Music Not Working Properly in Ketsui in MAME

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Music Not Working Properly in Ketsui in MAME

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I'm playing on MAME UI32 build. If the following video has the real music from the PCB,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CGZTtPR ... re=related

then that music that plays on my version, the poop version, on the same stage is slightly slowed down (along with every other track in the game) and missing the guitar riffs @ 00:13.

This is bugging the shit out of me. Please advise.

Note: at the game's launch, the program says, "One or more ROMs/CHDs for this game are incorrect." and "Sound emulation is not 100% accurate." Does anyone have a working rom that does not get these messages? I think they both (or one of them) might be causing this problem.
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Ketsui works fine for me, I think you've just got bad ROMs.

Or maybe update your MAMEUI version.
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Sounds like the emulation is an issue, not the ROM data. Ie, all you can do is wait for someone to fix it. But I could be wrong, I guess, if BPzeBanshee is correct in that the sound is fine on his version of MAME.
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Sumez wrote:Sounds like the emulation is an issue, not the ROM data. Ie, all you can do is wait for someone to fix it. But I could be wrong, I guess, if BPzeBanshee is correct in that the sound is fine on his version of MAME.
Shmupmame v3.0b has no sound issues with it at all, and MAMEUI v141u1 lists it as 'Sound Emulation is not 100% accurate' but it works, and the ROM is listed as 'Best Available'. I'd have to actually get to Stage 4 by savestates to listen to the song in question properly but I dont have nor use savestates and from what I've heard that DOES break the game, at least in Shmupmame currently.

Firstly, Siren2011, make sure your MAME version is updated, or use the latest Shmupmame instead, and check your ROM because you're missing something and that may very well be the culprit. Sound emulation for Ketsui is said to not be 100% accurate in any case but the speed and instruments are almost perfect as is, and right on the ball in Shmupmame so it's something on your end methinks.
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Ketsui works fine for me, I think you've just got bad ROMs.
I think I sounded like I was exaggerating in my post. My ROM works fine too, it's just the subtle missing audio cues that bugged me.

The thing won't even start in SM v3.0b for me. It looks like I'll have to update my UI 0.140 version like you suggested. Thanks for the input, guys.
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Like MAME says, the emulation is not 100% accurate, but it's pretty damn close. I obviously can't vouch for your binary if you're not using the official build though. I've got an ICS2115 based board now but I haven't touched it because I've been pretty busy lately.

You can read about the progress here: http://raidenii.net/

I'll record a video of stage 4 and see if I can find the differences as far as the sound test goes (which is only good for 8 seconds ... but I plan to patch that away soon enough), it sounds pretty close.
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My version is updated to u2 when it could go a step farther to u3, but updating seems like a confusing can of worms that I'll have to open later tonight. It doesn't look as simple as "drag here and go".

I need to stifle my complaining ass for a moment to thank you, austere, and all of the others involved in this project. I can tell from the site you linked to that you guys have poured your hearts and souls into this project and are enjoying the process. I have had days worth of enjoyment with Ketsui thanks to you all (I'm almost at the 5th stage boss and I've been playing practically non-stop for a couple of months! I can't wait to meet DOOM and kick his ass!).
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No problem. You should upgrade to 141 though, that's where it's at. ;)

Anyway, I managed to get up to the 4th stage (I never continue so it took several tries). This game still kicks my ass so I didn't survive very long, but long enough:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxBX9ZLiCjk#t=9m48
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They should get back to work on Raiden II. :lol: <3
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That 141 version that austere suggested DOES fix the music problem that was previously bugging me. Yay!
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Erh, Ketsui doesn't work in the official 141, does it? I have some hacked older version needed to play it.
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The game runs successfully for me in 141. At first there were some visual difficulties, but this was fixable by fiddling with the display options.
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