The Shooting volume 37 double shienryu, how is it? (PS2-J)

[tekneekz]

this game any good i might order it for my collection since its only 25 bucks.

[Xexyz]

Haven't played Shienryu II, but the origional is worth $25 alone (although there is a cheaper budget release titled Geki-oh: Shooting King for the U.S. PS1). Shienryu is a heavily inspired Toaplan esque shmup.

Artistic wise, it's like a mix between Raiden and Truxton with a bit of manic style thrown in. It has a basic scoring system (shoot = points, no chaining), 3 power up types, speed up increase icons, and of coarse bombs, which are plentiful.

[professor ganson]

I found the following review helpful, and I'm glad I got the game.

http://www.classicgaming.com/shmups/rev ... index.html

[BulletMagnet]

Haven't played Shienryu II, but the origional is worth $25 alone (although there is a cheaper budget release titled Geki-oh: Shooting King for the U.S. PS1).

One thing to note about Geki-Oh is that, while it has a few other play modes in it (most nothing to write home about, some fun though), it doesn't include tate mode...the PS2 port has it, but neither of the above ports of the original Shienryu save high scores. I think the Saturn port does though...

In any event, while I don't find either game on the pack to be extraordinary or anything like that, for the price it's not a bad deal at all. Recently they actually released a "double pack" of it, which packages both of the Shienryus with some other "Simple" release...and I think, oddly enough, it might be even cheaper than buying the Shienryu pack by itself.

[tekneekz]

for that link you showed me is that one of the game it comes with. does it come with two games in one?

[professor ganson]

for that link you showed me is that one of the game it comes with. does it come with two games in one?

That's right. You get the original Shienryu and Shienryu Explosion. But be careful about what you order: there is also a double pack that is similar but has some helicopter sim included.

You want this:
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-r-7 ... 0-2ko.html

[MovingTarget]

I bought this in the UK as 'Steel Dragon Ex', which is basically shienryu and the recent remake. Theres no mension of Shienryu on the box but it is definetly what it is. The recent version is a bit shit and way too easy, while the original is definetly worth buying.

[tekneekz]

thx professor

[BulletMagnet]

Here's the "double pack" in case you're interested:

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-r-7 ... 0-p9y.html

Still has both Shienryus on it, plus whatever the helicopter thing is...same exact price on PA. IIRC on YesAsia it's actually cheaper.

[CIT]

Shienryu: Very good port on PS2. Tate and low res! Just like the excellent Saturn port. I'm not 100% sure the PS2 version saves scores, but the Saturn one does.

Shienryu Explosion: Pretty easy, but it actually has a pretty complex and very enjoyable scoring system! I think this is a pretty cool and very underrated game.

[Ganelon]

Um, why wouldn't you get the Helicopter game anyway if it's essentially free? Don't want the ugly cover art and split instructions or something?

[professor ganson]

Um, why wouldn't you get the Helicopter game anyway if it's essentially free? Don't want the ugly cover art and split instructions or something?

Exactly.

[dave4shmups]

this game any good i might order it for my collection since its only 25 bucks.

It's worth it for Shienryu Explosion alone; which is a fantastic oldschool shmup. And Shienryu is arcade-perfect, although it's not full-screen in this port, which is odd considering that it's an ST-V shmup.

[subcons]

It's worth it for Shienryu Explosion alone; which is a fantastic oldschool shmup. And Shienryu is arcade-perfect, although it's not full-screen in this port, which is odd considering that it's an ST-V shmup.

It is full screen in TATE mode. I haven't played this in a long, but I'm pretty sure I remeber it supporting TATE on the PS2 version...?

I do concur on Explosion. A nice little shooter. Not ugly at all... maybe a bit uninspired is more true. But the scoring system more than makes up for it. It kind of combines gimmicks from more modern shooters of the past decade. Very enjoyable. And just an FYI, Explosion is a vert, but isn't TATE, ala Mars Matrix/GigaWing 2.

A no-brainer. For the price, this should definitely be in your collection.

[BulletMagnet]

It is full screen in TATE mode. I haven't played this in a long, but I'm pretty sure I remeber it supporting TATE on the PS2 version...?

Yep, as was said in an earlier post, it includes tate mode, and also has a low-res option. The only thing it's missing is the high-score save...an odd omission, since Shienryu Explosion has it.

[bcass]

IIRC, Shienryu on the Saturn only saves to the battery backup in the Saturn, it doesn't detect or use the RAM cart. You can however, manually backup your score file from battery backup to RAM cart.

[DC906270]

Just got this, the version with "The Helicopter" on the 2nd disc. Doesnt seem to have a Tate option for either of the Shienryu games, anybody help?

[BulletMagnet]

Shienryu Explosion is designed to play in yoko mode, so you don't need to worry about tate for that one.

As for Shienryu, there is a way to access an Options menu, which includes the tate options, from the title screen, though it's done in a weird way, I forget exactly how...I think when the blinking text says "Press Start," you have to press a certain direction on the control pad (I forget which) to change the blinking text to "Options Menu," or something like that. Fiddle around a bit, sorry I couldn't remember more specifically.

[DC906270]

thanks man, i accessed the options menu by pressing down when the game prompts you to press start. ah, tate. much better.

[professor ganson]

thanks man, i accessed the options menu by pressing down when the game prompts you to press start. ah, tate. much better.

Yeah, this one took me a while to figure out as well.

[MSZ]

You guys didn't read the manual before you play the game?

I guess the Japanese language is just too hard for some.

[SAM]

Shienryu: Very good port on PS2. Tate and low res! Just like the excellent Saturn port. I'm not 100% sure the PS2 version saves scores, but the Saturn one does.

Shienryu Explosion: Pretty easy, but it actually has a pretty complex and very enjoyable scoring system! I think this is a pretty cool and very underrated game.

CIT pretty much said it all here. What I don't know is Shienryu Explosion got a complex scoring system, 1cc it on my first attempt then sold the game in favour of the Saturn verion.

[iatneH]

I already have a ST-V cart of Shienryu, but $20 for the PS2 release (with that strange Helicopter bonus) is looking very attractive...

Besides, it takes me forever to set up my supergun :\

[sjewkestheloon]

i currently own the pal version and i can't play ps2 imports but as soon as i can get my hands on a slid etool i'll be getting the import to get rid of those nasty borders and lack of 60hz. explosion would be great with the higher speed and full screen as a nice pick up and play shmups wiht an interesting scoring mechanic.

[iatneH]

I just ordered this from yesasia along with a white PSP (and an older Rainie CD ).. It's the 2-in-1 thing with "The Helicopter".

Does anyone else have this? Just what kind of game exactly is this helicopter thing...

[BulletMagnet]

I actually have the "Double Pack" thing too, but to tell the truth I've never gone ahead and tried the helicopter game...

In any event, even if you don't like it the 2-disc pack costs the same as Double Shienryu costs by itself, so it's not like you've got to justify any extra cash spent, heh heh.

[iatneH]

OK, my 2-in-1 pack came, and interestingly enough I've spent more time playing The Helicopter.

For anybody else who has played this game, I'm stuck at one of the missions in the school, something to do with washing windows, but I don't know what I'm supposed to do. I can barely read what the teacher says, I'm guessing I have to shoot the windows with the cleaner, and then blow dry them? Help...?

Oh, and this game has nudity!

edit: nevermind, I figured it out...

[Arznei]

I was thinking of buying this as well. There's a video on youtube (actually the guy has countless Simple Series promo videos) of this game and it looked quite interesting. For the price you can't go wrong, I suppose?

Although I'm a bit cautious of Saturn shooting titles. The last one I played was Sexy Parodius, and, well....

[BulletMagnet]

Although I'm a bit cautious of Saturn shooting titles. The last one I played was Sexy Parodius, and, well....

From here it sounds a bit odd to be wary of a shooter just because it was released on a certain system...after all, Sexy Parodius was also released on PS1, and apparently plays pretty much the same on both systems. And heck, if you don't like the Gradius/Parodius style, it's not going to matter what system you play it on, heh heh.

As for Shienryu itself, most people are tempted to compare it to Raiden in terms of its "style." Shienryu Explosion, for its part, has only appeared on PS2, and has a more in-depth scoring system (read the review on the shmups.com main page, it explains it pretty well), though it's also easier.

[professor ganson]

Yeah, Shienryu is a bit like a Raiden-lite in the earlier levels, though I hear the last boss is a real drag. Shienryu Explosion, iirc, has more bullets but moving slowly. I was able to 1cc on the first night or so, so it's more about high-score than survival.