32" monitors with low/no lag

[Fusion916]

It seems there is a lot of options for low latency 27" monitors, but I don't know of any (consumer) that are 32". I know there are open frame industrial 32" monitors such as the ones in the viewlix cabs, but I was looking for a common consumer model. Am I missing any good options?

[Hoagtech]

Too many to list.

I would stay away from 1080i supported models and you’ll find one very easily with no lag

Here’s the Sacramento Craigslist for 32”

https://sacramento.craigslist.org/searc ... v&sort=rel

[Xyga]

Hoag dude you might as well tell him to dump dive! ^^

Let's have a look at what he asked since we know at least a few of those;

LG 32MP58HQ
good;
nice glossy (clear and clean coating but reflective) IPS panel, lag: 3ms (top) 10ms (middle) 17ms (bottom) so basically lagless for a 60hz.
okay scaling, good response with useable overdrive (better than your average tv at least)
bad;
only 1 hdmi and 1 vga, no speakers, vesa mounting is 200x100 and off-centered, frame is cheap glossy plastic and provided stand wobbly
shitty jog-button to navigate menus.aspect ratio controls are meh...
Can only take up to x3 and x4 mode with OSSC and that's pushing, on the pc side met with a problem while using complex overlays in MAME

there's a 'business' variant called 32MA70HY with added displayport and some split-screen feature, but it should be identical otherwise (check yourself if coating etc are the same or not)

Samsung S32F351 (LS32F351FUNXZA in the US)
good;
really good glossy VA panel for the price, lag: 6ms (top) 13ms (middle) 20ms (bottom) so really close to lagless. it's the brightest and most vivid of the three, with good deep blacks and great contrast, response is decent for a VA but it's slightly below the other two which are IPS and so naturally more responsive.
bad;
the scaling is good but not ideal in some cases, mainly if you're using fake scanlines (OSSC, XRGB, SLG3000) because as it is often the case with Samsung the interpolation is a bit too sharp and more revealing of the unevenness/artifacts. aspect ratio controls are meh as well...
only two HDMI inputs, off-centered 100x100 vesa mounting, white casing, shitty jog-button to navigate menus

ViewSonic VX3211-mh (afaik not available in US-CA, but there is a 1440p variant called VX3211-2K-mhd)
good;
it's the smarter, stronger bro of the LG 32MP58HQ, using the same IPS panel with glossy coating, and lag measurements are identical as well.
but that's about the only things they share since almost everything else is better on the Viewonic;
- takes all OSSC modes including x5 1080p 1:1
- if you want it can by itself overscan the other modes (2x, 3x, 4x) to eliminate most of the black borders
- scaling is good in all situations even with overscan on, even the sharpness settings are nice and useable
- aspect ratio controls are perfect and accessible in all situations
- I'd say the panel response is also a tiny bit better than the 32MP58's, overdrive is also useable
- this one has speakers with in/out jacks, the quality is rather bad and volume control not ideal, but the input/output can save
- much better quality harder matte plastic frame and firm stand
- I think Thomago said it can handle 50Hz and 70Hz too
bad;
only 1 HDMI and 1 VGA, note the overscan trick works only on the HDMI input
100x100 vesa mounting is again off-centered
you could import one with someone's help but you know it ain't easy

I'd assume the 1440p variant has a better IPS panel, dunno if the coating is the same glossy type. you can expect it to share a lot of specs and features with that full-hd I've just described, but the behaviour in terms of scaling, lag and response could be different (no x5 1:1 mode anyway)
these things can be guessed to some extent, bad surprises happen with untested models though

It's pretty okay though to assume most full-HD monitors today come with decently performing IPS and VA panels, with low lag (easily sub-1 frame if not half or a quarter). They will all handle HD consoles and a computer without any issues..
Problem is without a proper review doing the basic tests, you can only choose the coating, connectivity, speakers/mounting etc
The most unkown things always happen in the internals (compatibility, scaling, ascpect, off-refreshes handling, etc) and no manufacturer or retail product page will give you any useful and reliable information about that. Amazon, newegg etc customer opinions are filled with absolute misleading bullshit, well over 9/10 people who write there have no idea what they're talking about so beware.

All the monitors I've mentioned are glossy, they're quite reflective in a bright room, so if that's not your thing you have to go for one with a matte /anti-glare coating.
I haven't checked them all so it's up to you but here are some more commonly found models at the moment, with no real reliable reviews i can't tell you their worth;
VIOTEK H320
AOC i3207VW3
ASUS VA VA325H
Philips 323E7QDAB
etc

Moar things;
- avoid curved variants, those have typically worse performance and issues you don't want. better keep it simple.
- several have WQHD 1440p variants, typically using higher quality panels at least for the IPSes, some get tested others not, gathering info if sometimes tough but there are good reviews websites like pcmonitors.info or tftcentral.co.uk and several other in various languages
- newer more expensive 4K 32" are available but even having higher resolution those are known to cause even more trouble with scaling, paradoxically. some might be actually good at it but the poor tests even in the most serious reviews aren't thorough-enough for the conscious retrogamer (if native 4K is your goal though then nevermind scaling)
- if you're going to use this in a cab with a custom frame mind the bloody menu buttons and where they're located on the monitor's casing , because even if you'll rarely access those it'll be hell every time if you have to disassemble the whole thing

[BONKERS]

^^ Mentioned what I was going to mention.

[Xyga]

Forgot to mention the ViewSonic has a set of buttons on the right side that are also quite difficult to use.

Because bezels have become thinner we've lost front side buttons and that's a stupid design flaw of modern displays.

Well, here it's only ~200 bucks models so it's not like you can complain about all the little things for the price, but still, many people return the products they've bought for less than that.
Bezelless/borderless is one of the most useless trends in tech, seriously.

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EDIT: I think it's also necessary to add info about rotating stands for large screens;

- Personally I use a cheap Digitus DA-90346 (up to 100x100) that's meant for 27" but can carry 32" since the pole is tall-enough and modern monitors pretty light.
But it's not heavy-duty meaning when tate-ing (portrait) I let the bottom of the display rest on the foot, which greatly stabilizes and nullifies wear on the mechanism.

- A more serious one should be the Crimson AV DS134, which accomodates up to 34" (?) and vesa 200x100, but it's expensive at 100 or more.

None of those can compensate for off-centered vesa holes on the monitor's back though. Maybe adapter plates to re-center exist but I very much doubt so, maybe it'd be best to DIY...

If you know other models that are at least useable for 32" let us know.