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Are there any companies or people that build high quality shielded custom cables to order?

I need a Female Japanese-21 to HD15 Male with Male RCA (red/white) analog break-outs.

And a HD15 Female with Female RCA (red/white) analog break-outs to Male Japanese-21.
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I make custom cables. Here are some examples:

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.ph ... 53#p771353

Are you wanting sync combining/separation, or just the connector for RGBS/RGBCv?
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RGB32E wrote:I make custom cables.
But are they high quality AND shielded? :P
RGB32E wrote:Are you wanting sync combining/separation?
Do you think I would need that?

The Female Japanese-21 to HD15 Male with Male RCA (red/white) analog break-outs would be from a PlayStation 2 (SCPH-1050) JP21 cable into a XSELECT-D4's HD15 input and would be for both 15khz/31khz.

Then the XSELECT-D4's HD15 RGBHV output into an Extron RGB for RGBs then into the HD15 Female with Female RCA (red/white) analog break-outs to Male Japanese-21 would go into a last go into a Mini.
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If you get a sync combiner in your XSELECT > MINI cable, then you could throw out the RGB interface in between.
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Fudoh wrote:If you get a sync combiner in your XSELECT > MINI cable, then you could throw out the RGB interface in between.
Then I guess I would want a sync combiner. :D
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Seraphic wrote:
Fudoh wrote:If you get a sync combiner in your XSELECT > MINI cable, then you could throw out the RGB interface in between.
Then I guess I would want a sync combiner. :D
And if the sync combiner was in a HD15 to 8MDIN cable, you wouldn't need to use the JP21 to 8MDIN adapter... Amazing, huh? :wink:
Seraphic wrote:But are they high quality AND shielded? :P
Of course!
Seraphic wrote:The Female Japanese-21 to HD15 Male with Male RCA (red/white) analog break-outs would be from a PlayStation 2 (SCPH-1050) JP21 cable into a XSELECT-D4's HD15 input and would be for both 15khz/31khz.
I don't have a XSELECT-D4, but am wondering if it will accept RGsB (31kHz mode), or would you switch to component for that?

EDIT:
After translating the spec/usage page on Micomsoft's site, it seems like a futile effort.
http://micomsoft.co.jp/xselect-d4_detail.htm

Input 3 is intended for RGBHV input only. So what's really needed is for Micomsoft to add RGsB capability in a FW update. If you're using component for 480p, you might as well just use the D input on the mini. Otherwise, you'd need to get a sync separator for the RGBCv output from the playstation for 15kHz and just feed that contraption into your Extron.

SCPH-1050 -> Convert to SCART -> Sync Strike -> Extron RGB -> BNC to VGA adapter (RGBS) -> HD15 to 8MDIN

But even with that, you'd still have to flip the SoG switch on an extron when in 31kHz RGB mode. On top of that, a sync separator circuit might send a signal when the PS2 is set to 31kHz mode, so that could be an issue too, even if composite video is disabled in that mode. So, there really isn't a good solution, other than SoG support added to the mini. :lol:

On further thought:
Perhaps the XSYNC-1 magically handles the 31kHz SoG. I'd have to try this out. The 8DIN output is RGBS, and the audio outputs on the two RCA connectors, but I don't think this is supported either! :mrgreen:
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Fudoh said the back HD15 input on the XSELECT-D4 supports YUV, RGBHV, RGsB and RGBs then it is transcoded to on RGBHV output.

I do have a XSYNC-1, but found it might output odd resolutions last time I used it. But I could use it for the back HD15 input on the D4. Wanted to remove it from the chain.
But the Xsync takes JP21 to HD15 with RCA breakouts which also can go into the D4. In their demo, Micomsoft used the Xsync-1 directly into the Mini using a 8Din to 8MiniDin.
Does the 8Din on the Xsync-1 pass audio from the JP21?

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Fudoh said the back HD15 input on the XSELECT-D4 supports YUV, RGBHV, RGsB and RGBs then it is transcoded to on RGBHV output.
just go into the menu. Input3 can be set to YUV, RGBHV, RGBC (RGBs) and RGBSG (RGsB). If you chose YUV then probably the D-Terminal input is used instead of the HD15 input, but the other three should relate to the "VGA" input. Unfortunately the manual is copy protected, so I cannot copy/paste the notes about this input in some translator.
But I could use it for the back HD15 input on the D4. Wanted to remove it from the chain.
you could at least try this once to see if the Input3 on the XSelect handles both 15khz and 31khz inputs in RGBHV format.
Does the 8Din on the Xsync-1 pass audio from the JP21?
no.
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you could at least try this once to see if the Input3 on the XSelect handles both 15khz and 31khz inputs in RGBHV format.
I am not sure what mode of RGB the Xsync-1 outputs. But are you saying going from the PS2 -> Xsync-1 -> XSelect-D4?
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I am not sure what mode of RGB the Xsync-1 outputs
RGBHV on the HD15 connector and RGBs on the Din8 connector.
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I tested it out and the XSYNC-1 does not convert RGsB to RGBHV from a PS2 in 31kHz/480p mode.

[quote="Fudoh"]just go into the menu. Input3 can be set to YUV, RGBHV, RGBC (RGBs) and RGBSG (RGsB). If you chose YUV then probably the D-Terminal input is used instead of the HD15 input, but the other three should relate to the "VGA" input. Unfortunately the manual is copy protected, so I cannot copy/paste the notes about this input in some translator.[quote]

That's interesting that the XSelect-D4 can accept RGsB on that input, but unfortunately it's a manual setting instead of automatic.
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RGB32E wrote:I tested it out and the XSYNC-1 does not convert RGsB to RGBHV from a PS2 in 31kHz/480p mode.
Doesn't the XSync-1 output RGBHV on the HD15 connector and RGBs on the Din8 connector?
Or on both outputs, RGsB in, RGsB out? What is the point of a XSync-1 then? To just change the JP21 to HD15/8Din?

Fudoh, on the HD15 Input-3, if you input RGsB will the XSelect-D4 still convert the output to RGBHV?
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For you - right now - the point of the XSync is the test if the HD15 input on the XSelect does suport 15khz at all.

And yes, 31khz RGsB is converted to RGBHV by the XSelect.
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Fudoh wrote:For you - right now - the point of the XSync is the test if the HD15 input on the XSelect does suport 15khz at all.
Will test this on Sunday and let you know.

RGB32E, I am still interested in some cables! =D
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Tested this today Fudoh with a PlayStation 2 and SNES both using Japanese 21 RGB cable into the XSelect's front RGB input.
For both consoles, with the XSelect accepted and passed 15khz sources without issues.
However, my monitor displayed the sources with a green tint.

I also tried RGsB 31khz sources from PlayStation 2 using same Japanese 21 RGB cable into the XSelect's back HD15 input with help of an Xsync-1.
Just set the HD15 input to RGBHV and it accepted and passed 31khz sources without issues.
My monitor displayed no green tint.

RGB32E, do you think you could still make me a cable or two?
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And what about 15khz on the back input ? Does it work ?
Doesn't the SNES output RGBs in RGB mode? Asking because the XSelect wouldn't only find input when set to RGBHV.
all systems output in RGBs format when they output 15khz RGB. Don't understand the second sentence, sorry.
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Fudoh wrote:And what about 15khz on the back input ? Does it work.
Yes, it does. Just used the XSync-1 to change JP21 to HD15 and set XSelect to RGBHV.
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Oh and Fudoh, is there a way to reset the XSelect to all default settings?
Did not notice one in the menu.
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I don't think so. The only settings which you should check are the Y, Pb, Pr levels. They're quite coarse, so it's easy to set them back to the neutral middle level.
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Fudoh wrote:I don't think so. The only settings which you should check are the Y, Pb, Pr levels. They're quite coarse, so it's easy to set them back to the neutral middle level.
Alright, thanks. The XSelect is really great and I am really glad I got one. Wonder why they discontinued it?

Anyway, just want to get a custom female Japanese-21 to HD15 Male with Male RCA (red/white) analog break-outs cable.
That way I can just go from my PS2 right into the XSelect's HD15 port with audio for 15khz/31khz and won't have to use the XSync.
Then SNES can go into the front JP21 port and GameCube goes into D-Termial port one while PSP goes into D-Terminal port four.

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Seraphic wrote:The XSelect is really great and I am really glad I got one.
Well, they continued the DISPL also.
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I just thought of something that could be a problem when inputting 31khz from a PlayStation 2.
Does the HD15 output port on the XSelect-D4 support 720x480 output or is limited to 640x480 output?
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The XSelect is just an transcoder. It doesn't "see" 640x480 or 720x480. Both will work and output will follow the input.
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Alright, thanks. The XSelect is really great and I am really glad I got one. Wonder why they discontinued it?
Didn't they upgraded it to the "Selecty 21 Analog RGB Selector "? or is it an inferior/diferent product?
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completely different. The XSelect is a cross-format transcoder. http://nfggames.com/games/xselectd4/
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I see. Pity they don't manufactur it anymore then.

Talking about the source for custom cables, i would like to know too, but it will have to be located in Europe, as sending anything from outside EU to my country (Portugal) is getting more expensive than buying an Ferrari. Customs service are taxing very high imports, as a demand from IMF (international monetary fund).
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If time allows, Moosmann is always a great source for any custom cable needs.
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