Judgement Silversword: Rebirth Edition

Palmer Eldritch · Post by **Palmer Eldritch** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:52 am

So, after two years of tracking this somewhat elusive bastard, I finally found a (brand new no less) copy last week.

Excellent. Been playing it over the weekend and it truly does shine.
Perhaps this is a stupid question, but am I playing it in tate?

Post by **Ghegs** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:21 am

Moved to Shmups Chat.

Well, you're playing the game so that the screen is taller than wider, so...yes, that's tate.

And congratulations on finding the game, it's a gem.

Palmer Eldritch · Post by **Palmer Eldritch** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:33 am

Ghegs wrote:Moved to Shmups Chat.

Christ, I must be tired. Where did I create the new topic?

Well, you're playing the game so that the screen is taller than wider, so...yes, that's tate.

Well duh!

What I meant to ask is whether or not it´s true tate (if such a thing even exists)...I guess I´m just amazed at what the Wonderswan´s pulling off in terms of sheer technical wizardry here.

And congratulations on finding the game, it's a gem.

Thanks. It´s excellent. And I can play it on the go.

Post by **Ghegs** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:34 am

Palmer Eldritch wrote:Christ, I must be tired. Where did I create the new topic?

It was in Off Topic.

Well duh! What I meant to ask is whether or not it´s true tate (if such a thing even exists)...I guess I´m just amazed at what the Wonderswan´s pulling off in terms of sheer technical wizardry here.

What is "true tate" if not this?

Wonderswan's designed in a way that makes vertical games effortless to play, after all. Works great with Tetris, too.

Come to think of it, all my WSC games (whooping two of them) are in tate...I've never used the A and B buttons.

Thanks. It´s excellent. And I can play it on the go.

You can? I find the SwanCrystal's screen so crappy I can't see anything unless I'm directly under a light source. Unless, of course, you have modded your system with an additional light.

Palmer Eldritch · Post by **Palmer Eldritch** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:41 am

Ghegs wrote:You can? I find the SwanCrystal's screen so crappy I can't see anything unless I'm directly under a light source. Unless, of course, you have modded your system with an additional light.

No that was figuratively speaking.

Screen´s only optimal under a direct lightsource, especially for JS.

No modding for me on this one.

Super Laydock · Post by **Super Laydock** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:14 pm

Congratlations on finding this superb little game!

If you feel like playing a little competitively, then take a look here and feel free
to post your high scores. It should not be that hard to beat mine at least ...

Soldato J · Post by **Soldato J** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:48 pm

Mind stating how much it set you back? I have been looking for a couple of years but never below 150....

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:28 pm

Soldato J wrote:Mind stating how much it set you back? I have been looking for a couple of years but never below 150....

150 bucks?!

This shmup must really be something, given that it isn't even on a handheld that's back-lit, for it to cost that much! ZanacXZanc isn't even that expensive.

Palmer Eldritch · Post by **Palmer Eldritch** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:38 pm

dave4shmups wrote: ZanacXZanc isn't even that expensive.

ZanacXZanac isn´t as good a game either.

Palmer Eldritch · Post by **Palmer Eldritch** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:40 pm

Soldato J wrote:Mind stating how much it set you back? I have been looking for a couple of years but never below 150....

Don´t mind it at all. $140. I would probably have paid even more if that was indeed the price, but I just got lucky here, I guess.

Soldato J · Post by **Soldato J** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:40 pm

dave4shmups wrote:
Soldato J wrote:Mind stating how much it set you back? I have been looking for a couple of years but never below 150....
150 bucks?! This shmup must really be something, given that it isn't even on a handheld that's back-lit, for it to cost that much! ZanacXZanc isn't even that expensive.

Methinks Zanac and Border Down both could be in 150 territory in the next couple of years...

PS Thanks Palmer

Palmer Eldritch · Post by **Palmer Eldritch** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:43 pm

Super Laydock wrote:Congratlations on finding this superb little game!

If you feel like playing a little competitively, then take a look here and feel free
to post your high scores. It should not be that hard to beat mine at least ...

Heh!
Thanks. Will do. I´ll "train" some more before I go up against you guys though.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:01 pm

Soldato J wrote:
dave4shmups wrote:
Soldato J wrote:Mind stating how much it set you back? I have been looking for a couple of years but never below 150....
150 bucks?! This shmup must really be something, given that it isn't even on a handheld that's back-lit, for it to cost that much! ZanacXZanc isn't even that expensive.
Methinks Zanac and Border Down both could be in 150 territory in the next couple of years...

PS Thanks Palmer

Probably, but whatever floats your boat. It's too bad that it's so tough to capture gameplay footage from handhelds, otherwise it would be nice to see some Super Plays of this game. I have seen some videos of it before, and it does look pretty fun. Isn't there a PC version that's cheaper then the WSC version? I wouldn't mind getting a WSC, as they're pretty cheap, even new, but other then JSS and Dicing Knight, I probably wouldn't get any use out of it.

DC906270 · Post by **DC906270** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:43 pm

I probably wouldn't get any use out of it.

Rainbow Islands, and Makaimura are other worthwhile games for WS. Mr Driller, too.

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:56 pm

Langrisser Millennium: The Last Century for the WS is also a worthy SRPG true to Langrisser roots.

Speaking of prices, I saw JSS for $75 new with that wristband thing just a few months ago but felt that someone with more interest in the game ought to get it. You can find it cheap if you're lucky and patient.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:15 pm

Cool, thanks!

So, are there any good videos of this game up? I thought there were at least a few at one point-like on Jigsawman's FTP site, or something.

CIT · Post by **CIT** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:10 am

People be careful!!! Don't shell out ridiculous amounts for this game!

Judgement Silversword got a 2nd printing in Japan at the end of last year, so the price for the game has fallen considerably in Japan. I got my copy brand new for $70!

The reprints have the logo of "Happy Field Project" on the box and before the game starts, other than that there is no difference. The first print versions now run about $100-120 in Japan.

As for the game, it is the best portable shooter, period. A brilliant mix of Star Soldier and Giga Wing that really milks the WS hardware for all it's worth. The gameplay is extremely score-centric and you will not be able to finish it without getting dozens of extends.

As for other Wonderswan games, check out Rhyme Rider Kerorikan, it was made by the dude who made Vib Ribbon, and does amazing things with the WS. And the screen is in fact held diagonally! o_O

Post by **undamned** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:25 am

Thanks for the heads-up, CIT.
-ud

Palmer Eldritch · Post by **Palmer Eldritch** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:08 am

CIT wrote: Judgement Silversword got a 2nd printing in Japan at the end of last year, so the price for the game has fallen considerably in Japan. I got my copy brand new for $70!

The reprints have the logo of "Happy Field Project" on the box and before the game starts, other than that there is no difference.

Yep. That´s the one I got. The HFP logo is also in the game as well as an updated copyright saying 2001, 2005.

Soldato J · Post by **Soldato J** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:10 pm

Yeah, thanks for the tip CIT. I will keep a hopeful eye out--in the meantime any forum-goers please post here if you happen upon a cheap JSS...

Keroican was one of the games I meant to get from Matt Boehland and never got around to it; have not seen it since

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:10 pm

CIT wrote:People be careful!!! Don't shell out ridiculous amounts for this game!

Judgement Silversword got a 2nd printing in Japan at the end of last year, so the price for the game has fallen considerably in Japan. I got my copy brand new for $70!

The reprints have the logo of "Happy Field Project" on the box and before the game starts, other than that there is no difference. The first print versions now run about $100-120 in Japan.

As for the game, it is the best portable shooter, period. A brilliant mix of Star Soldier and Giga Wing that really milks the WS hardware for all it's worth. The gameplay is extremely score-centric and you will not be able to finish it without getting dozens of extends.

As for other Wonderswan games, check out Rhyme Rider Kerorikan, it was made by the dude who made Vib Ribbon, and does amazing things with the WS. And the screen is in fact held diagonally! o_O

Yeah, thanks!

Are Play-Asia or any other import stores stocking this reprint edition? I'm just wondering where the best place to look for this game would be; I've never seen it on Ebay.

jp · Post by jp » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:15 pm

dave4shmups wrote:
CIT wrote:People be careful!!! Don't shell out ridiculous amounts for this game!

Judgement Silversword got a 2nd printing in Japan at the end of last year, so the price for the game has fallen considerably in Japan. I got my copy brand new for $70!

The reprints have the logo of "Happy Field Project" on the box and before the game starts, other than that there is no difference. The first print versions now run about $100-120 in Japan.

As for the game, it is the best portable shooter, period. A brilliant mix of Star Soldier and Giga Wing that really milks the WS hardware for all it's worth. The gameplay is extremely score-centric and you will not be able to finish it without getting dozens of extends.

As for other Wonderswan games, check out Rhyme Rider Kerorikan, it was made by the dude who made Vib Ribbon, and does amazing things with the WS. And the screen is in fact held diagonally! o_O
Yeah, thanks! Are Play-Asia or any other import stores stocking this reprint edition? I'm just wondering where the best place to look for this game would be; I've never seen it on Ebay.

Indeed... I too would be interested in acquiring this title.

Whats the best model of the WonderSwan btw?

Edit:
Damn you all, I just bought Judgement Silversword. -_-

Now I need to buy a Wonderswan.

Soldato J · Post by **Soldato J** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:19 pm

JP, the best Wonderswan is the Swan Crystal (much better screen, etc--it was the last iteration of the handheld)

I want this too--please reveal sources for cheap version (relatively speaking) someone!

Dylan1CC · Post by **Dylan1CC** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:49 pm

I'll second that, I'd like a source for this too. Don't have the system to play it on (yet) but that never stopped me before.

edit: And not wanting to get the thread too OT but anyone here play the WS Klonoa?

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:57 am

Alright, since you all asked so nicely, here's a new 2nd batch copy of JSS with a strap for $76 + around $10 shipping:

EDIT: gone

Not sure how many copies are left. But as CIT stated, please note that this is a NORMAL price for a sealed JSS in Japan. It's just that there's so much ignorant collector demand and irrational exuberance on Ebay and other non-JP communities (absolutely no offense meant to you folks who were truly that interested in the game to pay that much) that prices are sometimes unusually high online.

PC Engine Fan X! · Post by **PC Engine Fan X!** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:20 am

I've seen WSC Judgement SilverSword for sale on eBay from time to time. You just gotta search for it, that's all... ^_~

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

Soldato J · Post by **Soldato J** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:00 pm

Way to come through Ganelon...to bad I am broke until next week

Fingers crossed that it survives and is still available until then XX

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:16 pm

Soldato J wrote:Way to come through Ganelon...to bad I am broke until next week

Fingers crossed that it survives and is still available until then XX

I'm broke until I get another job, so I here 'ya. Still, very much appreciated Ganelon!

Palmer Eldritch · Post by **Palmer Eldritch** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:16 pm

Ganelon wrote:Alright, since you all asked so nicely, here's a new 2nd batch copy of JSS with a strap for $76 + around $10 shipping:

Sold out already. Anybody here got themselves a copy?

Post by **BulletMagnet** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:40 pm

Stupid question: is there any sort of notable difference between the "regular" Judgement Silversword and the "Rebirth Edition," or is the latter just a plain ol' re-release? or are they one and the same?

shmups.system11.org

Judgement Silversword: Rebirth Edition

Judgement Silversword: Rebirth Edition

WSC JSS appears on eBay from time to time...