Hacking is ruining Online Gaming on Console

[Shelcoof]

Everyone is fully aware that the PS3 has been fully compromised allowing for custom firmwares to be installed. I know Hacking has been a problem for PC gamers for a long time but now a current problem for Console Gamers that game on PSN or XBox Live is just getting way out of hand.

Lately hacking and cheating on popular games like Modern Warfare 2, Black Ops, Bad Company 2 are just going out of control. Almost every single game lately that I've been on had someone hacking or cheating.

I can understand people wanting to install custom programs on their PS3, Xbox 360, DS and so on but please do not ruin games for others.

I don't care what others do to their own consoles but please keep it to yourself. Honest Gamers who legally purchase games do not want to put up with this sort of crap.

With the news of the PS3 being hacked worries me as I really enjoy my PSN. I'm witnessing everything I loved about online go down the drain to hackers and cheating players.

I really don't know what the future holds for Online Console Gamers but I have a feeling things are going to get uglier as time goes by.

[neorichieb1971]

This post might reach 1 or 2 people out of millions which will eventually corrupt network gaming. I have never liked online competition so it doesn't bother me. But still.. I think people that hack stuff just ruin almost everything.

Just don't play online. If cheaters are online then its a complete waste of your time even loading the game up.

[drauch]

What kind of hacking/cheating are you talking about? I don't play online, but I am curious. Controller mods and the like?

[Pixel_Outlaw]

Good, hopefully it will return us to the dark ages of gaming where multiple people could play on one television and you actually had to have real friends.

[drunkninja24]

What kind of hacking/cheating are you talking about? I don't play online, but I am curious. Controller mods and the like?

Nah, PS3 just got totally buttfucked by hackers who can run custom code that appears to the console to be officially signed and everything. So insert cheating/hacking utilities for popular games, and grief to your hearts desire

[Dave_K.]

Play against only your friends online.

[neorichieb1971]

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/01/17/ps3-h ... y-ward-ca/

[Shelcoof]

What kind of hacking/cheating are you talking about? I don't play online, but I am curious. Controller mods and the like?

Nah, PS3 just got totally buttfucked by hackers who can run custom code that appears to the console to be officially signed and everything. So insert cheating/hacking utilities for popular games, and grief to your hearts desire

Pretty much anything you can think of for any game is what worries me.

Here is an example of how bad the hacks are for MW2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXJVe47pi3I

There is a ton of other BS all you have to do is use your imagination on how bad this is going to get for PSN and Xbox Live.

Play against only your friends online.

This sounds like a good solution but it takes the fun out of the whole online experience. Restricting yourself to only your friends gets boring quick. It's good to go online and meet other players of different skill level and play against them. When the cheating low lifes log on and decide to ruin your fun that's when things get ugly.

[Jeneki]

Oh goodie, I can't wait to get called a hacker by anyone I manage to beat in a game now, or anytime I unlock a difficult trophy.

[antares]

This thing was even on newspapers and non-gaming related sites, how can anyone not have heard of it?

[TVG]

I've been called a hacker a stit ton of time, to the point where I don't care anymore. Alot of other did too.

Frankly, I don't know how bad it is on MW2 because I don't play it, but most games I played, hacking was largely blown out of proportion. It's a fact that a large majority of the players don't care about cheating. The few that do are obvious so you just change servers or something. Then again as I said I don't play MW2, who knows.

[sven666]

Good, hopefully it will return us to the dark ages of gaming where multiple people could play on one television and you actually had to have real friends.

this please.

us people with real friends have been completely shafted this generation, hardly a single fucking game supports multiplayer these days, its all about sitting couped up all by your lonesome in your parents basement talking big to some douche on the other side of the world

wanted to buy a fun racing game for PS3 - couldnt find a single decent one that supports splitscreen!!??
wanted to play some FPS co-op campaigns - IF a game supports 2 players these days its all just a bunch of deathmatch bullshit!!

this generation of consoles sucks.

[kengou]

wanted to buy a fun racing game for PS3 - couldnt find a single decent one that supports splitscreen!!??

Motorstorm Pacific Rift my friend!

But yeah. The death of split-screen bothers me a lot as well.

[gundamalpha]

Online gaming itself is ruining console gaming for me, so it's all good.

[drauch]

This thing was even on newspapers and non-gaming related sites, how can anyone not have heard of it?

I don't read the newspaper. I don't play on Xbox live. I go to only like 10 different websites that could care less about the xbox 360.

[rancor]

I don't read the newspaper. I don't play on Xbox live. I go to only like 10 different websites that could care less about the xbox 360.

Get out of my head!! but seriously - I have no idea whats going on in the "gaming world". This site is the only contact I have with people that could give a rats ass about whats being played on a video screen. Anyhow, I think this is great news. Perhaps people will go back to "social gaming".
I have a friend back home in America that I sometimes talk to who is mildly into the online xbox games, and he complains that it's just gangs of 10 year olds with "bitch" this and "m0th3rfuck3r" that in their high-pitched, girly voices talkin' noise about how they're gonna come to your house and murder your family / rape the dog. Sounds like hell to me. Who would want to subject themselves to that? Nevermind actuall pay for it..

/oldman

[neorichieb1971]

Online gaming has too much freedom.

Voice chat should be disabled unless your friends are online. You shouldn't have to sit through bad language whilst playing games for any reason.

I guess its like everything though. You can buy a Rolls Royce but that doesn't stop there being holes in the road. You just have to be more selective who you play with.

I don't mind split screen games but the problem is the games are not well designed for it. The game may only look as good as it does because its 1p per screen. If you split it up 2/3 or 4 ways the game takes on a whole different feel.

Bomberman is a game which escapes all these problems, but on PSN it has one of its own, it crashes almost systematically. Sometimes on the menu screen . Online gaming is just riddled with problems. I did notice that Need 4 speed hot pursuit on PS3 actually works like a charm. My first good online experience.

[rancor]

Weren't there some Neo-Geo games that you could play on separate TVs with a friend? I seem to remember that if you had two of everything (TVs, systems, games) there were a few titles you could play with a friend in the same room (or however long the link cable was).. That would be cool. Can modern systems do that? That would have been wicked cool if Goldeneye on N64 could have done that back in the day.

[D]

Good, hopefully it will return us to the dark ages of gaming where multiple people could play on one television and you actually had to have real friends.

this please.

us people with real friends have been completely shafted this generation, hardly a single fucking game supports multiplayer these days, its all about sitting couped up all by your lonesome in your parents basement talking big to some douche on the other side of the world

wanted to buy a fun racing game for PS3 - couldnt find a single decent one that supports splitscreen!!??
wanted to play some FPS co-op campaigns - IF a game supports 2 players these days its all just a bunch of deathmatch bullshit!!

this generation of consoles sucks.

this

Weren't there some Neo-Geo games that you could play on separate TVs with a friend? I seem to remember that if you had two of everything (TVs, systems, games) there were a few titles you could play with a friend in the same room (or however long the link cable was).. That would be cool. Can modern systems do that? That would have been wicked cool if Goldeneye on N64 could have done that back in the day.

Yes, indeed a link cable. One day I want to have 2 ps2´s with battle gear 2 (My favorite game) and a link cable.

[Ex-Cyber]

I'm going to laugh my ass off when these guys come into PS3 forums whining about how they've been banned from PSN. I'm all for freedom to run stuff on your PS3 (still awaiting a solid CFW), but just like you own your PS3 and are entitled to determine its policy, Sony owns PSN and is entitled to determine its policy (within its obligations under the various TOS/user agreements, which I assume do not allow cheating). I can only hope they wield the banhammer more judiciously and effectively than they're trying to wield the law.

[neorichieb1971]

Sony PS3 was supposed to have 2 HDMI outputs for link up play. They lied.

The real issue now is if the investment to create online gaming is worth the hassle if its only T minus several hundred days until it gets ruined again.

[NzzpNzzp]

Huh, I always thought one of the advantages consoles had over PCs was that they didn't have anyone hacking. Now PC seems better off, at least it's got programs to ban cheaters.

Wonder if someone will develop a console version of punkbuster or VAC or something.

[Ruldra]

wanted to buy a fun racing game for PS3 - couldnt find a single decent one that supports splitscreen!!??
wanted to play some FPS co-op campaigns - IF a game supports 2 players these days its all just a bunch of deathmatch bullshit!!

I bought NFS Shift with the sole intention of playing splitscreen when friends come over. Only when they came and I couldn't find the splitscreen option in the menu I realized the game didn't support it. I was like "WTF how is this even possible? Every game before the PS3 supported it!"

While they're not FPS, Army of Two and its sequel was made entirely for splitscreen co-op though, so we're not totally out of options. Resident Evil 5 too.

Online gaming is just riddled with problems. I did notice that Need 4 speed hot pursuit on PS3 actually works like a charm. My first good online experience.

Dunno, I've been playing a lot online and I rarely had problems. MAG (first-person shooter) was pretty much lag-free and people used voice chat to share tactics and work together. Spelunker (PSN game) is incredible in multiplayer, both in splitscreen and online. No problems with SSF4 either. Overall I'm having a blast playing online on the PS3, very much unlike on the PC.

[sven666]

I bought NFS Shift with the sole intention of playing splitscreen when friends come over. Only when they came and I couldn't find the splitscreen option in the menu I realized the game didn't support it. I was like "WTF how is this even possible? Every game before the PS3 supported it!"

While they're not FPS, Army of Two and its sequel was made entirely for splitscreen co-op though, so we're not totally out of options. Resident Evil 5 too.

yeah imagine my surprise when i went down the local gameshop and flipped about a dozen racing games over and none had 1-2 player support PS2 had it on every damn game..

i actually ended up buying motorstorm pacific rift, fun game.. for an hour.. then tedious as hell once you learn how to abuse the game, also bought wipeout which also got damn tiresome a few hours in.
i thought army of two felt pretty weak the little i tried it, resident evil 5 was great tho (but wtf is up with the way they split the screen? ridiculous!?) couldnt imagine playing that game solo tho, that must really suck.

also bought a shitload of FPSes that promised 2 player support, modern warfare, quake, cod, resistance 1 & 2 etc etc.. none have any 2 player campaigns, just deathmatch crapola.

i think the most fun 2-player ive had with my PS3 was playing uncharted and simply passing the controller around with my buddies

[D]

Sonic All stars Racing can be fun when playing with youngsters. Up to 4 people can play via split screen.
Made by Sumo Digital. It´s like an F-Zero for children (girls as well)
2-4 player battles, missions for 1 player, we take turns.
I also hate that even if games have 2P-3P-4P modes, that the normal campaign, championship, license, career cannot be played with 2 players. devs really need to do this! awesomeness, hello!
Apparantly GT3 uses i.link and gt4 uses LAN to link machines! http://www.sim-racers.com/gt/How%20to%2 ... 20GT4.html
lan and ilink titles http://playstation2.onlineconsoles.com/ ... t_link.php
outrun lan on xbox and ps2! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3-MdhSlok0

[louisg]

I bought NFS Shift with the sole intention of playing splitscreen when friends come over. Only when they came and I couldn't find the splitscreen option in the menu I realized the game didn't support it. I was like "WTF how is this even possible? Every game before the PS3 supported it!"

While they're not FPS, Army of Two and its sequel was made entirely for splitscreen co-op though, so we're not totally out of options. Resident Evil 5 too.

yeah imagine my surprise when i went down the local gameshop and flipped about a dozen racing games over and none had 1-2 player support PS2 had it on every damn game..

I know, that really sucks. I even recently bought Unreal Tournament for Dreamcast and not computer because I wanted to play split screen with friends, sitting on the couch, watching the same screen. I used to do LAN play in the 90s, and imo it winds up being less personal than doing it Mario Kart style. Internet play is even worse: Why not just do AI bots at that point? All you need to do is make an AI bot that yells "fuckface!" and disconnects when you start beating it, and there, you've got the same experience.

BTW this is also the reason Doom on the 360 rocks

[undamned]

I'm pretty much a n00b to online play. I've played about 40 hours of Tetris Friends and about 20 on Super SFIV. I don't see much room for cheating in those games, but I could imagine myself stopping playing them altogether in the event that they became riddled w/ cheaters.
-ud

[greg]

Good, hopefully it will return us to the dark ages of gaming where multiple people could play on one television and you actually had to have real friends.

I totally agree. Either that or....

Play against only your friends online.

this.

[Acid King]

Agreed on the lack of split screen. I was pretty disappointed to find out that Gears of War 2 was limited to only 2 player for split screen Horde.

I'm going to laugh my ass off when these guys come into PS3 forums whining about how they've been banned from PSN. I'm all for freedom to run stuff on your PS3 (still awaiting a solid CFW), but just like you own your PS3 and are entitled to determine its policy, Sony owns PSN and is entitled to determine its policy (within its obligations under the various TOS/user agreements, which I assume do not allow cheating). I can only hope they wield the banhammer more judiciously and effectively than they're trying to wield the law.

This is one of the great advantages of PC gaming over consoles. When I played Counter Strike heavily I saw my share of cheaters (and was accused by others to be a cheater for that matter), but the decentralized nature of the multiplayer, particularly the ability to play on the same server all the time, made them easier to avoid and easier to punish. There were servers that allowed cheating and mods and kick/ban votes made them fairly easy to ditch when they appeared. With the number of players and games Sony and Microsoft have to cover to do a decent job of policing their online services, I seriously doubt that they could adequately crack down on cheating.

[moozooh]

The probability of cheating is much higher in games where the majority of playing populace is comprised of prepubescent boys who have some ego to cater to. I don't even see the pleasure of playing against some middleschoolers who can't appreciate the very act.