Worlds best shmup player?

TarkanX · Post by **TarkanX** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:05 pm

I know the title is very subjective, although what I'm looking for are articles (old and present) of Japanese shmup players (and Western, too, if there are any) that detail their accomplishments in whatever game they played. I'm sure Gamest/Arcadia has some articles. Maybe some videos would help as well.

Examples of what I'm looking for (could be web or magazine based):

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1613 ... smlqy5.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/328/ ... andbn5.jpg

EinhanderZwei · Post by **EinhanderZwei** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:38 pm

Takahashi Meijin?

Treasurance · Post by **Treasurance** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:26 pm

No contest

harrihaffi · Post by **harrihaffi** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:33 pm

Hmm...is there a street fighter 2 of shmups? Seems like there are many great shmups but no AMAZING shmup... One game that everyone whould compete in...that whould draw attention and perhaps sharpen skills?

MVHH

Kollision · Post by **Kollision** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:39 pm

emphatic · Post by **emphatic** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:53 pm

Well, some people are just great by nature but doesn't have the time or willpower to train, and train for hours using SAVE STATES and all that other rubbish.

Bananamatic · Post by **Bananamatic** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:11 pm

harrihaffi wrote:AMAZING shmup

amazing shmup gameplay

moozooh · Post by **moozooh** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:10 pm

French documentary on shooting games contains an interview with SWY, who is widely considered one of the best shmup players in the world. There was also another interview with him that I've read recently, but I don't remember where. You may search for the words "gradius" and "NAI-san".

Other guys that may have articles written about them include GFA2-ISO, Clover-TAC, SOF-WTN, T3-CYR-WIZ, ZBL-NAI (the NAI-san referenced in the SWY interview), KDK-Takeyuki, possibly some others. There's also an interview with HFD somewhere on gamengai.com, I believe.

Frederik · Post by **Frederik** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:22 pm

moozooh wrote:French documentary on shooting games contains an interview with SWY, who is widely considered one of the best shmup players in the world. There was also another interview with him that I've read recently, but I don't remember where. You may search for the words "gradius" and "NAI-san".

Other guys that may have articles written about them include GFA2-ISO, Clover-TAC, SOF-WTN, T3-CYR-WIZ, ZBL-NAI (the NAI-san referenced in the SWY interview), KDK-Takeyuki, possibly some others. There's also an interview with HFD somewhere on gamengai.com, I believe.

Funny how it took so long for somebody to actually come up with a serious answer.

Not quite what you asked for, but here´s a very entertaining replay of Gunbird 2 by a guy called GOD HAND:
http://super-play.co.uk/index.php?superplay=416
Entertaining in the sense that Gunbird isn´t a game you usually play for score, but this guy still has the patience to pick
up the coins at max value while dodging everything that´s coming his way. The bullets in Psikyo games tend to be much faster than in your standard modern bullet hell shooter, which makes his movement even more stunning.

Oh, and your username made me think of this

z0mbie90 · Post by **z0mbie90** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:26 pm

Simple question.
The right answer is: ME

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Vyxx · Post by **Vyxx** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:07 pm

That guy who recently beat Daioujou Death Label on the PS2?

mesh control · Post by **mesh control** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:46 pm

No.

Probably one of theses fellers: http://cowboy.ikaruga.co.uk/bbs/viewtop ... 47&start=0

sikraiken · Post by **sikraiken** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:29 am

I would go with what moozooh said; all of those players not only hold records, but they hold records on a variety of shooting games.

Elixir · Post by **Elixir** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:58 am

I vote for Dame K.K.

harrihaffi wrote:Hmm...is there a street fighter 2 of shmups? Seems like there are many great shmups but no AMAZING shmup... One game that everyone whould compete in...that whould draw attention and perhaps sharpen skills?

MVHH

stop posting forever.

Van_Artic · Post by **Van_Artic** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:49 am

no Sinmoon? he's like the god of arrange modes/Black labels

most of the part i agree with the players stated by Elixir and moozooh

i also vote for KET and T3-Kamui

marus · Post by **marus** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:55 am

Some translated interviews that I know of:
Arcadia 2001 Interview With Yusemi-SWY
Interview With HFD (I think from the INH DDPDOJ Superplay)

A lot of top players also keep blogs, if you're interested in that as well.

BIL · Post by **BIL** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:58 am

I otherwise only know he was on the INH Ketsui DVD, but SYO will always have my admiration for his insane Dragon Blaze no-miss.

Kollision · Post by **Kollision** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:00 am

moozooh wrote:French documentary on shooting games

Awesome stuff, thanks for posting this!

third_strike · Post by **third_strike** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:44 am

I will go with god GFA2-ISO

linko9 · Post by **linko9** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:04 am

/\ this guy

For western shmuppers, that is. Seriously, look at what he's accomplished in so little time.

zlk · Post by **zlk** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:10 am

This is an impossible question. There are so many high level players in Japan. Also, some players refuse to submit their highest scores to arcadia. I am pretty surprised no one has mentioned LAOS-長田仙人 or KTL-NAL.

Even if you restricted the question to "Who is the best player of the donpachi series?" you would still have a hard time deciding who should hold that title:
Laos- held the record on dp, ddp, ddp2, ddp3 all when the games were very popular
BGR 44 - no missed donpachi, scored 2b on ddp3, current record holder in dp and ddp3
WTN - no missed donpachi, has current records on DP, DDP, DDP Campaign version
ISO - had records in ddp3 bl and holds records in ddp daif bl
NAI - won the ddp saturn competition, had records in dp and ddp, probably has the c ship record in ddp campaign version

NAL and HFD deserve mention as well but I don't know their histories on games they don't currently have records on.

toaplan_shmupfan · Post by **toaplan_shmupfan** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:42 am

harrihaffi wrote:Hmm...is there a street fighter 2 of shmups? Seems like there are many great shmups but no AMAZING shmup... One game that everyone whould compete in...that whould draw attention and perhaps sharpen skills?

MVHH

Twin Eagle II tried to be that (at least in terms of having some SFII style joystick motions for the special attacks).

drauch · Post by **drauch** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:50 am

Why are you on a shmups forum. Welcome to die.

Dale · Post by **Dale** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:50 am

DJ Incompetent no question. He's needs to post a picture of his trophy.

Sasupoika · Post by **Sasupoika** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:27 am

Probably SWY, Dame K.K., ISO or MON.
And as for western players? I think Sik is one of the very best.

gs68 · Post by **gs68** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:59 am

There is no answer. Given any superplayer, there's only so many shmups that they're proficient in--there will be shmups where, if you watched them play via captured video, you'd probably be forgiven for thinking they are new to the genre.

Every superplayer is great at some shmup or two or three, but no such player is good enough such that they cannot be eclipsed at any game.

harrihaffi · Post by **harrihaffi** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:43 pm

toaplan_shmupfan wrote:
harrihaffi wrote:Hmm...is there a street fighter 2 of shmups? Seems like there are many great shmups but no AMAZING shmup... One game that everyone whould compete in...that whould draw attention and perhaps sharpen skills?

MVHH
Twin Eagle II tried to be that (at least in terms of having some SFII style joystick motions for the special attacks).

Intresting! must learn more...

MVHH

Post by **Icarus** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:49 pm

No one mentioned Archer? His Ibara record alone deserves some recognition.
T3-KAMUI for the consistent destruction of Garegga with Gain, and both KET and DXP-Yoshidaya for ship versatility. Also, DAB.S and NER.

JoJo · Post by **JoJo** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:40 pm

I wonder if any of the big players have their scores on XBL leaderboards...

DJ Incompetent · Post by **DJ Incompetent** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:47 pm

Dale wrote:DJ Incompetent no question. He's needs to post a picture of his trophy.

Yer goddamn right I'm the best!!
http://www.arcade-renaissance.com/2007/ ... owned.html
http://www.gamesetwatch.com/2007/06/wor ... _offic.php

A theme song was written about me and everything.

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