Sega Virtua Stick HSS-0136 Seimitsu VS ASCII Parts?

[St4rwalker]

I want to buy this stick, but want to make sure i get one with all seimitsu parts,
not the later ones with knock-offs..

Is this a real gamble game to buy from ebay? Is about 100,- EUR inkl. ship. a decent price
for this arcade stick?

[Das Muel]

I have one of each. The buttons are the same on both (perfectly functional but not 'real' arcade parts) but the earlier model has a very nice Seimitsu stick. The Ascii stick is more stiff and has a larger dead zone, but it doesn't bother me enough to get the Dremel out. Unfortunately I don't think there's any way to tell them apart without opening them up.

I think 100 Euro is probably a little on the high side but I've seen worse. I got a pristine, boxed Seimitsu-equipped one for £70 (including shipping) from France a couple of months ago.

[St4rwalker]

ok thanks for the helpful answer..

do you want to sell the stick from france btw?

Also, how difficult would be changing AT LEAST the stick to a LS-32 seimitsu?

Im not that talented when it comes to manual labor

[Das Muel]

The stick is a Seimitsu LS-56 - it should be a straight swap if you happened to get one with an Ascii. I actually prefer the LS-56 to the LS-32s I used to have in my Virtua Stick Pro, but each to their own. It'd be worth checking the Shoryuken forums on this because I'm by no means an expert: http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/ ... imitsu-mod

Personally I think a lot of people get a little carried away with their Sanwa/Seimitsu obsession. Even the Ascii Virtua stick is perfectly functional. My personal favourite is the PS1 Namco Arcade Stick, and that doesn't use any real arcade parts at all.

[St4rwalker]

Again, THANKS A TON! Exactly the information i was looking for and could not find!!

I think i will just order a boxed one.. btw 70 pounds are 92,- EUR not so far from 100,- EUR

Oh, one more thing, do you or anyone knows if it does matter if its made in china or made in taiwan?

[Das Muel]

Both of mine are made in Taiwan. One Seimitsu, one not. Seimitsu: 634B0 Ascii: 629A1.

[azmun]

I'm quite interested in this as well. I figured there would be a way to distinguish one from the other simply by looking at the joystick. Based on http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/ ... d-work-log you'll notice subtle difference in the dust washer and shaft (Seimitsu is taller and darker--has a cover).

[Das Muel]

Neither of my sticks have a cover but the Seimitsu is slightly taller and more slender than the Ascii. When you lift up the dust washer there is a subtle difference in the white plastic pivot underneath - the Seimitsu is perfectly circular while the Ascii has little tabs cut out of it. Overall they look pretty damn similar on the outside.

[Kyle]

I have an HSS-0130 but decided I wanted one of these for turbo.

Since I want Seimitsu, I made an easy picture to send to eBay sellers for confirmation. Hopefully this will be helpful.

[Stevens]

I always figured I had the variant. Dead zone is enormous compared to my Hori SE.

[Das Muel]

I'm in the process of modding both of my sticks (one Seimitsu, one Ascii) to full Seimitsu/Sanwa parts. As long as you remove the metal mounting plate, an LS56-01 is a drop-in replacement for the old Ascii stick. You don't even have to solder as the original 5 pin connector fits perfectly. The only slight bummer is that you have to unscrew the original stick from the outside (piercing the original artwork), but it's not a big deal in my opinion.



Now I just have to mod the buttons - one side green and one side pink to match an Astro City panel.

[Stevens]

Was considering selling my VS, but seeing as the stick swap is straight forward I am not so sure anymore.

[Kyle]

I contacted a few Japanese sellers on eBay and had one find me a Seimitsu variant. Seems worth the trouble to just ask in advance. That picture doesn't look bad, especially with the flush screws.

[Das Muel]

Just finished modding my sticks with Sanwa OBSF-30 buttons (pink and green to match an Astro City cabinet). The buttons took a little bit of work to fit - I started to Dremel the button holes down but the artwork started to bubble up slightly, so instead I started carefully grinding down the buttons themselves. Had to take one millimetre or so off each one. Once fitted, I soldered them back on to the original PCB with lengths of wire as the Sanwa OBSF terminals are too far apart to sit on there directly. It'd be possible to remove the PCB entirely as there is a pinout available online somewhere but I decided not to for whatever reason. Anyway, I think they worked out quite nicely and the buttons and sticks are a definite improvement over the Ascii parts.

[SAM]

Just finished modding my sticks with Sanwa OBSF-30 buttons (pink and green to match an Astro City cabinet). The buttons took a little bit of work to fit - I started to Dremel the button holes down but the artwork started to bubble up slightly, so instead I started carefully grinding down the buttons themselves. Had to take one millimetre or so off each one. Once fitted, I soldered them back on to the original PCB with lengths of wire as the Sanwa OBSF terminals are too far apart to sit on there directly. It'd be possible to remove the PCB entirely as there is a pinout available online somewhere but I decided not to for whatever reason. Anyway, I think they worked out quite nicely and the buttons and sticks are a definite improvement over the Ascii parts.

I am halfway in modding the Saturn Virtual Stick, and to my horror , I found the hold at the front plate not fit for the Sanwa OBSF-30RG buttons. So I come back and check how come you guys would fit.... It looks like there would ba a lots of works to do ahead.

I think I would cannibal the front plate of the Vertual Stick (CS2-0007) in stead (the one for Windows/Mac.), as it holds are large enough for the Sanwa buttons.