Framemeister issues with Gamecube and SCART

[Stard]

Hi! I recently bought a Framemeister for Gamecube/PS2/N64 but I'm having an issue conecting through SCART.

My GC and PS2 are PAL, N64 is NTSC. Framemeister came with a EuroSCART to mini CSYNC cable from retrogamingcables, and all consoles have a composite cable. I'm using a SCART adapter to plug them to the EuroSCART cable. The setup goes like this: composite cable - SCART adapter - EuroSCART to mini - Framemeister

The thing is, whenever I use the EuroSCART to mini cable I only get sound but no image (black screen), but when I use the composite straight to the framemeister it works fine - just with the image a little wonky. Conecting the composite + SCART adapter straigh to the TV works too. I made sure RGB was selected in the framemeister, also tried to move sync lvl in the settings, but only got a blue screen instead of black.

I'm new to this so I don't know if I'm missing something. What I heard is that SCART is the second best option for GC/PS2, being component cable the best option but the GC's is too expensive. I know that there's another set up for N64 but I'm prioritizing GC/PS2 first.

Thank you in advance

[Thomago]

You aren't delivering an RGB signal to your Framemeister, but a mere Composite signal. You need actual RGB cables for your consoles, leading to a setup that goes like this:
RGB cable - EuroSCART to mini - Framemeister

[Guspaz]

For a PAL gamecube to RGB SCART, something like this:

https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/SUP ... CART-CABLE

I'd note, however, that the Framemeister is very obsolete, and I would not pay more than around $100-150 USD for one today, since there are better modern options that can be bought new that start around there.

[Stard]

You aren't delivering an RGB signal to your Framemeister, but a mere Composite signal. You need actual RGB cables for your consoles, leading to a setup that goes like this:
RGB cable - EuroSCART to mini - Framemeister

For a PAL gamecube to RGB SCART, something like this:

https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/SUP ... CART-CABLE

I'd note, however, that the Framemeister is very obsolete, and I would not pay more than around $100-150 USD for one today, since there are better modern options that can be bought new that start around there.

Oookay, makes sense now. Thank you! I'll buy that cable then. It would be the same set up for PS2?

Also, what are those other better modern options you mentioned?

[PC Engine Fan X!]

You aren't delivering an RGB signal to your Framemeister, but a mere Composite signal. You need actual RGB cables for your consoles, leading to a setup that goes like this:
RGB cable - EuroSCART to mini - Framemeister

For a PAL gamecube to RGB SCART, something like this:

https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/SUP ... CART-CABLE

I'd note, however, that the Framemeister is very obsolete, and I would not pay more than around $100-150 USD for one today, since there are better modern options that can be bought new that start around there.

Oookay, makes sense now. Thank you! I'll buy that cable then. It would be the same set up for PS2?

Also, what are those other better modern options you mentioned?

Fot Stard,

Yes, be sure to pick a PAL PS2 Scart cable. A couple better upscalers would the Retrotink 5X or the Retrotink 4K would be your best bet nowadays.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[Stard]

Yes, be sure to pick a PAL PS2 Scart cable. A couple better upscalers would the Retrotink 5X or the Retrotink 4K would be your best bet nowadays.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

I'm trying to get this PS2 PAL Scart cable but even in stock it won't let me select the lenght. I found this other cable but since my EURO scart adapter to my framemeister is a mini CSYNC, can this be a problem to the signal?

[PC Engine Fan X!]

Yes, be sure to pick a PAL PS2 Scart cable. A couple better upscalers would the Retrotink 5X or the Retrotink 4K would be your best bet nowadays.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

I'm trying to get this PS2 PAL Scart cable but even in stock it won't let me select the lenght. I found this other cable but since my EURO scart adapter to my framemeister is a mini CSYNC, can this be a problem to the signal?

For Stard,

That second link for a PS2 scart cable with CSync is the one to get, so no worries using it with your Framemeister. Both above mentioned Retrotink 5X Pro and Retrotink 4K upscalers do accept Scart input from your gaming consoles as well.

PC Engine Fan X! ^_~

[Guspaz]

Better options might include the OSSC, OSSC Pro, RetroTINK 5X, and RetroTINK 4K. There are some others like the Morph that might eventually be better options than the Framemeister, but still need time to cook.

The base OSSC is the most affordable option, but is only better depending on the use case. It's a lot easier to use than the Framemeister, and is quite a bit more capable in many ways, not to mention supporting higher resolution output, but its deinterlacing ability is more basic and it doesn't support composite or s-video inputs, only RGB and YPbPr. By the time you get to the RetroTINK 5X, it matches or exceeds the Framemeister in every category, and the RetroTINK 4K is just massively ahead in every way.

The Framemeister is ~13 years old at this point, and was discontinued/abandoned by Micomsoft years ago. Its current retail price ($425 USD) puts it as far more expensive than the OSSC ($125 USD), OSSC Pro ($315 USD), or RetroTINK 5X ($325 USD), though still cheaper than the RetroTINK 4K ($750 USD), though the RetroTINK 4K is really a whole other class of device, as you might guess from its name.

For people who don't need composite/s-video or a high quality deinterlacer, the OSSC is really still a bargain. You've got a PS2 though, so you'd want the higher quality deinterlacing that you'd get from the OSSC Pro or RetroTINK 5X, but both of those are still both cheaper and better options than the Framemeister.