15khz PC connected to Bang & Olufsen TV
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Beaps
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15khz PC connected to Bang & Olufsen TV
Hi all
Can anyone help me out please.
I have a PC running in 15khz mode and running grooveymame. I have made up a VGA to RGB scart cable and it works a treat on a Trinitron and other TVs but nothing on the B&O. Has anyone got any ideas to get it working on a B&O
Ta
Can anyone help me out please.
I have a PC running in 15khz mode and running grooveymame. I have made up a VGA to RGB scart cable and it works a treat on a Trinitron and other TVs but nothing on the B&O. Has anyone got any ideas to get it working on a B&O
Ta
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kamiboy
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Re: 15khz PC connected to Bang & Olufsen TV
Does your cable do proper combining of TTL H&V sync into TV level composite sync?
I think B&O's are a bit fussy about being fed proper sync.
I think B&O's are a bit fussy about being fed proper sync.
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Beaps
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Re: 15khz PC connected to Bang & Olufsen TV
I combined the H&V myself
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viletim
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Re: 15khz PC connected to Bang & Olufsen TV
Don't just join the wires together, it doesn't make a valid signal.Beaps wrote:I combined the H&V myself
This works fairly well. Diode D4 can be omitted.

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Beaps
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Re: 15khz PC connected to Bang & Olufsen TV
All looks a little confusing.
- Where did you get the 12v from
- does the vert & horizontal connect using the 330 resister
- Where does the vert connect to in the end
Also thanks for your help.
- Where did you get the 12v from
- does the vert & horizontal connect using the 330 resister
- Where does the vert connect to in the end
Also thanks for your help.
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gray117
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Re: 15khz PC connected to Bang & Olufsen TV
It's not just because you don't have a blanking signal?
Most trinitrons can be switched and stay in rgb mode manually without one, but not all, and perhaps not your B&O.
Don't suppose you've tried another source without a blanking signal or your B&O? e.g. a supergun
Plenty of people try faking one for sets that require a blanking signal using various methods, got a little setup myself where I tap the blanking and ground (pins 16 and 18 I think) from an old dvd player and tap it into a simple scart switch/extender - the kind that just lets through both inputs - thus combining the blanking signal from the dvd player with one of my superguns.
Most trinitrons can be switched and stay in rgb mode manually without one, but not all, and perhaps not your B&O.
Don't suppose you've tried another source without a blanking signal or your B&O? e.g. a supergun
Plenty of people try faking one for sets that require a blanking signal using various methods, got a little setup myself where I tap the blanking and ground (pins 16 and 18 I think) from an old dvd player and tap it into a simple scart switch/extender - the kind that just lets through both inputs - thus combining the blanking signal from the dvd player with one of my superguns.
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kamiboy
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Re: 15khz PC connected to Bang & Olufsen TV
B&O's do at the very least need 3~5v on pin 16 to force them into RGB mode.
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Beaps
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Re: 15khz PC connected to Bang & Olufsen TV
Sorted now, added 5v and works a treat, thanks guys
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Re: 15khz PC connected to Bang & Olufsen TV
kamiboy wrote:B&O's do at the very least need 3~5v on pin 16 to force them into RGB mode.
The range is 1-3 V. If you just connect 5V directly the termination resistor will eventually burn out. Instead, the usual way to drive this pin is to connect 5V through a resistor - something between 100 and 180 ohms will do.Beaps wrote:Sorted now, added 5v and works a treat, thanks guys
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kamiboy
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Re: 15khz PC connected to Bang & Olufsen TV
That is correct, but doing things the proper way is such a rare occurrence when it comes to the SCART standard. Most console cables that I've seen feed 5v directly to that pin. I really should add that resistor myself, alas I cannot be arsed.
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Re: 15khz PC connected to Bang & Olufsen TV
Not true. Discounting some Ebay junk (because this is a dumping ground for faulty merchandise), SCART cables and equipment is generally fine. Where have you bought a SCART cable that has 5V wired to the blanking pin?kamiboy wrote:That is correct, but doing things the proper way is such a rare occurrence when it comes to the SCART standard.
Connecting 5V to the blanking input is as dangerous as connecting 5V to the video input. It's a 75 ohm input just the same. It is well outside the allowed range and can easily burn the termination resistor which is usually only rated for 125mW or 250mW.
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kamiboy
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Re: 15khz PC connected to Bang & Olufsen TV
The TV's that I play on must be of a superior build because i have been feeding them 5v for years from all my consoles. My cables come from here and there, mostly custom jobs or third party.
Then again the TV's I play on are all B&O's, which I hope are of superior build quality, given their astronomic original retail price.
Then again the TV's I play on are all B&O's, which I hope are of superior build quality, given their astronomic original retail price.
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bluetrain
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Re: 15khz PC connected to Bang & Olufsen TV
Hello fellow gamers! I kindly ask of assistance.
I also have a B & O trying to connect to groovy mame (15khz) but only get a wobbly picture. I have bought the UMSA connector and thought that would be plug and play but perhaps that is not the case?
I also have a B & O trying to connect to groovy mame (15khz) but only get a wobbly picture. I have bought the UMSA connector and thought that would be plug and play but perhaps that is not the case?
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syboxez
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Re: 15khz PC connected to Bang & Olufsen TV
Is it safe to simply combine V and H into one wire if the equipment supports sync levels from .5Vpp all the way to 10Vpp? I'm talking about an Extron Crosspoint in this particular case, which outputs 4-5Vpp sync regardless of input.