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Touhou 14 demo released: Something about a bomb

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So yeah

Touhou Kishinjou ~ Double Dealing Character is now officially announced, trial for Reitaisai.

Supposedly a return to more classic shmupping without any complex system.

Three playable characters: Reimu, Marisa and some unimportant bitch in blue.

But seriously look at those faces.
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Zun may suck ass at drawing but he more than makes up for it with the music.

So we're both getting the full release of Hopeless Masquerade and a demo of Touhou 14 this month, sounds good to me.
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Yield wrote:Zun may suck ass at drawing but the legions of non-player h-artist fans more than make up for it
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wow though, it really is kind of a shock to see how bad this guy is at that

doesn't matter though, so did lots of the gentlemen behind many of the best classic arcade games. If he was drawing gritty Contra men we would call this a masterpiece of course.
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Sadly, I think that's probably the best art he's done since the PC-9801 games. The legs even have some sort of definition! Skin color is still horribly wrong though :V
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trap15 wrote:Sadly, I think that's probably the best art he's done since the PC-9801 games. The legs even have some sort of definition! Skin color is still horribly wrong though :V

Agreed, also WHERE IS SANAE?

About the skin colour, come on have you never seen those classical japanese classical paintings that depict women skin colour like that? Being ZUN as nationalust as he is it wouldn' surprise me that the skin colour comes from there.

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He is getting better... I wonder why he never asked one of those doujin circles to draw the characters for him. Some of them are really damn good. Especially this Usotsukiya guy. Dem socks.
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Teufel_in_Blau wrote:He is getting better... I wonder why he never asked one of those doujin circles to draw the characters for him. Some of them are really damn good. Especially this Usotsukiya guy. Dem socks.
You can't be serious about that guy drawing for the main games :lol: It would sexualize every char.
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Teufel_in_Blau wrote:He is getting better... I wonder why he never asked one of those doujin circles to draw the characters for him. Some of them are really damn good. Especially this Usotsukiya guy. Dem socks.
Talking about Touhou artists and mentioning Usotsukiya instead of DanteWontDie?

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Wonder if its just me, or do anyone else also think all games looks the same :shock:
Not hating on Touhou I like PCB and IN, but would be nice if the games could change, backround and characters always the same in my eyes.
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Yield wrote:
Teufel_in_Blau wrote:He is getting better... I wonder why he never asked one of those doujin circles to draw the characters for him. Some of them are really damn good. Especially this Usotsukiya guy. Dem socks.
Talking about Touhou artists and mentioning Usotsukiya instead of DanteWontDie?

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z0mbie90 wrote:Wonder if its just me, or do anyone else also think all games looks the same :shock:
Not hating on Touhou I like PCB and IN, but would be nice if the games could change, backround and characters always the same in my eyes.
Welp he's allways had this problem but it's balanced by the music patterns and sometimes the characters.
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z0mbie90 wrote:Wonder if its just me, or do anyone else also think all games looks the same
Not just you, the same engine games tend to look pretty similar.
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He's just getting progressively drunker as he develops each game .. >_>
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Udderdude wrote:He's just getting progressively drunker as he develops each game .. >_>

Why do you reach this conclusion? :lol:
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It's the kindest assumption we can make.

Will be interesting to see how this turns out. It looks like Ten Desires minus the weird spirit system. Which means if nothing else, it will be better than Ten Desires.
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Here's the hint about whatever new system Zun is implementing:
彼女達は武器を手にとって闘うか、それとも武器を捨てるのか……?」
"Will the girls take their weapons or fight, or will they throw them away....?"

Perhaps this is hinting at some kind of melee system?
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J_Taishu wrote:Here's the hint about whatever new system Zun is implementing:
彼女達は武器を手にとって闘うか、それとも武器を捨てるのか……?」
"Will the girls take their weapons or fight, or will they throw them away....?"

Perhaps this is hinting at some kind of melee system?

Seems like ZUN has discovered point blanking. The problem is that the way he design his bullet paterns aren't fit for it.
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Art looks a lot worse than usual to me, still it's the game system that matters, like is there a graze counter in there?
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Yeah, under Power and Point item thing there's GUREIZU.
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Why would you want some filthy doujin artist to draw the characters like sluts instead of classy well-dressed ladies like ZUN does?
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Seems like ZUN has discovered point blanking. The problem is that the way he design his bullet paterns aren't fit for it.
Half of TD's designs were designed with to be doable at midscreen or higher. Obviously this fucked the game for the ranged weapon master race, so if this game goes the melee route it has to make everyone melee.
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Formless God wrote:
Seems like ZUN has discovered point blanking. The problem is that the way he design his bullet paterns aren't fit for it.
Half of TD's designs were designed with to be doable at midscreen or higher. Obviously this fucked the game for the ranged weapon master race, so if this game goes the melee route it has to make everyone melee.

Yeah, that's why he created the spirit world mode and the bomb spam for the scoring system :roll:

He didn't created a proper game for the system he made. There are only a few patterns on the bosses that lets you pointblank then without using trance or a bomb. And the milking is almost non-existent on the stages.
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I'm pretty excited for the game since Touhou is my favorite shmups series. Looking forward for may 26.
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I dunno, I always found the amateurish art to be part of the charm. Maybe I'm weird.
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BulletMagnet wrote:I dunno, I always found the amateurish art to be part of the charm. Maybe I'm weird.
This.

There are some pretty nice fan artists out there, but Zun's cutesie but amateur style honestly makes the games stand out more.
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I'm just excited about it being in 1280x960.

I think I stopped using a 640x480 monitor back in 1998.

Edit: Also, the Touhou Patch Center guys are planning to release the first version of their patch tool within hours of the demo release, assuming no major engine changes. It'll automatically generate and download a new translation patch (for any language) whenever anyone makes an approved edit to the wiki. You can even mix and match patches - for example, let's say you want the game to be in German whenever possible, English for the parts that haven't been translated into German yet, but you want all the spell card names to be in English; you can do that. They're also planning on making it compatible with the entire series except for the fighting games - this includes the PC98 games. So that's pretty cool.
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oboewan42 wrote:I'm just excited about it being in 1280x960.

I think I stopped using a 640x480 monitor back in 1998.
Ten Desires got 1280 x 960 as well, so I guess it's natural that Touhou 14 will too.

I'm just hoping it'll also have an option for 1280 x 960 in fullscreen.
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Formless God wrote:Why would you want some filthy doujin artist to draw the characters like sluts instead of classy well-dressed ladies like ZUN does?
I'm thinking of about two dozen (fetish?) artists who manage both at once 8)
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I don't understand why people complain so much about the art. Yeah, he's bad at that, but the dude programs and designs the game, composes the music and does the graphics. He can't do everything right. It would be nice if he got some proper artists and musicians though. Since everyone is posting their favorite fan artists, this would be my pick, but that would probably not be moe enough for the fans.

As for the game itself... simpler scoring, hints at melee attacks... add fast bullets to that and that might be really interesting! As long as it is more like UFO and SA and less like TD, I'll be looking forward to play it.
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eh, Zun's art isn't that bad
Half kidding [I've seen much, much worse, there ], although this is certainly better than his other efforts.
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