Girl Power (unsung women in games design) v2.0

[railslave]

I love it when women surprise me (yeah i have women issues)

and do amazing stuff

BUT...........

This womans credentials

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rieko_Kodama


IM IN LOVE! , i mean omg

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/feature/in ... o-kodama/2

<<<only just found this out ... im sure its common knowledge


Got this little evil redneck voice now saying "so your going to let a women do better art than you , huh ?"

the hell i am

[trap15]

I don't see the point of making a deal over someone's gender. If they did something particularly spectacular, that should be what's up for discussion, not how "OMG THIS GAME WAS MADE BY A GURRRRLLLLL".

On the subject of her in particular, I think she should have just stayed on RPGs. The designer of Altered Beast isn't something to be praised for But being a writer and designer of Phantasy Star sure is.

[railslave]

I don't see the point of making a deal over someone's gender. If they did something particularly spectacular, that should be what's up for discussion, not how "OMG THIS GAME WAS MADE BY A GURRRRLLLLL".

Like i said,
i obviously have chauvinistic issues (bred into me), but its just kind of cool ..
some of those games are pretty insane and wierd, design wise , shadow dancer (Megadrive), Mystic defender ..ect .



Yeah i agree with altered beast ... but then you think, a girl designed(re-sprited ??) this..!!

imagine that these days, i dunno, i think its pretty cool. Not something they saw often(at all) then , and i doubt you would now, so its pretty unusual.

Im glad i have those issues! So i can get my ass handed to me like this

I also refuse to except that the female members of power ballad band HEART were responsible for some of those solos..!!!!!!!! , looking forward to being wrong

[Ed Oscuro]

... but then you think, a girl designed(re-sprited ??) this..!!

Who's "you," brother? I'm glad to give Rieko Kodama the spotlight though.

[Necronopticous]

I'm sure Rieko would be absolutely flattered that you consider her to be almost as good as a man.

[jepjepjep]

I love it when women surprise me (yeah i have women issues)

and do amazing stuff

... Prepare to have your mind blown ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoko_Shimomura

[railslave]

Guess it didn't/doesn't pleasantly surprise you guys

And you live in a world where women have had roles this big for years (in games design)? ..

Its sad that they DONT, guess what,...... they didn't

We all grew up in a world where women didn't do this stuff (in those days)

makes it extra cool! imho

Dunno what your culture is like, but mine is extremely homophobic , racist and chauvinistic

[Ed Oscuro]

There's other ways to handle it than parade it around.

[railslave]

There's other ways to handle it than parade it around.

Teaches me abit about myself, and where ive grown up that its even a shock ..i guess, ,


didnt mean to offend anyone... sorry

But sonic the hedgehog !!! awesome news!

I love How She defends Phantasy star 3 as well ...i may actually try that now (despite the horrendous public opinion of it)

[evil_ash_xero]

When I told my friend that women did the designs in Symphony of the Night, as well as the music, he was like "wow!".

So, your reaction isn't THAT weird. People will bring the hammer down on you on the internet though. Just how it is.

[railslave]

Ill never doubt you again

[jepjepjep]

Teaches me abit about myself, and where ive grown up that its even a shock ..i guess, ,


didnt mean to offend anyone... sorry

But sonic the hedgehog !!! awesome news!

I love How She defends Phantasy star 3 as well ...i may actually try that now (despite the horrendous public opinion of it)

No worries, railslave. But women have been doing high profile stuff in traditionally male-dominated industries for a long time. Did you know that most of the early computer icons (original Macintosh and early Windows) were done by Susan Kare? ( http://www.kare.com/articles/sjmerc.html )

[railslave]

... Prepare to have your mind blown ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoko_Shimomura

i missed this



Thats pretty mental final fight is some pretty seedy messed up stuff as well..

loving it...!!!

does she even realize that Guiles theme goes with anything !!!

Thats amazing realy, they laid the foundation ...of everything basicly!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_7FMwPKu3Q cool Yoko Shimomura interview

[drauch]

When I told my friend that women did the designs in Symphony of the Night, as well as the music, he was like "wow!".

So, your reaction isn't THAT weird. People will bring the hammer down on you on the internet though. Just how it is.

I'd bring the hammer down in real life, as well, and I do. The only thing I'm going to be surprised by a woman is if she pulls down her pants and fucks me in the ass.

[Specineff]

No love for Carol Shaw? She made River Raid. RIVER. RAID.

[Sly Cherry Chunks]

Drauch thread winner once again

[KAI]

No Ayako Saso love?

[BIL]

No Ayako Saso love?

Der wimminz have several good representatives in the VGM sphere. There's also Tamayo Kawamoto, Miki Higashino and Kinuyo Yamashita, just off the top of my head.

The only thing I'm going to be surprised by a woman is if she pulls down her pants and fucks me in the ass.

<333

[blackoak]

timely post, I'm actually finishing up a translation of a 1993 interview with Rieko Kodama and the original Phantasy Star team right now. There's a neat anecdote in there about how she learned sprite design from the guy who did Flicky at Sega, Yoshiki Kawasaki. Should be up in a week or so...

[evil_ash_xero]

When I told my friend that women did the designs in Symphony of the Night, as well as the music, he was like "wow!".

So, your reaction isn't THAT weird. People will bring the hammer down on you on the internet though. Just how it is.

I'd bring the hammer down in real life, as well, and I do. The only thing I'm going to be surprised by a woman is if she pulls down her pants and fucks me in the ass.

That would definitely be a surprise.

[BareKnuckleRoo]

The only thing I'm going to be surprised by a woman is if she pulls down her pants and fucks me in the ass.

If it's Amanda Palmer, don't be.

[railslave]

timely post, I'm actually finishing up a translation of a 1993 interview with Rieko Kodama and the original Phantasy Star team right now. There's a neat anecdote in there about how she learned sprite design from the guy who did Flicky at Sega, Yoshiki Kawasaki. Should be up in a week or so...

Oh wow, now thats something to look forward to


heart me some Phantasy star

This social suicide might pay off after all

Dont forget to link it !!!!!!!!!

[MX7]

Perfectly OK to think it's awesome a woman has made so many amazing games in such a male dominated industry. Denying any discourse on the basis gender/ethnicity etc even existing has led to a convenient widespread ignorance of the very real subjugation of women in the 21st century. OP stated that he comes from a sexist/racist community and now he thinks a Japanese woman is pretty cool? Well that sounds awesome to me!

ANYWAY we should be talking about Reiko Kodama regardless because of her ridiculous talent in crafting perfect videogames. Games like Phantasy Star 2, glorious to behold and uncompromising in its brutal difficulty, like crawling through some fucking printed circuit board while pounding hi gain FM synth crashes through your head. I first played the series as an adult, and it acted as some kind of abrasive poultice, sucking out any residual childhood nostalgia for Final Fantasy and replacing it with hot, visceral, expertly paced RPGs. Phantasy Star IV was a lot easier, but stupidly gorgeous and remains one of the few 16 bit RPGs with a genuinely good story (certainly puts Final Fantasy VI to shame). The jewel in PS4's crown is the soundtrack, which is possibly the best soundtrack to any videogame ever, all glorious arpeggios saturated with that thick MD bass. (Also, the soundtrack was written by a woman, ZOMGWTFOTLETC)

[BIL]

The jewel in PS4's crown is the soundtrack, which is possibly the best soundtrack to any videogame ever, all glorious arpeggios saturated with that thick MD bass. (Also, the soundtrack was written by a woman, ZOMGWTFOTLETC)

I did always appreciate Zio/Lassic boss theme "Laughter"'s eschewing of "epic" for "stomp on your fucking head."

[railslave]

Can imagine Izuho Numata walking around the streets with some of those tunes in her head... crazy messed up stuff .!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Adyn0V ... EF707F65F0

Women knew how to party hard in those days, by the sound of it!

[Specineff]

Funny how women played an influential factor designing in the 16-bit days. But what about now? Is it all the Goichi Sudas, Shinji Mikamis and such? Are there any influential ladies working on current-gen consoles?

[MX7]

'Laughter' is one of the greatest pieces of chip-music ever. Absolutely primal and menacing, especially consdering the context it's played in.

[Ganelon]

I'd agree that in the realm of Japanese video game soundtracks, there's no gender difference. If anything, JP female composers tend to focus on romantic-style compositions, which are my preference. Many games known for their music are female-composed.

As for Phantasy Star III, I'm a big fan but the high points are definitely from the women: Ozaki's character designs and Ippo's music. PSIII was definitely the installment that could've gained the most from a remake that added all the plot elements originally cut for time.

Ippo has a lot of clever aspects in her music. Two of my favorites are:

-The Ground in PSIII that grows from a solo piece to a quintet depending on number of party members. Sadly, it looks like the preliminary pieces can't be found on YouTube anymore
-Land master AXV-25 in PSIV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZULs_ffj_f8). The vehicular overworld piece that doesn't really start until 25 sec. in, far longer than the regular 10 sec. between random battles. That means players will usually never hear the upbeat part unless they stop for awhile even though nothing else (not even menus) are accessible while in a vehicle

[Obiwanshinobi]

As expected of country quite efficient at training classical musicians (the area where females compete with males on a regular basis), no wonder if you are good at making music there, you get jobs.
Societies of disparity all seem to have such enclaves for the downtrodden. We just rarely get to hear about it.

[KAI]

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