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 Post subject: Differences between Batrider A & B-version?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:06 pm 


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Just got a Batrider PCB with the Jap A and accompanying Korean B-roms.
I heard that the A version is not used for scoring, for some unknown reason.
What are the differences between it and the B version?

I much prefer picking up the extends instead of just getting them.
Do i need to burn a set of B-roms to get a PCB eligible for scoring?
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 Post subject: Re: Differences between Batrider A & B-version?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:37 pm 


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 Post subject: Re: Differences between Batrider A & B-version?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:20 pm 


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Yeah i know, but there isn't enough info there.
Besides, the only thing that according to them differentiate between the two versions (changing Garegga option formations with C) works on my A-version. :shock:
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 Post subject: Re: Differences between Batrider A & B-version?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:24 am 


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Surprised nobody got to you with an answer.

The secret is C-button support, I think. Moving options were enjoyed by many top-flight players; it was not correct to say that the A version is not used for scoring so much as not as profitable (I suppose this could be fixed with a simple table addition...). I would fiddle with this in MAME to see if it is worthwhile to you.


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 Post subject: Re: Differences between Batrider A & B-version?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:22 pm 


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Thanks for the answer!

For some strange reason using the C-button to change Garegga formations worked fine on the A-roms.
But i felt it was better to be safe than sorry so i changed the roms to B anyways. I was lucky enough that the seller didn't know that the "Korean" roms were infact Japanese.
So i still get to catch my extends. :P
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 Post subject: Re: Differences between Batrider A & B-version?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:26 pm 


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I'm no expert on this game, get confirmation first.


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 Post subject: Re: Differences between Batrider A & B-version?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:53 pm 


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Looked into this and as suspected the World of Arcades site is wrong!
Both versions have the Garegga-ships change formations with C, but since Batrider was marketed as a two-button game they added the Street Fighter moves to change formations in the B-version, so players could change formation even on a two-button layout.

*pulls off the Sherlock Holmes hat*
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 Post subject: Re: Differences between Batrider A & B-version?
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Eaglet wrote:
Looked into this and as suspected the World of Arcades site is wrong!
Both versions have the Garegga-ships change formations with C, but since Batrider was marketed as a two-button game they added the Street Fighter moves to change formations in the B-version, so players could change formation even on a two-button layout.

*pulls off the Sherlock Holmes hat*


Thanks for the deduction, now tell me how you would like it worded on World Of Arcades ? :D
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 Post subject: Re: Differences between Batrider A & B-version?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:55 am 


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Thanks for the deduction, now tell me how you would like it worded on World Of Arcades ? :D

Wow, so you run WoA?
It's a great site. I've used the Raizing part a lot of times looking at dip switch settings etc. Saved my ass yesterday! :)

How about:
"This is the so called B-Version, released for the japanese market. Acc. to the manual, it allows the Garegga formations to be changed by inputting Street Fighter-style moves (for 2-button machines)"


The actual moves and the aforementioned info can be found in the lower part of the second page of the B-version manual: http://www.world-of-arcades.net/APPA/AA ... _Addon.pdf
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 Post subject: Re: Differences between Batrider A & B-version?
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Eaglet wrote:
Wow, so you run WoA?


Yes :D

Eaglet wrote:
Wow, so you run WoA?It's a great site. I've used the Raizing part a lot of times looking at dip switch settings etc. Saved my ass yesterday! :)


Thanks!

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How about: "This is the so called B-Version, released for the japanese market. Acc. to the manual, it allows the Garegga formations to be changed by inputting Street Fighter-style moves (for 2-button machines)"


Is this OK ?

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Perfect!
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