could 8bitdo controllers & recievers be better?

[Elrinth]

I saw that they're only using Bluetooth 2.1. http://www.8bitdo.com/snes30/specs.html
What if they were using Bluetooth 4.2, 4.1 or 4.0? Could lag & range be improved?
What is the best possible wireless controller solution?

[gray117]

I don't think there were basic polling rate benefits beyond v2 in terms of lag. The data size is very small so I think v3 is not of much benefit if any and I think v4 was around efficiency for mobile.

It'll be quality of receiver or transmitter that'll determine the greatest influence I believe as long as it's not v1.

... All navel gazing and guesswork though.... How's the pad feel?

Personally I still like wires.

[Elrinth]

I don't think there were basic polling rate benefits beyond v2 in terms of lag. The data size is very small so I think v3 is not of much benefit if any and I think v4 was around efficiency for mobile.

It'll be quality of receiver or transmitter that'll determine the greatest influence I believe as long as it's not v1.

... All navel gazing and guesswork though.... How's the pad feel?

Personally I still like wires.

To me the pad feels perfect. However, the range and weird responses leave alot to be desired.
I do know that retrousb guy is working on a wireless controller which I want to buy. Sadly he's making his own design on the controller itself, tho it does look kinda comfy to hold.

[Guspaz]

Physically, the controller feels pretty much identical to the original to me. Same weight too (or close enough not to feel different). The button presses are a bit crisper, but I find that I prefer that, and at this point it may simply be because my 8bitdo rubber contacts are 0 years old while my SNES rubber contacts are 25 years old.

I have not experienced any issues whatsoever in terms of range, or missed inputs, or interference. The wireless link has so far been 100% identical in experience to using a wired controller, so in my mind, there is no longer any reason to use my wired OEM SNES controllers.

All that said, I have not tried the one scenario that people have commonly reported having wireless interference issues, which is two 8bitdo controllers operating at the same time. I do have two 8bitdo SNES receivers and controllers, but I haven't had a chance to do any multiplayer since getting them. Instead, I leave one receiver plugged into my SNES, and one receiver plugged into my GameCube (via an adapter) for gameboy games. It's entirely possible that I would experience problems if and when I do try that out, but as of this moment I haven't tried.

[ZellSF]

I've had no issues with mine either. Except for being a bit too responsive, when you're used to controllers with 25 years of wear and tear...

Admittedly, I have a relatively low interference environment.

[Elrinth]

I experienced stuttering in mario. that it wouldn't hold down the jump button for as long as I held it down. Pushing down made mario duck rapidly. Like it was autofire or something.
Getting closer to the device helped.
Important here is that I'm using a modded fourscore for my sharp twin famicom.

[Guspaz]

Make sure that you've updated both the receiver and all the controllers to the latest beta firmware.

[Elrinth]

I have the latest beta firmware for both the NES030 and the retroreciever.

But it says that the NES030 Pro has some processor which gives 0 lag etc.
http://8bitdo.com/nes30pro/

Is it so that the NES030 is worse?

[jdawg131]

How do they feel compared to the originals? I was thinking of getting some of their NES and SNES controllers for my systems, but have been a lot of mixed opinions. Some folks on Neogaf even installed the original buttons and rubber membranes, and still stated that there was a button delay. I would be using the controllers with the receivers on the original consoles; I don't dabble with emulation except for Turbografx games on the Wii.

[Elrinth]

for the NES I would really wait for the retrousb ones to come out if I were you. but SNES there isn't really that many choices so go with the 8bitdo ones.
As the bluetooth technology, especially 2.1, is not lag free.
the one by retrousb will be lag free and have a much longer range.

for pc-engine I recently bought a IR reciever and 5 IR controllers. Work like a clock!

[jdawg131]

Thank you for the quick repsonse. I know that people have complained about the shoulder buttons on the SNES/SFC controllers (bending plastic compared to the metal rod on the originals). Shame about the lag. Fortunately, I'm more interested in the NES ones for my AV Famicom and front loading NES due to their location in my setup. I'll wait and see what RetroUSB comes up with.