Best setting for 480i games in Sony's DRC Mode?

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In my experiences Progressive and Cinemotion both handle game content horribly, with severe problems regarding 30Hz drop shadows and motion. The interlaced mode worked best as far as latency and image quality went.
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GeneraLight wrote:This setting only works for 480i signals. The circuitry for DRC Mode is bypassed and is disabled for 480p, 720p and 1080i signals.
I've heard otherwise from different people, not that I can say I know myself. Or DRC may be bypassed, but it still scales the image.
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Interlaced gives you a true 960i image by zooming in on a line-doubled 480i image windowboxed inside a 1080i field. So my guess is it would be the most accurate picture.

I honestly haven't messed with it that much, but if I had to guess 240p and 60fps 480i games you definitely have to go with interlaced, otherwise they will look weird. In my understanding, the two progressive modes use two frames to create a deinterlaced progressive image, which gives you a max-30fps picture. That's why you'll read that 240p games with flashing sprites don't show up properly, because some of the visual information has been discarded, and the only DRC mode that works correctly is interlaced.

However, for 30fps, 480i games (like Final Fantasy 12, Shadow of the Colossus, etc.) you might want to try the two progressive modes to see if they look any better.

No clue about differences between input lag between DRC modes.
bobrocks95 wrote:I've heard otherwise from different people, not that I can say I know myself. Or DRC may be bypassed, but it still scales the image.
DRC is definitely disable, you can see so in the menu, but yeah, other sorts of digital processing occur.

Except for 1080i/540p over analog component. On Hi-scan sets, it automatically bypasses any sort of digital processing. On Super-fine pitch sets, you have to manually disable it by going in the service menu and enabling HDPT (high-definition passthrough). At least that's how I remember it. I only own a hi-scan set.
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BazookaBen wrote:you have to manually disable it by going in the service menu and enabling HDPT (high-definition passthrough). At least that's how I remember it. I only own a hi-scan set.
I heard that only eliminates digital processing for 1080i signals. Does that eliminate digital processing for 480i and 480p signals too? Also, I thought you disabled HDPT to diable processing. Not enable it. 1 to 0.
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GeneraLight wrote:I heard that only eliminates digital processing for 1080i signals. Does that eliminate digital processing for 480i and 480p signals too? Also, I thought you disabled HDPT to diable processing. Not enable it. 1 to 0.
Just 1080i/540p. Though if you're playing a 480p PC game like Satazius, you can create a custom resolution for 480p with large enough front and back porches to give it a 33.75hz horizontal frequency and the TV will display it. Though it my be underscanned by quite a bit.

I've also created custom resolutions that let me run 21:9 movies at 72hz interlaced (by reducing the overall vertical resolution to around 850 to keep the 33.75hz horizontal), so there are some weird tricks you can do with these TV's. I can give you my CRU EDID file if you ever want to try it yourself.

As for the HDPT thing, I could have it backwards, but that's how I remember it.
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GeneraLight wrote:I heard that only eliminates digital processing for 1080i signals. Does that eliminate digital processing for 480i and 480p signals too? Also, I thought you disabled HDPT to diable processing. Not enable it. 1 to 0.
Just 1080i/540p. Though if you're playing a 480p PC game like Satazius, you can create a custom resolution for 480p with large enough front and back porches to give it a 33.75hz horizontal frequency and the TV will display it. Though it my be underscanned by quite a bit.

I've also created custom resolutions that let me run 21:9 movies at 72hz interlaced (by reducing the overall vertical resolution to around 850 to keep the 33.75hz horizontal), so there are some weird tricks you can do with these TV's. I can give you my CRU EDID file if you ever want to try it yourself.

As for the HDPT thing, I could have it backwards, but that's how I remember it.
Are you saying you can mod a Super Fine Pitch Sony Trinitron set to out native 240p and 480p?
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GeneraLight wrote:Are you saying you can mod a Super Fine Pitch Sony Trinitron set to out native 240p and 480p?
No, I'm talking about making custom resolutions on PC that will run at the same frequency as 1080i (33.75hz), which will be treated as 1080i by the TV. No way to do this with consoles. Sorry, I kinda went off on a tangent.

With consoles, you're stuck with whatever processing the Sony sets do for 31hz and 15hz signals.
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