Ketsui is a hell of a drug

[Illyrian]

So during this year's STGT when I've been taking a break from scraping into the top 50 each week, I've been hitting the Ketsui with a degree of rigour.

I'd previously complained in the shmup grievances thread that it was too hard.

You know what? I'm a dumbass. It's a game that seems initially just too brutal, to my noobish hands anyway, but it's starting to make sense now. I love the fact it requires my complete concentration right from the word go, and really takes your best efforts. I'm only hitting stage 1-4 now and then at the moment, but I love it. Even if it takes me all fucking year, I'm going to clear this game.

Ketsui is glorious, and if you're one of the two people here who hasn't played it, do so now.

And yeah, I know I'm kinda preaching the choir here.

[Op Intensify]

Lock this thread before it turns into another unrelated argument that ends with death threats and multiple bans.

[Aquas]

Ketsui is one of the most hardcore games out there. Glorious is a good word for it, yeah. I got to play it on cab recently and gained a new appreciation for it.

[Ed Oscuro]

Lock this thread before it turns into another unrelated argument that ends with death threats and multiple bans.

Why not get the bans out of the way first?

Anyway, Ketsui had me pleasantly surprised from the get-go, with a fairly simple-seeming mechanic that I picked up on pretty quickly. ESPgaluda didn't strike me as too tough to learn about, but Ketsui is relatively obvious (although the relative merits of laser held button shots vs. the regular escapes me for the moment). The enemies seem mostly pretty good about letting you get close so you can execute the scoring mechanic.

(Though now I am mildly disturbed to wonder what that polygon-using game from Cave could've been...immature senility is a fine thing, don't laugh!)

[emphatic]

Stay high up on the screen on stage 4 to win.

[O. Van Bruce]

Don't use lock shot through most of the stage 4 and you'll easily survive that stage. You have to memorize and anticipate the appearance of the big enemies during the stage, specially the last 2 helicopters at the end of the stage.

[Smraedis]

It's good as you have to keep up with the constant attack of enemy patterns, but I find stage 5 too hard, but at least you get a lot of lives in the game.

[KAI]

Ketsui? never heard of it.

[Kollision]

And yet that Espgaluda thing was chosen over Ketsui....

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[shmuppyLove]

I want Ketsui with DDP-style shoop da woop lazors. Lock shot is too weaksauce.

Even better would be G-Darius-style lazor battles.

Isn't there an arrange mode for the 360 port? Ketsupachi or something?

[BareKnuckleRoo]

I think you're thinking of DaiFukkatsu's Black Label Arrange mode.

[shmuppyLove]

I think you're thinking of DaiFukkatsu's Black Label Arrange mode.

Dear god that looks like an unholy mess. Isn't that DFK with Ketsui ships?

I want Ketsui with DDP ships. I guess the opposite of Ketsuipachi is ... DoDonTsui?

[Drachenherz]

*snip* DoDonTsui?

I'd hit that!

[evil_ash_xero]

Yeah, but I prefer cocaine.

[Ed Oscuro]

chicken chop tsui

please enjoy our stable of strapping young males who will deliver your delicious steaming chicken dish in the minimum of time, because we know you'd rather be eating and not waiting!

[moh]

chicken chop tsui

please enjoy our stable of strapping young males who will deliver your delicious steaming chicken dish in the minimum of time, because we know you'd rather be eating and not waiting!

this may just replace my existing sig.

i need some time the think about it.

[Ed Oscuro]

Rumor has it that my ego is overly inflated these days, but be my guest! Quick quips served with hot squash or your quid back.

[Cagar]

The only bad thing about ketsui are the non-animated penetrator-bullets, which leads everyone to rage.
EDIT: Ketsui was my first 1cc, took me almost a month (several hours per day) last christmas, and now I can get to hibachi in DOJBL. Haha, fucking casuals.

[emphatic]

The only bad thing about ketsui are the non-animated penetrator-bullets, which leads everyone to rage.
EDIT: Ketsui was my first 1cc, took me almost a month (several hours per day) last christmas, and now I can get to hibachi in DOJBL. Haha, fucking casuals.

Your mommy must be very proud.

[Illyrian]

The only bad thing about ketsui are the non-animated penetrator-bullets, which leads everyone to rage.
EDIT: Ketsui was my first 1cc, took me almost a month (several hours per day) last christmas, and now I can get to hibachi in DOJBL. Haha, fucking casuals.

You look like a girl, Cagar.

[Seppo Hovi]

EDIT: Ketsui was my first 1cc, took me almost a month (several hours per day) last christmas, and now I can get to hibachi in DOJBL. Haha, fucking casuals.

In the Touhou community, those who only go for basic clears instead of scoring are dirty secondaries.

I guess you are a fucking casual, Cagar.

[SuperSoaker360]

I'm only hitting stage 1-4 now and then at the moment, but I love it. Even if it takes me all fucking year, I'm going to clear this game.

Yeah, learning a game slowly and seeing progress is really satisfying. I'm still not good enough to even 1-ALL this game though.

You look like a girl, Cagar.

[ciox]

Speaking of Ketsui, anyone else play the Mr.Stoic arrange a lot? It's my go-to option because I honestly love seeing the backgrounds better without all the chips, but how does it compare to the original as far as difficulty goes? I can't tell much of a difference after playing both but it might be a little easier because of faster ship speed.

[Cagar]

Woah what the fuck, it was just a harmless joke

You look like a girl, Cagar.

No i don't, and I thought we were talking about games.

[Illyrian]

Yes you do, and we were doing fine until you showed up in this thread.

Can anyone explain the whole "empty lock" thing? I wouldn't kmind trying it on the first level a bit!

[Cagar]

Yes you do, and we were doing fine until you showed up in this thread.

Can anyone explain the whole "empty lock" thing? I wouldn't kmind trying it on the first level a bit!

I did nothing special, quit bitcing.
Empty locking is a "special technique" (I don't even know if this was intentional) which lets you get more.. boxes(?) and score bigger. You have to lock an enemy (or enemies) right before they explode, so that they explode while your options are moving to lock-position. It's easy to practice this in the beginning of the first stage, with the 2 big gray planes. Look for superplay videos on youtube, especially this gray-plane part. I hope you understand, hard to explain with my english-skills

EDIT: Everything was fine until people took my joke as a personal insult, which would be worrying even if I was serious. Stop taking games so seriously.

[KAI]

Empty locking? sounds like that cheat on Progear that allows you to get an extend on the 1st stage.

Totally agreed with Seppo Hovi, I haven't cleared this game yet cause I'm playing for score.

[Aliquantic]

Empty locking? sounds like that cheat on Progear that allows you to get an extend on the 1st stage.

Wow, scoring mechanics are cheats now too? This is getting crazier and crazier... but the Progear comparison is fairly apt, since both mechanics are based on timing and are only necessary at high levels, when you're already getting 2-ALL with good survival.

[Illyrian]

It's worth doing the trick on progear given that the one time in 50 you get it to work, you scan score 35,000,000 points on the first level, leaving you with 10 lives for the rest of the run

[Seppo Hovi]

Just as a pointer, when nobody but you likes your joke, it probably is a very bad one.