News does not start on the internet

ThirdStrike · Post by **ThirdStrike** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:51 pm

For people who ask me to post my sources of news LIKE A LINK

News does not always start on the internet

Sometimes people receive emails read a magazine or hear first hand from someone in the industry.

So if I do not post a LINK it is because there is none.

News finds its way on the Internet it does not START THERE.

As you can see my Metal Slug on GBA and Senko No Ronde posts eventually made it to the WEB.

Be patient sometimes you will hear it first here.

TWITCHDOCTOR · Post by **TWITCHDOCTOR** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:04 pm

Whats this little rant about, anyway? I'm feeling "left out" again...

Accutron · Post by **Accutron** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:16 pm

It doesn't matter where the news is coming from...you still need to cite it. Unless the news came out of your ass, you're capable of describing your source. It doesn't have to be a link. It can be a pasted email, magazine citation, whatever.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:21 pm

TWITCHDOCTOR wrote:Whats this little rant about, anyway? I'm feeling "left out" again...

Sega called him on the phone a few weeks ago to help spread some news.

The n00b · Post by **The n00b** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:58 pm

Where's your link for that?

MovingTarget · Post by **MovingTarget** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:21 pm

Rob wrote:
TWITCHDOCTOR wrote:Whats this little rant about, anyway? I'm feeling "left out" again...
Sega called him on the phone a few weeks ago to help spread some news.

He's so cool.

DantesInferno · Post by **DantesInferno** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:54 pm

Why do I get the.."I've been caught! Better cover my ass somehow.." feeling from this topic..

LoneSage · Post by **LoneSage** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:06 am

I thought news began its life underground as larva.

Bar81 · Post by **Bar81** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:08 am

And the point of this inane post is???

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:17 am

Damn -- you're leet. You got some serious contacts!

Seriously, though:

ometimes people receive emails read a magazine or hear first hand from someone in the industry.

Uh... email is a part of the internet. Magazines are still a very citeable source. The latter... well... I doubt you'd have to worry about that one. Even so, you'd still need to site it for it to be proper "news".

UnscathedFlyingObject · Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:23 am

I still think topic titles with ALL CAPS are the worst.

The worst of the worst is when people randomly CAP a WORD in their MESSAGE like doing so will make people agree with what they SAY.

Turrican · Post by **Turrican** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:37 am

Accutron wrote:It doesn't matter where the news is coming from...you still need to cite it. Unless the news came out of your ass, you're capable of describing your source. It doesn't have to be a link. It can be a pasted email, magazine citation, whatever.

Hmm... I don't want to play the role of devil's advocate but... This time Thirdstrike's scoop has been confirmed. And he said it here before I could read this on the news webpages I usually look at (AND NO, i won't say their name, because I'm NOT interested in a debate about how much reliable they are!).

I mean, there's an unwritten rule that one should quote their sources. Then again, he doesn't have to. It would be better if anyone would do so, but maybe some people cannot. Maybe they simply don't want, and you have to respect that too. You have always the right to not trust him, even if he DOES quote a source of sort.

In the end, if you believed him or not, what difference does? You cannot preorder the games so early. If it's just an invented rumor, it will soon die. If it proved to be true, you heard it earlier, you should be grateful. Or you should't give a shit.

Either way, let's not eat ThirdStrike' face without a reason.

LoneSage · Post by **LoneSage** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:41 am

Turrican wrote: Either way, let's not eat ThirdStrike' face without a reason.

I had planned to nibble on his arm

You got something against cannibalism, eh?

Ganelon · Post by **Ganelon** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:49 am

It's cool. After he got burned last time on Sammy vs. Capcom, he's at least mentioning his sources now so no problem. It's hard to keep on top of things without making a few mistakes and his track record has been good.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:53 am

I have no feeling about this one way or the other. But, I will say, that managing three game retail shops is quite impressive. It is not as if that is pumping gas for a living, you know? Or making the fries at Hardees.

Accutron · Post by **Accutron** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:03 am

Turrican wrote:I mean, there's an unwritten rule that one should quote their sources. Then again, he doesn't have to. It would be better if anyone would do so, but maybe some people cannot. Maybe they simply don't want, and you have to respect that too. You have always the right to not trust him, even if he DOES quote a source of sort.

No source, no news. It's not a matter of trust. It's a matter of the news item itself being the link or quote from the source, not ThirdStrike's anecdotal claims.

sethsez · Post by **sethsez** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:04 am

ThirdStrike wrote:NEWS DOES NOT START ON THE INTERNET

Do you have a link fOH DAMMIT I WAS BEATEN BY THE N00B

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:20 am

As Gaijin said, you can cite your source even if it's not from the internet, otherwise it looks like you're typing random things. COMPILE BUYS SONY.

sethsez · Post by **sethsez** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:21 am

Nemo wrote:COMPILE BUYS SONY.

A day from now on Spong:

"Anonymous source confirms the Compile has purchased Sony!"

JBC · Post by **JBC** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:52 pm

Brian wrote:It is not as if that is pumping gas for a living, you know?

Oh, you are so gonna pay for that one buddy.

At least i gotta job. Hmpf!

chtimi-CLA · Post by **chtimi-CLA** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:49 pm

i heard from sources i won't quote that Thirdstrike is japhei.
at least you sure sound like blastaway, who was confirmed to be.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:46 pm

chtimi wrote:i heard from sources i won't quote

Sorry, but we're going to need a source for that bit of news.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:07 pm

circuitface wrote:
Brian wrote:It is not as if that is pumping gas for a living, you know?
Oh, you are so gonna pay for that one buddy.

At least i gotta job. Hmpf!

I'll assume you don't plan on making a career out of it.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:50 pm

Accutron wrote:It doesn't matter where the news is coming from...you still need to cite it. Unless the news came out of your ass, you're capable of describing your source. It doesn't have to be a link. It can be a pasted email, magazine citation, whatever.

99% of the news brought up on this site get's shot down, regardless of whether or not a source is provided. Look at my news about XBOX Xyanide; the freakin' COMPANY told me that the game was almost finsished. Once again, people did little else but scoff at this news, but now that IGN has an announcement on it, that has proven what I said to be true.

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:51 pm

Accutron wrote:
Turrican wrote:I mean, there's an unwritten rule that one should quote their sources. Then again, he doesn't have to. It would be better if anyone would do so, but maybe some people cannot. Maybe they simply don't want, and you have to respect that too. You have always the right to not trust him, even if he DOES quote a source of sort.
No source, no news. It's not a matter of trust. It's a matter of the news item itself being the link or quote from the source, not ThirdStrike's anecdotal claims.

Once again, almost every piece of news brought up on this site get's treated as anecdotal. And if you want to talk about trust, how about a healthy dose of skepticism rather then the prevailing almost conspiracy theory attitude towards news on this site??

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:04 pm

dave4shmups wrote: 99% of the news brought up on this site get's shot down, regardless of whether or not a source is provided. Look at my news about XBOX Xyanide; the freakin' COMPANY told me that the game was almost finsished.

You had a problem, so it's 99% of everything.

GaijinPunch · Post by **GaijinPunch** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:05 pm

Look at my news about XBOX Xyanide; the freakin' COMPANY told me that the game was almost finsished.

That was debatable. The statement they gave you was vague at best. I'm glad it panned out. Maybe if you didn't double post all the time people would take your news bits a bit more seriously (I'm not joking). Is there really ANY reason to hit the quote button twice? You even said basically the same thing in both posts. God made CTRL+C for a reason.

Accutron · Post by **Accutron** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:22 pm

dave4shmups wrote:
Accutron wrote:It doesn't matter where the news is coming from...you still need to cite it. Unless the news came out of your ass, you're capable of describing your source. It doesn't have to be a link. It can be a pasted email, magazine citation, whatever.
99% of the news brought up on this site get's shot down, regardless of whether or not a source is provided. Look at my news about XBOX Xyanide; the freakin' COMPANY told me that the game was almost finsished. Once again, people did little else but scoff at this news, but now that IGN has an announcement on it, that has proven what I said to be true.

I can't speak for anybody else, and I haven't read the Xyanide thread, but from what I've seen the vast majority of people on here show little or no skepticism whatsoever when a news item is accompanied by a reasonable source. If you pasted an email from a developer, I'd accept it.

Specineff · Post by **Specineff** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:26 am

SNN (Specineff News Network) reports:

Landshark likes tacos!

dave4shmups · Post by **dave4shmups** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:42 am

GaijinPunch wrote:
Look at my news about XBOX Xyanide; the freakin' COMPANY told me that the game was almost finsished.
That was debatable. The statement they gave you was vague at best. I'm glad it panned out. Maybe if you didn't double post all the time people would take your news bits a bit more seriously (I'm not joking). Is there really ANY reason to hit the quote button twice? You even said basically the same thing in both posts. God made CTRL+C for a reason.

I'd hardly call what they said "vague". If they were that serious about finishing the game, and getting it to XBOX owners, they were going to find a way, and they did-they're publishing the game themselves.

I do need to work on double-posting, but I did not say the same thing in both posts, I was merely giving updates, BOTH of which came straight from Playlogic. And that's my point, even when something comes straight from the horse's mouth and gets posted on this site, few people believe it. I'd call that unhealthy skepticism. Whatever, I'm through debating about this.

Egg Rolls rule!

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