Radiant Silvergun (ARC/SAT/XBLA/NS/PC) 2013

[Zaarock]

Radiant Silvergun (1998) is Treasure's first shmup, and the predecessor to even more famed Ikaruga, both produced and directed by Hiroshi Iuchi. the primary inspiration for Silvergun is stated to be Image Fight(1988) by IREM. the game features a multi-weapon system that often encourages tactical weapon choices and positioning over the usual shooting and dodging. It's disliked by many players for mechanics that tie scoring to survival, and liked by equally as many for its audiovisual flare and epic(though somewhat JRPG-ish) feel.

Today the game finds itself on three platforms: Sega's ST-V arcade hardware, Sega Saturn, and Xbox Live Arcade. Let the traffic light chaining begin!

Strategy discussions:
RQ: Levelling weapons in Radiant Silvergun
RQ: Need good Radiant Silvergun strat source.
RQ: Radiant Silvergun 1cc
RQ: RSG's last boss?

Strategy guides:
Ben Shinobi's players guide (french, shmup.com)

Other:
Version discussion

Rules:
- single credit, no continues
- all gameplay settings (difficulty, extends, etc.) on defaults
- in Saturn & Story modes, the game must be played from a clean state, starting with default weapon levels

Score submission format:

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version - mode/route - chaining type(if XBLA version)
name - score - stage - weapon levels

Write stage names as they appear in the game to avoid confusion. The stage order is the following: 3-2/4-5-6-1 where the numbers signify chronological order of events. Arcade mode forces you to choose between 2 and 4 while Saturn/Story mode makes you go through both. If playing on an emulator please specify the one you used.


Arcade mode

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          ============ Stage 4 route ============
##  Name               Score        Stg   Weapon lvls   Version
WR  T3-CYR-WIZ       - 27,550,780 - ALL - A33 B33 C33

01. ben.shinobi      - 26,498,070 - ALL - A33 B33 C33 - STV
02. Jaimers          - 22,686,270 - ALL - A33 B28 C33 - Steam
03. Zerst            - 21,703,770 - ALL - A33 B29 C33 - XBLA
04. jpj              - 20,671,690 - ALL - A33 B30 C33 - Saturn
05. T-hawk           - 20,217,450 - ALL - A33 B25 C33 - Saturn
06. EmperorIng       - 13,593,850 - ALL - A33 B19 C33 - Steam
07. Kenchan          - 12,678,390 - ALL - A23 B18 C33 - Saturn
08. Zaarock          - 11,957,230 -  1  - A33 B15 C28 - XBLA
09. Erppo            - 10,569,970 - ALL - A30 B16 C25 - XBLA
10. Fogelmir         -  8,471,450 -  5A - A25 B16 C21 - XBLA
11. Phobic           -  5,157,060 -  4? - A?? B?? C?? - Saturn


          ============ Stage 2 route ============
##  Name               Score        Stg   Weapon lvls   Version
WR  T3-CYR-WIZ       - 23,101,650 - ALL - A33 B3? C33

01. ben.shinobi      - 22,070,120 - ALL - A33 B32 C33 - STV
02. BLZ              - 14,091,850 - ALL - A31 B21 C33 - XBLA
03. EmperorIng       - 12,953,450 - ALL - A33 B20 C25 - Steam
04. CRI              - 12,391,060 - ALL - A33 B20 C26
05. Plasmo           -  9,568,980 - ALL - A26 B17 C23 - Saturn
06. Erppo            -  8,848,960 - ALL - A26 B16 C21 - XBLA
07. man9child        -  8,616,720 -  6  - A25 B15 C23
08. Guigui           -  7,947,860 - ALL - A?? B?? C??
09. STG              -  7,436,320 - ALL - A25 B14 C19
10. Kaede            -  7,410,500 -  6  - A22 B16 C18
11. AST-POW          -  7,325,390 -  5  - A20 B16 C20 
12. Nereid           -  7,268,440 - ALL - A21 B17 C19 - XBLA
13. DMC              -  7,209,750 - ALL - A22 B15 C18 - Switch
14. sky-13           -  7,200,440 - ALL - A22 B13 C20 - Saturn
15. pja              -  6,282,420 - ALL - A20 B13 C19 - EMU (Mednafen 1.26.1)
16. MJR              -  5,781,620 -  2  - A19 B11 C19 - Saturn
17. Enigma           -  5,248,480 -  2D - A17 B14 C15 - XBLA

Saturn/Story mode

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##  Name               Score        Stg   Weapon lvls   Version
WR  ben.shinobi      - 40,289,930 - ALL - A33 B26 C33 - Steam

01. ben.shinobi      - 40,289,930 - ALL - A33 B26 C33 - Steam
02. Zerst            - 28,972,480 - ALL - A28 B21 C30 - XBLA
03. T-hawk           - 27,285,080 -  6  - A31 B21 C27 - Saturn
04. SamIAm           - 13,676,420 -  5  - A22 B14 C18 - Saturn
05. Kenchan          -  8,493,450 -  4B - A?? B?? C?? - XBLA
06. Erppo            -  7,969,980 -  4B - A17 B10 C14 - XBLA
07. Zaarock          -  5,158,620 -  2E - A?? B?? C?? - XBLA

Arcade mode — Ikaruga chaining (XBLA)

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          ============ Stage 4 route ============
##  Name               Score        Stg   Weapon levels
WR

01. Kenchan          -  8,869,730 -  5A - A?? B?? C??


          ============ Stage 2 route ============
##  Name               Score        Stg   Weapon levels
WR

01. Enigma           -  4,242,410 -  2C - A24 B11 C15

Story mode — Ikaruga chaining (XBLA)

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##  Name               Score        Stg   Weapon levels
WR  

01. Kenchan          - 12,611,450 -  5A - A?? B?? C??

Saturn Practice mode

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##  Name               Score

01. ben.shinobi      - 50,117,420
02. jpj              - 50,106,280
03. Kenchan          - 50,087,060
04. Plasmo           - 50,086,010
05. MJR              - 50,083,590

Previous score threads: moozooh's, Plasmo's, jp's, ben.shinobi's.

Thanks to moozooh for running the previous thread. Sorry about the blatant copy-paste

[ben.shinobi]

ben.shinobi - Saturn mode - 38.933.140 pts - all clear - A33 B25 C32

[ben.shinobi]

ben.shinobi - Saturn mode - 39.229.230 pts - all clear - A33 B26 C32

[ben.shinobi]

ben.shinobi - Saturn mode - 39.451.240 pts - all clear - A33 B25 C32
(+74k missed on 4B)

[ben.shinobi]

saturn mode - 39.580.350 pts - All clear (3 miss) - A33 B25 C33

Perfect run !!!

[Plasmo]

Did you record this run? Can you upload it to somewhere?

I'm dying to see some of your top-tier Saturn mode strategies!

[ben.shinobi]

unfortunately not !!! my best score recorded is 39.2M
I've a playlist with score attack saturn mode:
http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x2m ... ilvergun/1
Some replays and some patterns are old but in total is about 39.5M.
On my last hiscore, stage 5 was 16.2M witch is the best I can do.

[guigui]

This is crazy :
- scratch the smallest pink bullet and ennemy
- shoot every ennemy, even if it is not part of a chain, to get points and weapon bonuses
- kill each boss with homing plasma at min power to maximize weapon bonuses
- get a full 100.000 chain on that stage 5 where I cant even see the color of the turrets
- kill Xiga by simply holding A+B, manipulating the stick with your feet ?

Who thought some guy can achieve this level of perfection ? Congrats

[ben.shinobi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPeHuCJntGM

I've uploaded for you my best run recorded (39.2).
Unfortunately, I've made 2 big mistakes on stage 2C and 2E. about 200k miss.
Stage 3, 4, 5 & 6 are very clean.

[Plasmo]

Thanks very much for uploading!

Will you go and try for the 40mill?

[ben.shinobi]

Arcade mode - 22.070.120 pts - All clear - A33 B32 C33 (STV)

[Zaarock]

Crazy score! congrats on the improvement!

[pja]

I was encouraged to post this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p21uXwZjWXQ

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Saturn version, Arcade mode, Stage 2 route
pja - 6,282,420 - ALL - A20 B13 C19

This was played on an emulator (Mednafen 1.26.1).

I was going for the clear, and not much for score though - this does happen to be my top score, but I had some runs close to 1CC that were worse by 1mil (missing the big chain in Stage 2) - it wouldn't be even top 20 on my own leaderboard

[EmperorIng]

Glad I can finally add a clear here! I've wanted to 1cc this game for years, even owning the Saturn copy and putting dozens of hours onto it. However I could never quite clinch it, making it to stage 5 at best. However, I started the last two weeks experimenting with mednafen, which has some pretty good response time (apparently 3 frames of lag, if the Steam port thread is to be believed), which makes it very responsive, and maybe the best way to play the "arcade" version on PC. With save-states and a few dedicated nights of practice, I did what I couldn't do over 5 years of on-and-off practice. Though I suppose those dozens of hours meant I had internalized and memorized a lot of the game already.

This run was almost a no-miss too! I died right during the Stone-Like's final volley, which was very disappointing.

Saturn (Emu thru Mednafen) - Arcade (Stage 2) -
EmperorIng - 7,691,560 - ALL - A24 B16 C18

Video

[Jaimers]

Arcade mode
Jaimers - 22,686,270 - ALL - A33 B28 C33 - Steam

Video

First Steam entry.

[EmperorIng]

Pretty amazing video all around, that stage 5 chain is seriously nuts, I don't know how you can process all that visual clutter and still make it out alive. Big congratulations my man.

I've been using the video for a few hints and strategies to take on the stage 4 route myself. I don't think I'll be able to do any chaining in stage 5 past the first half of the stage however. I also know I can know easily beat my 2 route score above with a little extra application and effort (stage 4, no question, there is just so much more to gain in that route, maybe I should adjust my goals to 10 million).

[DMC]

Switch - Arcade mode/Stage 2 - Normal
DMC- 7,209,750 - ALL - A22 B15 C18

My first clear of Radiant Silvergun, a game I wanted to clear for a long time so felt damn nice. Always assumed it to be more difficult than it is.

Watched some educative runs by Mark MSX, STG, EmperorIng, Jaimers, and Ben -- just so cool to see the different approaches to this game.

Pretty amazing video all around, that stage 5 chain is seriously nuts, I don't know how you can process all that visual clutter and still make it out alive.

Yes, stage 5 chaining separates the wheat from the chaff.

[Van_Artic]

I shouldn't trust twitch to keep my replay, but at least i have it saved locally

Arcade mode
BLZ - 14,091,850 - ALL (Stage 2 route) - A31 B21 C33 - XBLA

video: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1661983660

[EmperorIng]

Hey, nice score!

You approach in stage 5 for the start of the battleship interior is interesting - i've never seen someone tackle it like that before!

[EmperorIng]

I've been inspired lately to come back and improve my score. I consider this a "stepping stone" to an eventual stage 4 route clear, but I need a break. It's been nearly 20 hours of practice just to eke this out. I feel like a lot of the pain came from the steam port's inferior performance to emulating on mednefen (ie, less slowdown, generally faster, and not as responsive on inputs). Still I did it! Even though I did not chain stage 5 as well as I would have liked (dying 2/3rds through), I managed to at least get about 5ish million from the whole process.

Arcade (Steam) - Arcade (Stage 2) -
EmperorIng - 12,953,450 - ALL - A33 B20 C25

https://youtu.be/3mgxkgGa7ro

[EmperorIng]

Finally achieved a long-held goal of 1cc'ing the stage 4 route! Too bad the score is lousy
I messed up the chain in 4a, which cost me about 700,000, and I made many, many mistakes in stage 5, which was annoying. I think if I can get a good flow going on the battleship I could max out my score potential at around 18 million, which I would be more than happy with. For now, this is a stepping stone!

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2243824608

Arcade (Steam) - Arcade (Stage 4) -
EmperorIng - 13,593,850 - ALL - A33 B19 C33

[Unreal704]

I finally managed to get a 1CC of my favorite shmup! I used the stage 2 route and plan to learn the stage 4 route next. Nothing too special was done in this run other than nailing the yellow chain during the Golets fight. I messed up the last chain in stage 3, missing out on 70-100k worth of points. I also missed a yellow on the stage 3D chain, missing about 80k. Maybe down the road I'll have the guts to learn the stage 5 chain.

Arcade Mode - Stage 2 Normal (Switch)
Unreal704 - ALL - 8,146,290 - A24 B16 C20

EDIT: I noticed the switch leaderboards aren't working so I wanted to try and post a score on the steam version and I managed to beat my PB by about 850k! I added in a yellow chain at the beginning of 5A to help get me close to 9 million. Unfortunately I died towards the end of the chain losing about 100,000 points. I still messed up the last chain in 3E losing 70-100k worth of points and managed to miss the yellow chain at the beginning of 2A losing about 90,000 points.

Arcade Mode - Stage 2 Normal (Steam)
Unreal704 - ALL - 8,992,450 - A26 B17 C22

Video