Hello all,
I am currently using this component to vga Passthrough adapter.
I have two monitors that allow me to change the color from RGB to YPbPr allowing me to use my component systems (Xbox, PS2, PSP, and Wii) On my 1080p Monitor. and both monitors work great with it. However the one I want to primarily use Absolutely Crushes the Blacks to a point where it is almost un-playable. The other monitor has no problem with it however it is a 1200p monitor and does not accept 240p. So I am wondering what is the best available Component to VGA Passthrough adapter that I can purchase right now. I found Gunstar's Post talking about Component to VGA Transcorders and the black levels in this post viewtopic.php?f=6&t=59613 But the ones that he recommended I can not find anywhere. I know about the Garo, but that converts the signal to VGA. And if i have a monitor that can take YPbPr already then i don't really want to spend $80. But if people think that is the best way to go then that's probably what I will have to do. But any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Last edited by Danster5 on Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:58 am, edited 1 time in total.
It's probably not exactly what you're looking for, and it's probably out of your price range, but it sounds like the OSSC would work for you. It supports component video natively, and it will work around the lack of support for 240p in your 1920x1200 monitor.
nmalinoski wrote:It's probably not exactly what you're looking for, and it's probably out of your price range, but it sounds like the OSSC would work for you. It supports component video natively, and it will work around the lack of support for 240p in your 1920x1200 monitor.
Yeah the OSSC is something I have considered. But since my set up is able to handle a much cheaper option i am looking for that option at the moment. But it is something that I have considered so thank you for the suggestion and it may be my final option.
I may be wrong, but I don't think that passthrough adapters alter the video signal in any way - after all they just re-route the wires to a different connector (in this case, from 3RCA to VGA/HD15). Maybe your display just needs to be re-calibrated when you switch to YPbPr?
I have a garo and don't think you need it. If your monitor can take YPbPr then a garo will be no advantage unless you want the scanline option. It also won't fix the colour or your monitor not being able to display 240p. I would try calibrating like Xer Xian said but it sounds like an OSSC is what you're looking for.
Xer Xian wrote:I may be wrong, but I don't think that passthrough adapters alter the video signal in any way - after all they just re-route the wires to a different connector (in this case, from 3RCA to VGA/HD15). Maybe your display just needs to be re-calibrated when you switch to YPbPr?
Yeah, I know its something with that monitor, since the other monitor i have does not crush the blacks but that monitor can not do 240p like the one the crushes the blacks can. I have tried re-calibrating it but nothing changes. So monitors just may be screwy. But i know that some bass through adapters do crush blacks more than others (Check out Gunstar's Post that I linked at the top). I would love to pick up that Mayflash Box but i can't seem to find it available anywhere.
DoomsDave wrote:I have a garo and don't think you need it. If your monitor can take YPbPr then a garo will be no advantage unless you want the scanline option. It also won't fix the colour or your monitor not being able to display 240p. I would try calibrating like Xer Xian said but it sounds like an OSSC is what you're looking for.
I agree I don't think i need it. But i wondered if converting the componnet signal to vga might help with the black levels. But i agree its something that I dont need. Also the issue isn't the 240p as my monitor is able to display 240p, but it crushes the blacks when playing 480p and up content as well. The most notable game i have tested was Halo for the Original Xbox. Just like Gunstar tested in his post that I linked above. OSSC is my final purchase but since i have monitors that can take advantage of component without the need for an OSSC i was looking at doing that in the meantime.
Actually the ones tested by Gunstar were active, powered adapters that transcode from Component to VGA or hdmi. If, as you said, your monitor accepts Component YPbPr over a VGA/HD15 connector you just need a passive adapter. These should not alter the signal in any way, which means that any issue you would have with them will most likely be due to the monitor itself.
If you play lots of 240p titles, it may be worth buying an OSSC though - even if your display accepts it, it's possible that it won't treat it for what it is and will deinterlace instead. If you mostly game on 6th gen consoles and up, you may want to buy a full-fledged video processor instead, since 480i and 480p aren't the OSSC strong points due to it being a no-lag line multiplier at its core. I'm testing a Kramer VP-425 right now and can recommend it - it takes VGA and YPbPr, deinterlaces and upscales to 1080p very well, has aspect ratio and overscan controls and correctly identifies 240p as progressive. It's a bit slow though, processing delay for progressive sources is ~25ms and takes several seconds to switch between different resolutions.
I don't have a Framemeister, but from what I've read its performance with 480i is, and will likely remain, unparalleled. The quality/processing lag ratio is insane, not even the Crystalio II or DVDO's hold a candle to it. But the story seems to be different with 480p, and while I haven't made any extensive testing with the VP-425 yet, I really like what I'm seeing (processing delay aside). In fact, I've bought a VP-424 as well to test it with an OSSC..
Xer Xian wrote:Actually the ones tested by Gunstar were active, powered adapters that transcode from Component to VGA or hdmi. If, as you said, your monitor accepts Component YPbPr over a VGA/HD15 connector you just need a passive adapter. These should not alter the signal in any way, which means that any issue you would have with them will most likely be due to the monitor itself.
If you play lots of 240p titles, it may be worth buying an OSSC though - even if your display accepts it, it's possible that it won't treat it for what it is and will deinterlace instead. If you mostly game on 6th gen consoles and up, you may want to buy a full-fledged video processor instead, since 480i and 480p aren't the OSSC strong points due to it being a no-lag line multiplier at its core. I'm testing a Kramer VP-425 right now and can recommend it - it takes VGA and YPbPr, deinterlaces and upscales to 1080p very well, has aspect ratio and overscan controls and correctly identifies 240p as progressive. It's a bit slow though, processing delay for progressive sources is ~25ms and takes several seconds to switch between different resolutions.
Thank you for the input. This passthrough will mainly be for 6th gen only consoles but some 6th gen games (Mega Man Anniversary) Only take 240p and so for those games i would like have a monitor that will take it even if it is interlaced for some of those games. Curious as to why you say the 480i and 480p aren't the OSSC Strong points. I have heard it makes some 6th gen games look fairly good granted not as well as 240p games. I also may still try and active adapter as when i have games hooked up via HDMI there is no black crush though that is running on an xbox 360 and not an original xbox.
