Cave games are back in MAME

[bulbousbeard]

http://mame.dorando.at/svn/?rev=26844

FEELS GOOD™

[Wyrmnus]

Will they be lagless? Whenever I play certain titles on CAVEui its all like.. sound lagged n' shit.

[bulbousbeard]

If you want to reduce input lag, your best bet is either a CRT arcade monitor and GroovyMAME with framedelay 9 or buying one of the newly released G-Sync monitors and playing without vsync (without tearing).

All those "reduced lag" hack emulators are a mess. They're not worth it when Calamity basically proved that GroovyMAME with framedelay reduces the lag just as much without breaking emulation.

G-Sync monitors, though, should technically have almost no lag, though, because you don't have to turn on vsync there, and based on tests that have been done with MAME, there's pretty much no input lag with MAME with vsync off.

[Wyrmnus]

If you want to reduce input lag, your best bet is either a CRT arcade monitor and GroovyMAME with framedelay 9 or buying one of the newly released G-Sync monitors and playing without vsync (without tearing).

All those "reduced lag" hack emulators are a mess. They're not worth it when Calamity basically proved that GroovyMAME with framedelay reduces the lag just as much without breaking emulation.

G-Sync monitors, though, should technically have almost no lag, though, because you don't have to turn on vsync there, and based on tests that have been done with MAME, there's pretty much no input lag with MAME with vsync off.

Way over my head, Boss. I'm a poor man.

[trap15]

Wrong subforum. Get out. This is my sanctuary away from the hellscape that is Shmups Chat. I don't want to see this shit.

[Kaiser]

Wrong subforum. Get out. This is my sanctuary away from the hellscape that is Shmups Chat. I don't want to see this shit.

The only sanctuary away from that is no INTERNET, deal with it.

[VibrantMes]

I like the sound of this

[BulletMagnet]

Cave often programmed the u2 roms onto defective flash chips, programming around the bad blocks. As a result these are highly suseptible to failure, blocks around the known bad blocks appear to decay at an alarming rate in some cases, and in others data has clearly been programmed over blocks that were already going bad.

I'm not tech-savvy enough to know exactly what this means, but it certainly sounds pretty ghetto.

[AntiFritz]

Wrong subforum. Get out. This is my sanctuary away from the hellscape that is Shmups Chat. I don't want to see this shit.

Tried closing your eyes?

[bulbousbeard]

Cave often programmed the u2 roms onto defective flash chips, programming around the bad blocks. As a result these are highly suseptible to failure, blocks around the known bad blocks appear to decay at an alarming rate in some cases, and in others data has clearly been programmed over blocks that were already going bad.

I'm not tech-savvy enough to know exactly what this means, but it certainly sounds pretty ghetto.

It is ghetto. It seems like pretty much every decision made for that platform was driven by reducing costs. For 2004 hardware, it's incredibly underpowered and resolution starved. They cut so many corners on the flash chips that the audio quality had to be butchered. It's why the music in those games sounds like a 96kpbs MP3. The music quality is vastly superior in the Xbox 360 ports. To be fair, though, by 2004, the market for shooters like this was pretty limited, so you can't blame them. We'll probably never see a conventional triple A shooter again.

[shmuppyLove]

Should be merged with TCFC thread probably

[trap15]

Yes really. Even aside from my hate on this whole subject, this is not the right subforum for it to be in. CAVE is just about the furthest thing from off-topic possible on this forum.

[BulletMagnet]

Moving to Shmups Chat for now, to keep things peaceful.

[matrigs]

you could idd merge the two threads. maybe merging the titles as well as it seems that "too close for comfort" isn't descriptive enough for new members.

on a side-note: what does this change actually, that the driver is back officially?

[Xyga]

Such Mame. Too close. Cave. Wow.