ESPGaluda to be in the Smithsonian American Art Museum?

[TonK]

Looks like you have to vote to get it in.

http://www.facebook.com/CAVECoLtd/posts/102513696495466

Have you ever played the original Espgaluda for Arcade or PS2? Did you like it? Well, the Smithsonian American Art Museum likes it too! So much that they've nominated the PS2 version for inclusion in their "Art of Video Games" exhibition 2012! Games to be included are voted on at the site above, so we would appreciate your vote! Espgaluda is featured in the Era 5 section, page 3!

http://www.artofvideogames.org/

Vote for ESPGaluda!

[captpain]

Sorry, why did you title the thread what you did?

[Drum]

Sorry, why did you title the thread what you did?

Misleading title, but thanks for drawing my attention to this anyhow OP. Might actually get more interest if you put that you can vote for it as opposed to the selection being a lock.

[TonK]

Sorry, why did you title the thread what you did?

Misleading title, but thanks for drawing my attention to this anyhow OP. Might actually get more interest if you put that you can vote for it as opposed to the selection being a lock.

Added a "?" - hope that helps.

[Sandlegs]

i did a vote. for the galuda.

[mjclark]

Pleased to see you can also vote for Gradius III and Geometry Wars 2 but have to choose between Espgaluda and Gradius V for PS2.
Cavedom or Gradius, that age-old controversy

[tinotormed]

Yes, I've got an account for it. I voted for that game as well as Gradius III SNES.

[MathU]

I made an account just to vote for Super Metroid. And then it turns out that they don't even have it listed for SNES games.
Clearly, they need to hire a curator who actually knows something about video games. Seriously, Call of Duty: Black Ops? ET: The Extra Terrestial? SUPER STAR WARS? There's no way I can take this seriously. The only reason CAVE are even represented is because of their mainstream popularity.

R-Type, Darius Gaiden, Soukyugurentai, any Milestone game... These all have more merit as art than any CAVE game since Dodonpachi (except maybe Ketsui if you're arguing for beautiful bullet attacks). Their shooters are highly derivative.


I applaud someone taking some initiative to stand up for games as an art form, but it makes me uncomfortable that THIS is where my tax money is going. Hire someone who has a damn clue about games please, Smithsonian.

[Vyxx]

any Milestone game... These all have more merit as art than any CAVE game since Dodonpachi.

[supergrafx77]

Oh yeah!!! Vote cast!

[Drum]

I made an account just to vote for Super Metroid. And then it turns out that they don't even have it listed for SNES games.
Clearly, they need to hire a curator who actually knows something about video games. Seriously, Call of Duty: Black Ops? ET: The Extra Terrestial? SUPER STAR WARS? There's no way I can take this seriously. The only reason CAVE are even represented is because of their mainstream popularity.

R-Type, Darius Gaiden, Soukyugurentai, any Milestone game... These all have more merit as art than any CAVE game since Dodonpachi (except maybe Ketsui if you're arguing for beautiful bullet attacks). Their shooters are highly derivative.


I applaud someone taking some initiative to stand up for games as an art form, but it makes me uncomfortable that THIS is where my tax money is going. Hire someone who has a damn clue about games please, Smithsonian.

What the what is wrong with Super Star Wars? Game is awesome. It certainly looks awesome.

Those games you singled out as seem intended to show not so much just how pretty they are but to give you a good sense of what games at the time look/ed like, and to give people some real options/not just force a particular POV of what nice art is supposed to look like down people's throats. Give the curator some credit. There are a ton of rad games missing - Super Metroid is a great-looking game (most of the time) but I'm not sure I'd vote for it if it was there.

Also, Soukyugurentai? Uhh.

[MathU]

Super Star Wars is a fun game and a good game. However, I would not call it art in the least. It's simply a movie game. Playability does not have to relate to expression.

As I expected, players are going to vote for their favorite game instead of one with the most artistic merit. I absolutely can't stand Ikaruga, but I agree is has a very unique visual style and theme going for it, and that gives it merit.

[Drum]

Super Star Wars has some nice spritework - slicker than anything Nintendo did on the SNES other than Yoshi's Island/Kirby's Dreamland 3. Not that slickness is some essential element of visual design, but it's definitely an aspect and I'm glad they put it there as a possible example. I wouldn't vote for it over KD3/YI/Umihara Kawase/Atomic Runner/Gynoug/Bio-Hazard Battle/Sonic 2/Earthbound/a ton of other games but I think it was actually thoughtful to include it to get a cool range.

I understand they're mostly just looking at the visual aspect, or how the way the game plays ties into the visual aspect. I'm ok with that - it is an (visual) art gallery and not an arcade. They're not making a comment on games as art either way really. It's a 'small a' art exhibit and they're looking for a range of visual styles. I'm not saying Super Star Wars should be there because it plays great (it plays good - mostly - not great) - if they were only looking at gameplay, I'd be less inclined to include it.

Naturally, their picks for visuals are questionable but there is an ok mix in general. Not notably worse than anything I'd expect from, say, game critics. That may not be raising the bar very high.

[mesh control]

Bump.

They are announcing the winning games live.

http://www.artofvideogames.org/?utm_sou ... dium=email


I'm waiting for stupidity.


LOLZ if ESPGaluda is picked.

Edit: Winner list

[chempop]

Three Panzer Dragoon games, Rez, nice!
Too bad no Killer 7, Otogi, Snatcher, Jet Grind Radio...

[Limbrooke]

1943. Nobody does it better.

What a fine list although Metroid Prime 2 over 1? Doom 2 over 1? Halo 2 instead of Halo or better still Quake? Nobody is perfect and I cannot say I'm too upset at those points. Edit: Twilight Princess over Link's Awakening... hmm.

[Rob]

Tomb Raider, hell yeah.

[ratikal]

I think Metroid Prime 2 was a lot better presentation wise and gameplay wise. It just felt cooler. No Majora's Mask makes me cringe though. It is nice to see Gradius 5 and Einhander on there.

[MathU]

This is an absolute farce.

[BPzeBanshee]

This is an absolute farce.

[shadowbringer]

I'm disappointed with the results, immediately lost interest on the event..

[mjclark]

Space Invaders,Rez, Einhander, Gradius V all looking good for the money.
If this had been organised by the Shmupsonian American Art Museum there could have been room for ESPGaluda too but guess what? There wasn't

[TonK]

Kind of a bum list.

I wish only 25-45 year olds could vote.

This younger generation loves crap games.

[captpain]

As expected, a huge, ignorant pile of shit with no sense of subtlety or broader knowledge.

[Elixir]

Guys. Hey. Spy vs. Spy is art.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJC7DIP5JIw

Sonic Adventure is in there, but not Sonic 2 or 3.

Shadow of the Colossus but not ICO.

No Bomberman, Katamari, Jet Set Radio..

Then again, ESPGaluda is not art. If it had to be a Cave game, I would choose Guwange or Futari.

[captpain]

Five Zelda games.

[Rob]

Legend of Zelda is god.

Majora's Mask

Is not a great Zelda.

[Obiwanshinobi]

Super Star Wars has some nice spritework - slicker than anything Nintendo did on the SNES other than Yoshi's Island/Kirby's Dreamland 3.

Slick it may be, but marred by the poor character animation. That is quite an eyesore with such detailed, large sprites. This alone makes it less pleasing for the eye than Chelnov in my book. It's probably the reason why Super Star Wars is one of those SW games I should suck for, but somehow don't (the other two being Lego Star Wars and Republic Commando).
As for Nintendo, even their not-so-high-tech efforts (Super Mario World and LTTP) did better job at depicting playable characters.
Sure, the style is different, but if you are looking for a well animated character of realistic proportions based on a real person, Michael Jordan: Chaos in the Windy City for the SNES fits the bill.
Heck, even that Famicom-only Star Wars game by Namco looks less jarring to me. Not that animations in that one are great, but it doesn't have much slickness to make it all the more apparent.

[TrevHead (TVR)]

Ive just watched most of that vid which started off well, and dispite missing sonic 2 had some good games. When the vid got to the ps2 era ild say the winning titles took a massive nose dive with worst category been by far modern PC and the indie art game Flow (I may vomit) which relegated them to cannonfodder for Icycalm.

[TonK]

As expected, a huge, ignorant pile of shit with no sense of subtlety or broader knowledge.

Agreed.