appear unique and one-off, only to (very quickly) diminish its value by making it obsolete or widely available in no time at all.
Don't believe it's innocent. I didn't buy the budget collection first time around and I won't be buying this one because I bought all their games first time around.
But those poor saps who bought an incomplete 'ultimate' collection for a vast sum only to find its now been relegated to the box no-one really wants?
Well, that's Cave style business.
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Glad to hear the DLC disc is indeed included. So if I understand correctly, it's the same "once-in-a-lifetime" collection + SDOJ.

Cagarette my man, you're missing the most important part of Skykid's post:Cagarette wrote:???![]()
Stop smoking weeds and pay attention to the precedence for this Cave merch trend, and you'll see.This is no new trend.
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Damn it, I've said it so many times in this thread. And also extra soundtracks are gonna be included and this time around I am sure they will package them inside the box and not spare like they did with the first one.SuperDeadite wrote:Amazon page updated, DLC install disc is included.
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I'm with Cagar on this one. Sure, collectors are going to feel like their exclusive items are being devalued but more discs on the market is a good thing.
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Phellan Wolf wrote:also extra soundtracks are gonna be included and this time around I am sure they will package them inside the box and not spare like they did with the first one.
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You overestimate CAVE 
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